TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden; believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #33

[imamaze]

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Ima

 

[dejavoodoo64]

I find it odd that Lauren Spierer's reward was raised to the same amount close to the same time as Holly's. I also have found it strange that there is a small municipal airport that doesn't undergo custom inspections that is getting regular flights from a small municipal airport in Venice FL. If you google that airport in FL, you will find some mighty interesting things. I believe there is way more to this than meets the eye, and if you look into the history of the area with the major drug trafficking involved, it isn't a far leap to say that the major players might be trading women for drugs. Check out Huffman aviation Venice FL, and your heart might just skip a beat. Mine did. There are way too many questions and no answers whatsoever. Also, check out a story about Al Gore and Whit Lafon and how the investigations into the drug trafficking were stopped. Take a look at the names in the TBI that were mentioned in the article by World Net Daily, and notice the ones that are still serving in high positions. Also notice the sitting judges still in the area to this day. I am from this area of TN, and I can tell you that the corruption is only getting worse, not better. Holly's abduction has shined light in many dark places, and the citizens of West Tennessee will not let it go, much to the dismay of many.

Oh I'm sure the corruption is bad and I don't doubt that women may be traded for drugs. I will check out the airport as well as the aviation company. I remember both of them being mentioned early on in the investigation. And I mean no offense, but I do not consider World Net Daily to be a reputable source for anything. Most places I visit ridicule it if anything. JMO

 

[MizStery]

I find it odd that Lauren Spierer's reward was raised to the same amount close to the same time as Holly's. I also have found it strange that there is a small municipal airport that doesn't undergo custom inspections that is getting regular flights from a small municipal airport in Venice FL. If you google that airport in FL, you will find some mighty interesting things. I believe there is way more to this than meets the eye, and if you look into the history of the area with the major drug trafficking involved, it isn't a far leap to say that the major players might be trading women for drugs. Check out Huffman aviation Venice FL, and your heart might just skip a beat. Mine did. There are way too many questions and no answers whatsoever. Also, check out a story about Al Gore and Whit Lafon and how the investigations into the drug trafficking were stopped. Take a look at the names in the TBI that were mentioned in the article by World Net Daily, and notice the ones that are still serving in high positions. Also notice the sitting judges still in the area to this
day. I am from this area of TN, and I can tell you that the corruption is only getting worse, not better. Holly's abduction has shined light in many dark places, and the citizens of West Tennessee will not let it go, much to the dismay of many.

Your correct,some in politics some call it lobbying,others call it something much more sinister.

Since your on the ground in west Tennessee ...it sounds like you know the
demographics. If there is something nefarious ...well let's just say ...when the lights are turned on ....you find more than one cockroach.MOO

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Yeah most crimes, but I don't think this falls into that category. If indeed this was some country bumpkin that took Holly I believe it would be solved by now. To get away in the short amount of time that has been reported and be a local is unfathomable to me. Someone would have noticed the abductor not at work or acting strangely after her abduction. Of course it could of been someone off the grid so to speak, but I would think they have been checked out by now. And someone her age such as old boyfriends. I can't see a kid pulling this off by themselves and keep it quiet. Yes we may be simple minded creatures, but some of us can be very creative in attaining that which we desire. Even if it takes years sometimes.

/And I can call them country bumpkins cause I live here.

Yes but bumpkins can pull off crimes because they live with a bunch of bumpkins. Look at Ed Gein... I think in this case it can very well be a sort of "perfect storm" type of situation where the two of the three people involved did, perhaps, the exact opposite of what you or I would do.

1) Clint heard strange voices outside and didn't do anything (much).

2) Clint saw people in his garage but didn't investigate. Instead he called his mom.

3) After Clint had talked to his mom, he saw the suspect and his sister walking around in the yard. He didn't do anything.

4) At some point supposedly he (may have) gotten a gun and went outside but then decided not to pursue the suspect and his sister.

Now if I heard people in my yard I would look and see who it was. If I heard people in my garage I would look and see who they were. If I was not sure I would certainly find out who... and if it was someone I knew I would say SOMETHING. Even if it was just oh hey, what are you two doing here?... IF I called my mom and she told me no it wasn't my sister I would certainly jump into action by then. If I saw my sister wandering off with a stranger AFTER someone told me she should be at school and after I had heard strange voices and seen unknown people in my garage, I certainly would have done something (more). I think, honestly, 95% of the population would do something (more).

