Trial Thread 4/17/2012

[Hello_Kitty]

FYI

Having worked for 3 years for a cell phone carrier, I know that manufacturers of smartphones will not replace a phone for water damage. And it's very easy to tell if a phone has been water-damaged by looking at the colour the little tab is under the battery. The tab will turn red.

JW said he wanted to exchange his bb because it was water-damaged.

ps, not just smartphones, any phone.

 

[Salem]

@AM980_Court

• We're taking a 20 minute break. Heeney calls the cell phone evidence "sleep inducing".

Well apparently MR doesn't think so if it is causing him to stand up in his box. Interesting.

Salem

 

[Oldsoul2]

WHO WHO WHO did he call from Mount Forest!!!

 

[~n/t~]

In case there was an issue with the phone number being posted......here is a comment from LFP

Mike Knoll: @david - I called it and it's not in service. I think it's relevant based on area code.


Comment From david howard lang
why post rafferty's old phone number..I am sure Bell has recycled it by now and some poor innocent person is getting hundreds of prank calls

 

[Sailor Bug]

Are there any new pictures on how Rafferty looks during this trial

Mike Knoll: @guest - no cameras are allowed in court. the most recent picture we have was taken 3 weeks ago... it can be seen on the lfpress.com homepage right now.

Did TLM testify earlier that Rafferty took the battery out of his BB as they were leaving Woodstock?

Mike Knoll:- yes.

 

[Hello_Kitty]

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Rafferty is sitting closer to the evidence screen than usual.
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Showing device repair info, sent from Bell.
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Document says Rafferty got his new blackberry at Masonville Mall on May 20th. It's a typo, Brady says. It was May 19th.
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Showing Brady a letter sent from Bell. Letter says a replacement order was created for Rafferty's blackberry on May 14th.
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Showing the jury e original receipt of the blackberry purchase in 2007. Was bought at Stoneroad Mall in Guelph.
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Some calls made from Mount Forest, others from Guelph.
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Showing call information from April 8th.
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Last call shown was May 18th on original bill. Next bill has May 19th info.
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There are itemized calls on pages 5-16 of the phone bill.
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Bill was sent May 19th, 2009.
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Now showing Rafferty's account summary to the court. Log of his usage.
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The phone was located at RIM.
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Police got a warrant for Rafferty's phone records. His original phone was tracked down by police.
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Rafferty's original phone was exchanged. The phone was sent in to Bell, to be fixed, if possible.
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Sales person also told Brady Rafferty had 20 free calls to one person on his account. It was an option.
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Brady spoke to the sales person who dealt with Rafferty on May 14th. Rafferty had a list of complaints and wanted a replacement.
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Rafferty also had a new phone, Brady was told.
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Brady says the GPS add on was just somethingn that caught his eye. No particular reason.
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Brady "felt that was important". Derstine objects when Carnegie asks him why. Now content.
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Brady was given a date of purchase for Rafferty's blackberry. In January 2007. It was a curve 8830. He asked for extended warranty and GPS.
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Bell provided Rafferty's email address and postal address.
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Bell employees gave Brady Rafferty's cell phone information.
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Rafferty was not a client at Rogers in Woodstock. Data pointed investigators at Bell's London location.
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Brady also obtained evidence from Bell employees at Masonville Mall in London. Investigators were told Rafferty had a blackberry.
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He interviewed various associates of the accused in the Stafford case.
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Brady is with the OPP. He's been an officer for 27 years. Worked with Oxford Community Police in 2009. In drug unit.
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The crown has called Constable James Brady.

 

[Oldsoul2]

How could the Judge say it's sleep inducing?? It's imperative to this case that the Crown show he was trying to get rid of evidence

 

[~n/t~]

I believe the area code was 905 (right?)

 

[matou]

I believe the area code was 905 (right?)

Yes it was. I was wondering about that. JMO

 

[~n/t~]

How could the Judge say it's sleep inducing?? It's imperative to this case that the Crown show he was trying to get rid of evidence

Yup.....this judge has done a few things that I'm not very pleased about but I'll reserve my comments backed up with facts until after the trial.

 

[matou]

OK, how many phones did he have? I'm confused. JMO

 

[Hello_Kitty]

In case there was an issue with the phone number being posted......here is a comment from LFP

Mike Knoll: @david - I called it and it's not in service. I think it's relevant based on area code.


