TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #27

[Whisperer]

Has everyone seen the classes he has at his church for his followers? Very interesting wording on finding people who have strayed.

 

[x_files]

LE didn't want the public to know it was Holly's blood...you have to wonder why not?

LE doesn't want the public to hear the 911 call...you have to wonder why not...

If they don't want the public's help in finding the guy, they most likely know who it is.

Have you guys ever come across a case like this before? I a racking my mind and nothing is coming to my ind. Why the secrets seems so odd to me.

 

[x_files]

Has everyone seen the classes he has at his church for his followers? Very interesting wording on finding people who have strayed.

Any links? This guy has me intrigued now.

 

[goldiegirl]

Why hasnt a sar team been brought in?
Tim Miller

I agree. I love the work that TES does, but I wish they would have been brought in earlier! Still, better late than never. Someone needs to call him.

About the spokespersons and interviews, what I think this family really needs is a plan when they go on air, and it appears that a different spokesperson would be helpful in coming up with one. The difference I see between the Bobos' interviews and interviews done by some others, like Beth Holloway, is that others seem to go on air with something they want to get across, while the Bobos aren't sure what they're doing there and let the interviewer control the segment.

It's almost become unproductive and pointless at this point to have them go on the air, and it was especially unproductive to have Kevin Bromley on NG in the beginning. As others have mentioned, he answered NO questions at all and gave no information. That's all fine if there's a reason for that, but then why go on air in the first place?

I think, and this is JMO, of course, that next time the family plans an appearance, they need to come up with a plan for what they're trying to accomplish. Maybe they could come up with some specific action steps they'd like to see happen or see LE or the public take to help find her. At the very least, maybe they could give us a web address for where we can find flyers to print (I know most of us here have them, but many TV viewers probably don't), or at least have SOMETHING to say so they are prepared and so they make the most of their air time.

If the family doesn't want to answer questions or can't answer questions, I understand that, but if they are going to keep making appearances, they need to give the interviewer something else to work with or Q&A is just about all there is to do. I know not all families are media savvy, and if I ever faced this situation God knows I'd have no clue what to say, so I'm not criticizing the family at all, just saying that I think it would benefit the search for Holly if they had some direction and used their time to push for whatever they'd like to see accomplished.

 

[Whisperer]

I read that Pastor Keven Bromley is a self-appointed spokes person for the family. He has a very strong personality and reveals nothing. Like I said, I am beginning to think that this guy is controlling the family. They appeared very nervous on JVM...unusually so.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

The fact that someone is nervous on TV is probably not a big clue or indicator of anything.

Anyone involved in a criminal case SHOULD have a lawyer, too. If you are involved in something that includes polygraph tests, searches of your property, possible seizure of your computers, cars, phones, various personal records, etc. then you are foolish not to have one for your own protection. It isn't an indicator of guilt as long as you are cooperating with LE; but rather a means of legal protection from overzealous cops.

 

[Oriah]

Does anyone know if 275 Swan Johnson was vacant at the time of Holly's kidnapping? TIA.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Okay, I noticed something interesting last night...

I was out playing tennis... there is a large, open, field between the courts and the houses. In a driveway about 150 yards away (no more than that) were some teenage girls and their b/f's; and the girls let out a few LOUD screams. Not just yelling but a couple good, strong, screams. Yes I heard them BUT actually it was the guys blaring their car horns that got my attention. The screams were clear if you stopped and listened, but if the car horns hadnt been blasting, I may have not tuned in to the screams becuase I was playing tennis and concentrating. And these girls were not that far away. Just the length of a soccer field.. It seemed like being able to see the girls made the sound louder too. You could focus in on it.

If I had been indoors there is no way I would have heard the screams even with the girls being in my line of sight.

If you have ever heard something like a Gibbon make its loud calls... that just has such a different, deeper, throaty tone that will carry for miles. It doesnt come from the lungs either but from some throat pouch. Im not so sure a human scream would carry that far and that if a neighbor some distance away heard screams the neighbor would have had to have been close to the source.

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

It looks like the neighbors are fairly close, not even a 1/4 mile away. Not sure which one reported the screams though.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=...217,-88.175486&spn=0.007617,0.013057&t=h&z=17

Thank you Soul125,

That is a great map of the area. Anyone needing a reference point of the entire surrounding area might find this very useful.

You are right the neighbor is much closer than I would have thought. There are also 2 other neighbors close by, wonder if they heard anything (although may have been at work).
With that much open land sound would carry---Clint should of heard a scream also, don't you think? Can not figure that one out.


----Sorry, Carla , must have been typing while you were commenting.
That's a possibility.

 

[mountainguy777]

You don't just casually walk with someone who made you bleed. Maybe the blood is unrelated to the specific incident. Maybe she cut her finger in the garage in the days leading up to abduction day. Do we know if the blood was old or fresh? Maybe she decided she didn't want to go into the woods and battled to go back to the house and was struck, bled, and screamed as she was being forced into a car.

 

[concentric]

You don't just casually walk with someone who made you bleed. Maybe the blood is unrelated to the specific incident. Maybe she cut her finger in the garage in the days leading up to abduction day. Do we know if the blood was old or fresh? Maybe she decided she didn't want to go into the woods and battled to go back to the house and was struck, bled, and screamed as she was being forced into a car.

