TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #28

[JeannieC]

:seeya: if that altercation happened anywhere but parsons, tn, that pastor would be in deep doodoo. I know what you mean by gun-shy, Jeannie.

From what I have uncovered the church and LE walk hand in hand. The death of this man needs investigation. But who would do it? I don't think Parsons LE will, since some are pastors themselves. This is a slippery slope they walk...but because it is a small rural area, it never reaches large media. Almost anywhere else, it would receive attention.

I dpn't think the lack of info is from inept reporters. I think it is from the people in the town who control the lives of everyone around them...that would be the pastors and the Sheriffs.

It is a strange thing but maybe its true. I guess I'm not totally suspicious of people. Concrete is pretty hard and if he was pushed hard enough he could die from it.

I saw a woman fall down 3 steps and hit her head on a wall. She died. It was awful. Not a hard fall. She was stepping down and tripped. If no one had seen it people might have thought she was pushed or something. I couldn't believe it and I actually saw it happen.

 

[Whisperer]

Why was he pushed? I bet that is the interesting part. You are kind. I am cynical and suspicious. I will have a dozen questions when a crime occurs. My guess is he was pushed or hit real hard.

There is more to the story of the father of the bride. It has most likely been hushed. My point is that the pastors/sheriffs control the town and its people. That is the problem.

I get the same impression with the Bobos. They appeared scared to talk. I would venture to say that the sheriff/pastors have a pretty good idea and know what happened to Holly.

 

[JeannieC]

Why was he pushed? I bet that is the interesting part. You are kind. I am cynical and suspicious. I will have a dozen questions when a crime occurs. My guess is he was pushed or hit real hard.

There is more to the story of the father of the bride. It has most likely been hushed. My point is that the pastors/sheriffs control the town and its people. That is the problem.

I get the same impression with the Bobos. They appeared scared to talk. I would venture to say that the sheriff/pastors have a pretty good idea and know what happened to Holly.

I do believe someone knows. I don't know who but someone in that town. The thing I find strange is that DB doesn't do any interviews. Maybe he is working and can't it just seems strange that you never hear from him.

Since he is the only one working he might be having to put in a lot more hours to make ends meet.

It is just so sad and getting colder everyday. For some reason, I just believe she is alive. I don't feel that with other cases but I do with this one. Maybe its just hoping.

 

[Oriah]

I realized that, as I saw many wearing it. I would expect them to be wearing it going on a search in that dense area. However, socially, and in her family and friends PICS, he is wearing camo an awful lot. He is the one that Clint mentioned he thought he saw. If all of them wore camo all the time, I doubt he would assume it was Drew that quickly.

Is it now being reported as fact that there were no blood specks on the lawn?

BBM:
Actually it's the reverse. It's not really safe to go on a ground search wearing camo, especially during hunting season. They really should all be wearing safety vests or flags in orange or yellow. But that was a heavily community based search, I believe- and many in the community wear camo regularly.
It does not strike me as odd at all.

And fwiw- I don't think it was the camo that made CB think it was Drew. I also don't think it's odd that CB is in camo in many pictures.

 

[Whisperer]

The only time I saw people in camo was when I worked on a military base. Maybe I should bail on this because I have no understanding of this crowd in Western TN.

From what the reports say, some camo guy took Holly in the early morning. He was dressed in camo...from head to toe. Her BF says nothing and talks to no one. We have no info on his or holly's routine the night before of morning of. We have Karen saying she talked to him very early morning. May I ask why? We have Holly up at 4:30am.

I am going to assume she was drinking coke for the caffeine to stay awake. Was drew there that morning? Did he see Holly before she left? Where is this guy and why isn't he talking? How many of these people lined up for polys? Pretty difficult to eliminate anyone if the town cops don't say anything.

Since they won't talk and since no one is scared (if scared, they would be yelling at LE), it is somebody known to Holly who took her. That's the way I look at it. Even if this town is different from large cities, their fear should be raw if this were a stranger abduction.

 

[stilettos]

The camo is not unusual...here in the NGA Mtns nor in WTN...from teens all the way to elderly men...those who hunt wear them, they are comfy and it is common. I happen to own a pair of fuschi camo pants that made their debut in tree stand one cold early morning. The men laughed and said i would run off the deer....one six point buck later, they stopped laughing. You would have to live in the rural south to understand how common it would be to see a man in camo. JMO

 

[~n/t~]

Are there different types of camo wear? Colours, etc? For whatever is being hunted? Is it different for turkey versus deer, as an example? Or is it all the same colour?