The suspect was super lucky. Plain and simple. He had some sort of plan, and, fortunately, nothing much interfered with it.

 

[dejavoodoo64]

Yes but bumpkins can pull off crimes because they live with a bunch of bumpkins. Look at Ed Gein... I think in this case it can very well be a sort of "perfect storm" type of situation where the two of the three people involved did, perhaps, the exact opposite of what you or I would do.

1) Clint heard strange voices outside and didn't do anything (much).

2) Clint saw people in his garage but didn't investigate. Instead he called his mom.

3) After Clint had talked to his mom, he saw the suspect and his sister walking around in the yard. He didn't do anything.

4) At some point supposedly he (may have) gotten a gun and went outside but then decided not to pursue the suspect and his sister.

Now if I heard people in my yard I would look and see who it was. If I heard people in my garage I would look and see who they were. If I was not sure I would certainly find out who... and if it was someone I knew I would say SOMETHING. Even if it was just oh hey, what are you two doing here?... IF I called my mom and she told me no it wasn't my sister I would certainly jump into action by then. If I saw my sister wandering off with a stranger AFTER someone told me she should be at school and after I had heard strange voices and seen unknown people in my garage, I certainly would have done something (more). I think, honestly, 95% of the population would do something (more).

The suspect was super lucky. Plain and simple. He had some sort of plan, and, fortunately, nothing much interfered with it.

Exactly, thats what we would do. And yes he may of been a bumpkin duping bumpkins, but I doubt everyone that investigated are bumpkins. A perfect storm to commit is probably true. For it to go unsolved this long and it be a bumpkin, I just don't see how.

/Imma gonna quit using bumpkin now and use local since anyone could be reading here.

 

[wfgodot]

Any student of bumpkinology knows that city folk can be hideously inept as well.

 

[wfgodot]

Search for Holly Bobo continues 15 months later (wmctv.com)
Posted: Jul 12, 2012 2:08 PM CDT

 

[Onyx]

Yes but bumpkins can pull off crimes because they live with a bunch of bumpkins. Look at Ed Gein... I think in this case it can very well be a sort of "perfect storm" type of situation where the two of the three people involved did, perhaps, the exact opposite of what you or I would do.

1) Clint heard strange voices outside and didn't do anything (much).

2) Clint saw people in his garage but didn't investigate. Instead he called his mom.

3) After Clint had talked to his mom, he saw the suspect and his sister walking around in the yard. He didn't do anything.

4) At some point supposedly he (may have) gotten a gun and went outside but then decided not to pursue the suspect and his sister.

Now if I heard people in my yard I would look and see who it was. If I heard people in my garage I would look and see who they were. If I was not sure I would certainly find out who... and if it was someone I knew I would say SOMETHING. Even if it was just oh hey, what are you two doing here?... IF I called my mom and she told me no it wasn't my sister I would certainly jump into action by then. If I saw my sister wandering off with a stranger AFTER someone told me she should be at school and after I had heard strange voices and seen unknown people in my garage, I certainly would have done something (more). I think, honestly, 95% of the population would do something (more).

The suspect was super lucky. Plain and simple. He had some sort of plan, and, fortunately, nothing much interfered with it.

I think the "perfect storm" idea really fits. I've thought about this with more of "What if..?" thinking, such as what if Karen had told Clint more info right away - how she knew it couldn't be Drew, screams were heard, etc. If she had done that, Clint likely would have reacted differently. An other is what if Karen had kept her cell phone with her instead of leaving it in her class room? What if the neighbor man had come over immediately or tried to call the Bobo's home instead of his mom calling Karen at work? The near misses in this mystery are maddening!:banghead:

 

[Darcyline]

I actually think Bumpkins would be better able to hide a crime like this. A local who knows the land like the back of his hand, knows every hiding spot, perhaps knows LE on some level, knows all the possible and likely routes people would take, knows every nook and cranny and shack and hunting blind in the woods that even others wouldn't. Someone who had some family or friends who trust him and either wouldn't suspect him or wouldn't dig too much if they did notice something off. Knows when and where he is expected and wouldn't do something stupid like not show up for work for a few days. You don't have to be from a city or have a genius IQ to be smart in other ways-smart about the land, smart about the people you see every day, etc. If this happened to her we will never find her without some major break because she is probably hidden somewhere nearly impossible to find.

