TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #27

[Stolly]

I have not seen too many cases when LE is guiding the family through an interview?

In the three part ane Valez-Mitchell interview, I heard many of the talking points emphasized by John Mehr, the TBI agent who we have seen in front of the camera the most. Clint said things along the lines of"...led me to believe he had a weapon and Holly was complying in fear for her life." That is very close to listening to John Mehr repeat himself.

If LE isn't chiming in on what to say, their terminology has certainly rubbed off on the family.

 

[Eileen730]

Yes, thanks Eileen for posting that interview again.

To be even more specific, Karen's timeline:

- Karen is at work at school. Secretary tells Karen neighbor called and said neighbor thought she heard screams coming from Bobo house.

- Karen called home (doesn't say whether she got Clint or not), then she made 911 call, left school for home with a friend and made another 911 call.

- Once Clint realized what was going on, he made the other 911 call.


It is also very interesting to hear that Clint thought the abductor sounded like a younger person.

He heard the voice why did he still say it WAS DREW? he knows drews voice!

 

[MysteryAddict]

From the Open Line tape, what I found to be new (a bombshell as NG would say) was
that the guy in camo had a youngish voice!

Well, that's new info isn't it?

When did Clint hear his voice and if he did, couldn't he tell whether it was Drew?

 

[Eileen730]

From the Open Line tape, what I found to be new (a bombshell as NG would say) was
that the guy in camo had a youngish voice!

Well, that's new info isn't it?

When did Clint hear his voice and if he did, couldn't he tell whether it was Drew?

They were in the garage! go listen to Jane Velez Mitchell interview first then the open line one.

and that was my question why didnt he know that was not drew he did hear the voice

 

[Stolly]

The blood, the voices and the screams confuse me.

1) If the perpetrator had a weapon that could make Holly comply with the kidnapper's orders because she was in fear for her life, why was she struck or cut, and left blood on the ground?

If someone pulls a knife on you and you don't comply, do they lightly cut you? And wouldn't you let out a yell or scream at that time? Or in the case of a gun, if the perpetrator struck Holly, one could safely assume that she would be sobbing and crying somewhat loudly at that time. You would think Clint would have heard that if that was the case.

Perhaps the best explanation is that she was tackled to the ground and silenced at first, then shown the weapon. During the scuffle she could have had a bloody nose.

But that doesn't even hold that much water. In the Openline interview, the host says Clint wasn't even suppose to have been at home. There was no need to worry about screaming right away (the nearest neighbor is a significant distance away) unless the perp knew Clint was at home, and one would think the Perp would have simply waited an extra day to carry out their plans.


2) In the Openline interview, the second part, Clint said the voice sounded younger. In the Jane Valez-Mitchell interview, Clint stated he really couldn't make out either voice. If he could make out that a voice sounded younger, how could he not hear screams that were heard by a neighbor? Perhaps the scream was from the woods but that doesn't sit right either.

The neighbor said they heard screams coming from the Bobo residence. If they originated from the woods, the perpetrator must have been walking in a line from the Bobo residence, to the neighbor's area. That isn't the best escape route for someone who planned this attack.

Anyone have any thought?

 

[Soul125]

The blood, the voices and the screams confuse me.

1) If the perpetrator had a weapon that could make Holly comply with the kidnapper's orders because she was in fear for her life, why was she struck or cut, and left blood on the ground?

If someone pulls a knife on you and you don't comply, do they lightly cut you? And wouldn't you let out a yell or scream at that time? Or in the case of a gun, if the perpetrator struck Holly, one could safely assume that she would be sobbing and crying somewhat loudly at that time. You would think Clint would have heard that if that was the case.

Perhaps the best explanation is that she was tackled to the ground and silenced at first, then shown the weapon. During the scuffle she could have had a bloody nose.

But that doesn't even hold that much water. In the Openline interview, the host says Clint wasn't even suppose to have been at home. There was no need to worry about screaming right away (the nearest neighbor is a significant distance away) unless the perp knew Clint was at home, and one would think the Perp would have simply waited an extra day to carry out their plans.


2) In the Openline interview, the second part, Clint said the voice sounded younger. In the Jane Valez-Mitchell interview, Clint stated he really couldn't make out either voice. If he could make out that a voice sounded younger, how could he not hear screams that were heard by a neighbor? Perhaps the scream was from the woods but that doesn't sit right either.

The neighbor said they heard screams coming from the Bobo residence. If they originated from the woods, the perpetrator must have been walking in a line from the Bobo residence, to the neighbor's area. That isn't the best escape route for someone who planned this attack.

Anyone have any thought?