Sorry, I disagree with you. From studying other cases and from personal experience, if a man threatens you with death if you react, especially if he has a weapon on you, you might just walk calmly.

That weapon could have been held so closely to her, out of sight of any onlookers, that it appeared that he didn't have one.

 

[BeanE]

You don't just casually walk with someone who made you bleed. Maybe the blood is unrelated to the specific incident. Maybe she cut her finger in the garage in the days leading up to abduction day. Do we know if the blood was old or fresh? Maybe she decided she didn't want to go into the woods and battled to go back to the house and was struck, bled, and screamed as she was being forced into a car.

Someone who is stunned, traumatized, shocked, terrified, may appear, when seen from the back, to be walking casually.

 

[Mendara]

It looks like the neighbors are fairly close, not even a 1/4 mile away. Not sure which one reported the screams though.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=...217,-88.175486&spn=0.007617,0.013057&t=h&z=17

Wow that is a lot of woods!! Seems to me Clint's story is not possible unless the perp has a secret hideaway in the woods or was on an ATV. No way can he drag a struggling girl through the woods fast enough to avoid her brother chasing behind and without leaving a trail. At the very least Clint following behind would have heard something or seen the trail they were leaving as they struggle through the woods. Even with a knife to my throat or a gun to my head there would have been sobbing, dragging feet, threats being made and the walk OUT OF THOSE WOODs would have taken a while.

This perp would have had to know this house, that she was there and had a quick getaway plan.

He would have to be an neighbor or someone who frequents that area in order for Clint's story to be true.

MO

 

[cocomod]

The 911 calls not being released is not a big red flag to me. As stated previously, there is a new law that was recently passed in TN banning the release of any 911 calls to the media.

The scream is a bit baffling.
However, could Clint have been in the shower when the scream occurred? Is this why he did not hear the scream?
Could the scream have happened several minutes AFTER Clint saw Holly walking into the woods (so she was away from her home)?
Was the neighbor outside watering her garden or something; and therefore, she heard the scream - while Clint was inside so he did not hear the scream?

To me, again, there are many plausible explanantions regarding the scream.

 

[concentric]

BeanE, this is a bit off topic, but I was thinking about that trio of siblings from FL who had an underground bunker and were driving to neighboring states, like Georgia, robbing banks, etc. Then, they end up being caught way the heck over in Colorado???

So, my thoughts naturally went to the that guy who claimed he was abducted near the Smokey Mountains National Park by 3 people. Then he denied it. And we haven't heard anything since.

Amazing how fugitives can move from one state way over on one side of the country, and move to another side of the country so easily.

 

[mountainguy777]

Sorry, I disagree with you. From studying other cases and from personal experience, if a man threatens you with death if you react, especially if he has a weapon on you, you might just walk calmly.

That weapon could have been held so closely to her, out of sight of any onlookers, that it appeared that he didn't have one.

I don't buy it. If someone is stunned, shocked, or threatened, that's exactly how they would walk. People tend to shorten their steps in fear, and increase their strides when relaxed. Moo

 

[concentric]

I don't buy it. If someone is stunned, shocked, or threatened, that's exactly how they would walk. People tend to shorten their steps in fear, and increase their strides when relaxed. Moo

So, do you think she went with someone willingly, someone she knew?

 

[Prancy]

Does anyone know if the brother said his sister and the abductor walked away on the driveway or on the yard area?

In looking at the photo of the house and yard area, it would appear that leaving the area near the house would have been fastest if they walked on the paved drive. That paved drive, which is rather long, goes to the road. I'm trying to envision WHICH area they walked towards. IF they walked on the driveway, then it would be logical to say they were walking towards the road and not towards the woods. The woods are on the other side of the road, but you would have to cross the road to get to those woods. Why would an abductor walk over the roadway, that he could use for escape and into a wooded area that would slow him down? And how would brother be able to predict whether the abductor would cross the road and walk into the woods, as opposed to getting into a vehicle. It appears the road is barely visible from the Bobo's house.

 

[JeannieC]

You don't just casually walk with someone who made you bleed. Maybe the blood is unrelated to the specific incident. Maybe she cut her finger in the garage in the days leading up to abduction day. Do we know if the blood was old or fresh? Maybe she decided she didn't want to go into the woods and battled to go back to the house and was struck, bled, and screamed as she was being forced into a car.

I asked the same question about the blood. It was fresh blood. I wonder if they found blood on her lunchpack.

Do we know that she casually walked into the woods? Her brother thought it was her boyfriend. Maybe because the perp had his arm around her. Her brother saw them walking into the wood, from behind.

 

[Mendara]

She was abducted from the carport of the house at 7:30AM while she was on her way to classes. I would like to know what direction they walked in as well. It seems that it was all planned since the perp was up early and in camo gear.

Perhaps he surprised her in the carport, she could have fallen and scrapped her knee or something in a struggle, could explain the blood. However, he wasn't wearing a mask, Clint says he saw them from behind and thought it was her boyfriend and only when he went out to carport himself and saw blood did he realize it may nothave been. So it must have been fresh blood and enough to make him think it wasn't her boyfriend.

Where was her boyfriend? Has he spoken?

There is no way this was some random passerby. This had to me someone who knew her or knew of her. ABSOLUTELY. mo