City girl here. I never met a turkey except at the frozen section at the local grocery store. He didn't look harmful so took him home.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

A group of turkeys is called a rafter.

http://home.comcast.net/~ray.ammerman/groups.html

Wild Turkeys can be vicious. They are very large and will go after you. Back east when I was working for a City we laughed until we cried when a local cop tried to put 2 wild turkeys in his cruiser to relocate them. They were going after pedestrians and he was trying to move them. He went to the hospital with many bites. They(the turkeys) then attacked his police car. :lol: :lol:

I was on a trail out in Hillsborough River State Park... I had been watching some baby armadillos digging around in the leaves and underbrush. I heard a rustling in a palmetto bush and went over to see. I figured it was more armadillos... As I leaned over the bush and pulled the fronds aside... A GIANT TURKEY FLEW OUT AT ME

Scared the crap out of me. I think I screamed, ran about 20 feet and fainted when I turned around and saw him flapping around gobbling.

Horrible. I hate turkeys.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Are there different types of camo wear? Colours, etc? For whatever is being hunted? Is it different for turkey versus deer, as an example? Or is it all the same colour?

City girl here. I never met a turkey except at the frozen section at the local grocery store. He didn't look harmful so took him home.

There was a big discussion here before. Aparently there is a camo pattern and style used for Turkey hunting. If you google Turkey camouflage etc you can find it.

 

[TxLady2]

I live in a rural area and a lot of people hunt here, but we just don't see that many guys wearing full camo gear. Any time I've seen a guy wearing a full camo outfit, he's with the National Guard or Army Reserves.

 

[~n/t~]

There was a big discussion here before. Aparently there is a camo pattern and style used for Turkey hunting. If you google Turkey camouflage etc you can find it.

So was the perp wearing turkey camo or typical camo that you see everyone wearing as fashion?

 

[~n/t~]

FWIW....I googled turkey camo and deer camo and they look the same to me.

 

[Trident]

Seems to me we have a militia in the area, a religious cult, or drug afficianadoes. If, in such a small town, people seems reluctant to talk (reminds me a bit of the Horman case), there is a good reason. Fear is a real good reason in my opinion.

I wonder how closely related the people are in this neck of the woods.

My opinion only

 

[JeannieC]

So was the perp wearing turkey camo or typical camo that you see everyone wearing as fashion?

I think people are confusing camo for hunting with military camo. A lot of guys wear the military camo. They can buy it at Old Navy and other places. They think the pants are comfy.

I've never seen anyone in full hunting camo. I've seen it in stores but never seen anyone wearing it.

 

[Oriah]

I think people may be confusing military issued gear with commercially available gear. And many military augment their gear with commercially purchased gear, to further the confusion.

Many hunters (and others) purchase commercial camo. But you can't get issued certain types of gear, unless in the military (of whatever branch.)

I wonder if that has been looked into- especially since there are many different varieties of 'packs' issued, depending upon deployment.

 

[Hippy Chick]

I live in rural Missouri and camo is a common thing especially during any hunting season. Deer season they wear camo only with a blaze orange hat and vest. My sister turkey hunts and her husband owns a archery business I will call and ask them the difference in the camo I know there are different patterns for different hunting seasons

 

[cluciano63]

Seeing how we don't know what kind of "camo" Clint saw, I am not sure why this discussion on various type is crucial...granted, we would like to know if the man's head was covered, but chances are we won't learn that. I wonder, if his head WAS covered, did Drew often cover his head? Was his head covered in the various "camo" photos of him? Or did Clint just assume it was Drew because he was with Holly, not because the man looked like Drew?

 

[Hippy Chick]

My sis says go to Cabela's.com and you can see all the different camo for different hunting seasons.

 

[Darcyline]

I have never understood why camo was such a sticking point or oddity in this case for some and then that makes me feel like I have been in the country too long lol. I remember when people were upset that people wore camo to the search parties because it was offensive or something when most of their outfits probably revolve around some sort of camo-wear. It would be like saying it is offensive to wear jeans or offensive to wear a white tshirt.

It would be interesting to know if it was a certain type of camo, but I am assuming it was just normal hunting camo that several hunters in the area would wear since he immediately assumed it was her boyfriend hunting. That, or very close to it.

 

[CocoChanel]

Seems to me we have a militia in the area, a religious cult, or drug afficianadoes. If, in such a small town, people seems reluctant to talk (reminds me a bit of the Horman case), there is a good reason. Fear is a real good reason in my opinion.

I wonder how closely related the people are in this neck of the woods.

My opinion only

BBM
YES! This is what I have been thinking for some time now, and would account for many of the weird aspects of this case IMHO!