The neighbor hearing the screams is what confused me also. If the neighbor could hear screams, how could Clint not hear them. I guess they could have been some distance away from the Bobo residence and much closer to the neighbor's house. That is all I can think of.

 

[Eileen730]

The blood, the voices and the screams confuse me.

1) If the perpetrator had a weapon that could make Holly comply with the kidnapper's orders because she was in fear for her life, why was she struck or cut, and left blood on the ground?

If someone pulls a knife on you and you don't comply, do they lightly cut you? And wouldn't you let out a yell or scream at that time? Or in the case of a gun, if the perpetrator struck Holly, one could safely assume that she would be sobbing and crying somewhat loudly at that time. You would think Clint would have heard that if that was the case.

Perhaps the best explanation is that she was tackled to the ground and silenced at first, then shown the weapon. During the scuffle she could have had a bloody nose.

But that doesn't even hold that much water. In the Openline interview, the host says Clint wasn't even suppose to have been at home. There was no need to worry about screaming right away (the nearest neighbor is a significant distance away) unless the perp knew Clint was at home, and one would think the Perp would have simply waited an extra day to carry out their plans.


2) In the Openline interview, the second part, Clint said the voice sounded younger. In the Jane Valez-Mitchell interview, Clint stated he really couldn't make out either voice. If he could make out that a voice sounded younger, how could he not hear screams that were heard by a neighbor? Perhaps the scream was from the woods but that doesn't sit right either.

The neighbor said they heard screams coming from the Bobo residence. If they originated from the woods, the perpetrator must have been walking in a line from the Bobo residence, to the neighbor's area. That isn't the best escape route for someone who planned this attack.

Anyone have any thought?

I am as perplexed s you!

 

[Whisperer]

Why do parents of a missing person need an attorney? These are all educated people. The fact that they trip themselves up have nothing to do with being nervous. Yes, they are nervous and I bet other people who have been interviewed are also but as far as getting mixed up, there is something else going here.

Another Attorney? All he/she would do is tell them to not say a word. We all know how that works and what it does for a case. We have seen actual perps never be questioned or apprehended, thanks to attorneys. If LE doesn't find the body, and they have an attorney; case closed.

If the Bobos have nothing to do with the disappearance of Holly, I vote no for an attorney. They have a spokesman right now and from what I have seen, he functions and acts like an attorney. Somebody needs to talk to Clint and define what he means when he speaks of that morning. He appears to want to describe his thoughts of what happened with the actual reality of what happened and the facts are jumbled.

 

[Whisperer]

At this point, I'm not buying the scream, unless I hear the neighbor telling the story. The non-release of the 911 calls is highly suspicious.

What would really make sense is that Clint heard the screams and called his mother...now, that I could buy. If the neighbor was close enough to hear the screams, the neighbor may have seen something.
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[R.U.Kidding!]

The blood, the voices and the screams confuse me.

1) If the perpetrator had a weapon that could make Holly comply with the kidnapper's orders because she was in fear for her life, why was she struck or cut, and left blood on the ground?

If someone pulls a knife on you and you don't comply, do they lightly cut you? And wouldn't you let out a yell or scream at that time? Or in the case of a gun, if the perpetrator struck Holly, one could safely assume that she would be sobbing and crying somewhat loudly at that time. You would think Clint would have heard that if that was the case.

Perhaps the best explanation is that she was tackled to the ground and silenced at first, then shown the weapon. During the scuffle she could have had a bloody nose.

But that doesn't even hold that much water. In the Openline interview, the host says Clint wasn't even suppose to have been at home. There was no need to worry about screaming right away (the nearest neighbor is a significant distance away) unless the perp knew Clint was at home, and one would think the Perp would have simply waited an extra day to carry out their plans.


2) In the Openline interview, the second part, Clint said the voice sounded younger. In the Jane Valez-Mitchell interview, Clint stated he really couldn't make out either voice. If he could make out that a voice sounded younger, how could he not hear screams that were heard by a neighbor? Perhaps the scream was from the woods but that doesn't sit right either.

[ The neighbor said they heard screams coming from the Bobo residence. If they originated from the woods, the perpetrator must have been walking in a line from the Bobo residence, to the neighbor's area. That isn't the best escape route for someone who planned this attack.

Anyone have any thought?]

Well the scream has really bothered me.
Does anyone know the distance between the neighbors house and the Bobo house???? From the photos it sure can't be that close.
How does a neighbor hear a scream and not Clint? It has to occur close to the Bobo home, because that scream begins the timeline phone call to her mother. Shortly thereafter Clint sees them heading into the woods.