 

[wishuwerehere]

Search for Holly Bobo continues 15 months later (wmctv.com)
Posted: Jul 12, 2012 2:08 PM CDT

While I appreciate the Pastor Franks giving the public an update on Holly’s case, why won’t (or can’t) these news organizations get an update about Holly’s case directly from local LE or the TBI? :dunno:

 

[cluciano63]

He can be a "local" without being a super-local, as in someone they see everyday. Could be someone from a nearby town, someone who saw Holly, followed her a few times, etc...sounds like the house was generally empty by 8am, he could have seen the pattern, and of course, he did not know Clint would be there, all ears, eyes, and ever-watchful...

 

[~n/t~]

The family could have told LE and not accuse anyone in public. The important thing is LE knows who the family may suspect and they did whatever was needed to investigate.

:moo:

 

[wishuwerehere]

Something about this case doesn’t seem realistic. How can someone witness their sister being abducted and not do anything about it? Why would a grown man, who can figure things out for himself, call his mother when events are playing out right in front of him? It doesn’t make sense, right?

It doesn’t make sense because it’s not true. I purport that Clint did not witness his sister being abducted until it was too late. I think it’s possible that Clint did not witness anything in the carport. I think it’s possible that Clint’s documentary was added after the fact. Why? Because maybe he didn’t get out of bed (the first time) when his mother called and told him to check on things.

The above is a theory only. And, of course, subject to change.

 

[x_files]

I think a special should be about this cold case. Way too many rumors and not enough facts.
I'd love to see this case solved.

 

[~n/t~]

I think a special should be about this cold case. Way too many rumors and not enough facts.
I'd love to see this case solved.

I don't think it's a cold case yet but it does appear to be headed that way, unfortunately.

Yes, many of us want this case solved. I think regardless of what one's theory is, we're all here for the victim and want the truth and justice for Holly.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Exactly what I said 2 nights ago.

Also, it's possible that Clint did run after the abductor, and was disabled by a swift kick to his lower, lower stomach.
I saw a man that happened to, and he couldn't even get up, much less walk.

But according to later versions of the story Karen had Clint get a gun and go outside (at the same time the neighbor arrived) That seemingly contradicts the theory that Clint did anything else besides what he has attested to over the last year.

 

[NCISMS]

I just wish one person would do an interview telling the story the way it really was! I guess that could occur in a perfect world.....but sadly in this one...we may never really know what happened! Again, so frustrating!

 

[dejavoodoo64]

I just wish one person would do an interview telling the story the way it really was! I guess that could occur in a perfect world.....but sadly in this one...we may never really know what happened! Again, so frustrating!

I'm seriously beginning to wonder if they can't tell the truth on purpose. I don't quite get the reason why. It's like the truth would be so shocking to people that no one would believe it. Even more unbelievable than Clints story. Something like if Clint said it was Aliens that abducted Holly, or Bigfoot, a Yeti or a Sasquatch. Yeah I'm kidding, but I'm really wondering if they have to keep it quiet and protect Clint like Smooth Operator posted. Other than if it was related to drugs, LE or someone he actually recognized, I can't imagine what the reason could be. It seems like, with all the conflicting confusing stories, that they hadn't had time to get the story straight. JMO and just a question.

 

[cluciano63]

The major problem with Holly's case is the story behind her disappearance. If it is true as stated in the basics, at least, we only know that someone who Clint misidentified as Holly's boyfriend left the property with her, via the woods and that some of her blood was found. If the story we've heard is made up of lies or a cover story, than knowing about the woods, the logging roads, etc. is meaningless.

It kind of reminds me of Lauren's case; everything hinges on whether or not the last guy who claims to have seen her (JR?) is telling the truth about seeing her off on her way down the street. If that is a lie, then everything else (white trucks, etc.) is meaningless.

Everything always comes down to the last person to see the victim, IMO, and whether or not they are telling the truth. In Mickey's case, lots of people did not really believe her friend Brettley's tale of seeing her off, but we now know that to be true.

LE probably knows if the pings of the Bobo family match up to their stories. But since they are not talking, we are left in the dark. I'd like to think that LE has a circumstantial case going on behind the scenes and that by finding Holly, they would be able to make an arrest if she turns out to be found in an area where someone "pinged". Much like what I think may be the case with Kyron.

This is a rambling post, but my point is, without knowing if the initial story is true, nothing can be determined.

 

[wfgodot]

Something certainly seems to have alienated LE and the Bobos. Wondering what.