Comment From david howard lang
why post rafferty's old phone number..I am sure Bell has recycled it by now and some poor innocent person is getting hundreds of prank calls

Well, I don't know this for sure, but would not the police request the phone not be recycled because of the investigation?

 

[Sailor Bug]

In case there was an issue with the phone number being posted......here is a comment from LFP

Mike Knoll: @david - I called it and it's not in service. I think it's relevant based on area code.
Comment From david howard lang
why post rafferty's old phone number..I am sure Bell has recycled it by now and some poor innocent person is getting hundreds of prank calls

Mike K called Rafferty's number and it was not in service

lol

 

[Oldsoul2]

OK, how many phones did he have? I'm confused. JMO

2 I believe, he replaced the first one and than was given the second one as a temporary replacement waiting for his phone to be fixed

 

[Sailor Bug]

Well, I don't know this for sure, but would not the police request the phone not be recycled because of the investigation?

or for the amount of calls that poor person would get from plenty of fish

jmo

 

[~n/t~]

Ontario

416
647

Toronto (incl. East York, Etobicoke, North York, Scarborough, York); (647 overlays 416)

519

Brantford, Chatham, Galt, Guelph, Hespeler, Kitchener, London, Orangeville, Owen Sound, Sarnia, Stratford, Windsor, Woodstock

613

Belleville, Brighton, Brockville, Cardiff, Cornwall, Kingston, Marmora, Orleans, Ottawa, Petawawa, Rolphton, Trenton, Whitney

705

Algonquin Park, Alliston, Barrie, Collingwood, Hastings, Lindsay, Millbrook, North Bay, Orillia, Peterborough, Sault Sainte Marie, Sudbury, Sunderland, Timmins, Warkworth, Wilberforce

807

Atikokan, Dryden, Ft. Frances, Ft. Severn, Hornepayne, Kenora, Marathon, Nakina, Nipigon, Thunder Bay, White River

905
289

Ajax, Ancaster, Beeton, Bradford, Brampton, Burlington, Caledon, Castleton, Cobourg, Cooksville, Dundas, Ft. Erie, Freelton, Georgetown, Hamilton, Keswick, Malton, Milton, Mississauga, Newmarket, Niagara Falls, Oakville, Oshawa, Port Credit, Port Perry, Richmond Hill, St. Catharines, Selkirk, Streetsville, Thornhill, Unionville, Welland, suburbs of Toronto; (289 overlays 905)


http://www.tel3advantage.ca/area_codes_canada.htm

 

[Hello_Kitty]

OK, how many phones did he have? I'm confused. JMO

He had the bb from 2007, he sent it in to bell to have it repaired, bell store gave him a loaner until his phone was sent back from RIM. That is normal procedure when a phone is sent in for repair.

ps, I suppose that the BB wasn't back from RIM yet as the police said it was still at RIM

 

[dilbert]

So MR complained to Bell about his phone not working properly on May 14th, yet his first interview with police wasn't until May 15th. So it doesn't seem to me that he exchanged his phone because he was spooked by the police.

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Showing Brady a letter sent from Bell. Letter says a replacement order was created for Rafferty's blackberry on May 14th.

London Free Press ‏ @RaffertyLFP
Brady talked to Masonville employee who sold Rafferty a phone on May 14 2009. Employee said Rafferty complained, wanted new one

Steven D'Souza ‏ @cbcsteve
Brady spoke to Bell employee who says onMay 14 th #Rafferty came in complaining about blackberry, said he needed a new one #s

The raw unedited audio is of an interview with the Ontario Provincial Police and Michael Rafferty on May 15, 2009.

http://www.citytv.com/toronto/cityn...raw-audio-opp-interview-with-michael-rafferty

MOO

 

[~n/t~]

or for the amount of calls that poor person would get from plenty of fish

jmo

hahahahaha

 

[~n/t~]

So MR complained to Bell about his phone not working properly on May 14th, yet his first interview with police wasn't until May 15th. So it doesn't seem to me that he exchanged his phone because he was spooked by the police.










http://www.citytv.com/toronto/cityn...raw-audio-opp-interview-with-michael-rafferty

MOO

They were already onto him and he knew it. It was just a matter of time. IMO