The duct tape did have blond hair attached, but don't know if it was Holly's.
How does someone come up to a young women in the middle of no where (it's not like you couldn't see someone coming) unless they were there already hiding close to the home for ambush.
Also Clint said he went straight into the woods looking for Holly right after he saw them enter.....nothing, gone.....that fast. :waitasec:

 

[JeannieC]

The blood, the voices and the screams confuse me.


If someone pulls a knife on you and you don't comply, do they lightly cut you? Anyone have any thought?

Yes, he might have cut her. Just enough to terrorize her, control her. A torture cut. He didn't want to leave a blood trail. He would have cut her in a place where her clothing would absorb the blood. It wouldn't be a deep cut. More of a slice.

Putting enough fear into her to do whatever he wanted her to do. He might have had the knife at her throat when CB looked out or at her chest.

The perp wouldn't want to have to carry her away, he wanted her to walk. She probably broke away from him for a moment or he let the knife down when they started walking and she screamed.

I know there are some who will argue this point but I know this is done.

 

[Whisperer]

If there were flecks of blood on the grass, that isn't exactly somebody dripping from a bloody nose. It would indicate splatter. LE, I believe, used the term "flecks of blood".

 

[Whisperer]

I can understand the neighbor hearing a gun shot but a scream from afar? Doubt it.

Didn't Clint say it sounded like they were arguing?

 

[Whisperer]

LE didn't want the public to know it was Holly's blood...you have to wonder why not?

LE doesn't want the public to hear the 911 call...you have to wonder why not...

If they don't want the public's help in finding the guy, they most likely know who it is.

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

I know Attorneys give the impression of guilt also, but I just can't help but feel they need some outside guidance, and if their spokesperson is that pastor, and he is also an attorney....EH----just interview him rather than the family. To me it's an accident waiting to happen.

 

[JeannieC]

LE didn't want the public to know it was Holly's blood...you have to wonder why not?

LE doesn't want the public to hear the 911 call...you have to wonder why not...

If they don't want the public's help in finding the guy, they most likely know who it is.

I must have missed it. Who said LE didn't want the family to know it was Holly's blood? I thought they didn't say yea or nay until the test results returned.

How are the 911 calls going to help the public identify the perp or find Holly?

I don't see either of these as evidence that LE doesn't want the public's help. They do want good tips if anyone knows something that can help. They don't need us to solve it just to keep our eyes and ears open.

jmo

 

[Soul125]

Well the scream has really bothered me.
Does anyone know the distance between the neighbors house and the Bobo house???? From the photos it sure can't be that close.
How does a neighbor hear a scream and not Clint? It has to occur close to the Bobo home, because that scream begins the timeline phone call to her mother. Shortly thereafter Clint sees them heading into the woods.

The duct tape did have blond hair attached, but don't know if it was Holly's.
How does someone come up to a young women in the middle of no where (it's not like you couldn't see someone coming) unless they were there already hiding close to the home for ambush.
Also Clint said he went straight into the woods looking for Holly right after he saw them enter.....nothing, gone.....that fast. :waitasec:

It looks like the neighbors are fairly close, not even a 1/4 mile away. Not sure which one reported the screams though.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=...217,-88.175486&spn=0.007617,0.013057&t=h&z=17

 

[Whisperer]

LE never released the info about Holly's blood...Dana did. After he did, that pastor stepped in and we didn't see Dana after that.

This spokesman has consistently evaded questions and speaks like an attorney. Maybe it is him that makes the family nervous when answering questions from media. Why is he so involved anyway. They are all educated and able to answer. I think he may make them uncomfortable. I have seen other interviews where he won't give out a single piece of info nor does he speak for the family. He is speaking for somebody and it isn't the family. I bet he was the one who made Dana step down when JVM interviewed him.

How long have they known this guy? He has a VERY strong personality.

 

[Whisperer]

I must have missed it. Who said LE didn't want the family to know it was Holly's blood? I thought they didn't say yea or nay until the test results returned.

How are the 911 calls going to help the public identify the perp or find Holly?

I don't see either of these as evidence that LE doesn't want the public's help. They do want good tips if anyone knows something that can help. They don't need us to solve it just to keep our eyes and ears open.

jmo

Yeah, okay..

 

[Whisperer]

I know Attorneys give the impression of guilt also, but I just can't help but feel they need some outside guidance, and if their spokesperson is that pastor, and he is also an attorney....EH----just interview him rather than the family. To me it's an accident waiting to happen.

:seeya:
I hear ya! Something about this guy doesn't sit right with me. He isn't a good spokesman. He behaves like a Defense Attorney...he doesn't want them speaking. I am thinking that he is controlling them.