yes I understand what you mean...actually visited a Mennonite farm back in the fall and was shocked at the conditions of the rabbit barn and the chicken barn/coop...poor little buggers never saw the light of day...sure changed my attitude about Mennonites...couldn't keep my mouth shut and had to walk away from the tour guide and the rest of the group...also on that visit I noticed children in the fields and it was explained that they were picking up rocks which they have to do once the fields are harvested and before they are planted in the spring...guess they either grow or are thrown up because of frost...:moo: MOO but as usual I have to say I am still surprised that a farmer used to odours would not have notice something...just saying...