trial thread: 3/22/2012

[roseofsharon]

Could it have been here on WS? It was another one of those rumours that I've never seen in the media or in anything official. I do vaguely remember it being discussed here after the arrests.

JMO

I think I read this in one of the newspapers AG, after the arrests and the papers were reporting on where MTR had been known to frequent and I thought it mentioned that TM and JG had been known also to go to Charlies on the main street of Woodstock, knew of him, but were not necessarily even acquainted. This is just from memory though. I could be wrong here. imo

 

[dilbert]

The rumours of drug debts (and other things) were flying around the city of Woodstock long before they hit facebook and Websleuths.

MOO

 

[matou]

The rumours of drug debts (and other things) were flying around the city of Woodstock long before they hit facebook and Websleuths.

MOO

and long before Tori? Did Rafferty know about these rumours too way back when, I wonder? JMO

 

[matou]

Defence paints McClintic as the ‘engine’ behind Tori Stafford’s murder

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...-behind-tori-staffords-murder/article2377857/

 

[matou]

Defense Lawyer: McClintic was the 'Engine Who Drove the Events of That Day'

http://www.am980.ca/channels/news/local/Story.aspx?ID=1674260

 

[Hello_Kitty]

I found today's cross to be fascinating and wasn't bored at all - JMO

It blew my mind she only admitted in January of this year that she was the one that wielded the hammer!

 

[~n/t~]

Tara admitted to the drug debt (JG's debt). She said it was $400.00, IIRC.

I still fail to see what relevance any of this questioning has to do with this case and MR's defense. TM could've been a prostitute (she's not), or JG could've been a john (not) or they could've been with the Italian mafia (not). What in God's name does any of it have to do with Tori being murdered ? Seriously.

Yes it might be interesting for some but to me, it's becoming so frustrating. Let's get to what this is about, please! Enough of the back and forth with TLM.

She's a liar and a child murderer. We know. The Judge knows. The Jury knows. The entire freakin world knows.

Sorry, I'm getting really ullhair::bigfight:

 

[dilbert]

TM said that neither her or JG knew who MR was, had never met him, in the press conference she did after the arrests were made.

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/CanadaAM/20090522/090522_missing_girl/

 

[paris_paris]

TM said that neither her or JG knew who MR was, had never met him, in the press conference she did after the arrests were made.

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/CanadaAM/20090522/090522_missing_girl/

Thank you for finding the link. I was sure they said they didn't know him.

 

[dilbert]

and long before Tori? Did Rafferty know about these rumours too way back when, I wonder? JMO

If he did then it was likely because TLM told him, TM told the media she had never met MR nor knew who he was.

MOO

 

[~n/t~]

I found today's cross to be fascinating and wasn't bored at all - JMO

Really? I'm fed up with TLM on the stand, frankly. It's repetitive, it's boring and it's totally irrelevant to this case, imo.

Let's focus on why we're here, JUDGE! Please!!!

 

[Hello_Kitty]

Tara admitted to the drug debt (JG's debt). She said it was $400.00, IIRC.

I still fail to see what relevance any of this questioning has to do with this case and MR's defense. TM could've been a prostitute (she's not), or JG could've been a john (not) or they could've been with the Italian mafia (not). What in God's name does any of it have to do with Tori being murdered ? Seriously.

Yes it might be interesting for some but to me, it's becoming so frustrating. Let's get to what this is about, please! Enough of the back and forth with TLM.

She's a liar and a child murderer. We know. The Judge knows. The Jury knows. The entire freakin world knows.

Sorry, I'm getting really ullhair::bigfight:

Well I believe it is relevant as Derstine might be insinuating that TLM may have known Tori for longer than TLM is saying... how has not been established yet.

 

[~n/t~]

I noticed how the defense attorney dropped the alleged proposal like a hot potato. He went on to talk about these ridiculous rumours that have nothing to do with the case.

Yes, let's talk about the beautiful ring he put on her finger and the promises he made to her! uke:

 

[matou]

If TLM was so into blood and gore, why did she put a bag over Tori's head? Wouldn't she want to see the results of the bludgeoning? Why not use the knife that was in the car if she was into mutilation and dismemberment? The bag was used, in my opinion, to minimize the blood and gore that would result from the bludgeoning. She testified that she hit Tori with both sides of the hammer, that would break the bag open, IMO. Sorry, I'm not buying her new version. JMO<br>

 

[Hello_Kitty]

Really? I'm fed up with TLM on the stand, frankly. It's repetitive, it's boring and it's totally irrelevant to this case, imo.

Let's focus on why we're here, JUDGE! Please!!!

What would you like to happen? I believe everyone's testimony is relevant no matter how boring, it give insight into why all this happened yes?

 

[~n/t~]

Well I believe it is relevant as Derstine might be insinuating that TLM may have known Tori for longer than TLM is saying... how has not been established yet.

Why does it matter? She could've been Tori's school teacher for all I care. Curious as to why it matters in your opinion.

 

[matou]

I noticed how the defense attorney dropped the alleged proposal like a hot potato. He went on to talk about these ridiculous rumours that have nothing to do with the case.

Yes, let's talk about the beautiful ring he put on her finger and the promises he made to her! uke:

Proposal? I need to read back a bit.

 

[nobodyzgirl]

It blew my mind she only admitted in January of this year that she was the one that wielded the hammer!

It blew my mind also. I wonder if she came clean earlier, if they would ave proceeded with a direct indictment.

 

[~n/t~]

What would you like to happen? I believe everyone's testimony is relevant no matter how boring, it give insight into why all this happened yes?

I think the questioning has gone on way too long and a lot of it is repetitive. Both the prosecution and defense attornies have established she's a liar. Great. It's up to the jury to decide what they find credible in her testimony.

Personally, there is nothing more this witness can bring to this trial, imo. Let's get on to the forensics and the evidence they have against the accused standing trial.

TLM is history. She plead. She got 25 years. Put her back in the cage and let's move on.

 

[Hello_Kitty]

Why does it matter? She could've been Tori's school teacher for all I care. Curious as to why it matters in your opinion.

Wow, you said in your previous post that you think TLM is irrelevant to this case!!