Trial Thread 4/17/2012

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I assumed the birth certificate tweet was an error. You are not going to get across the border without a valid Passport or enhanced Drivers License.

Just catching up so bouncing off your post :)

I have gone across the border recently ( 6 months ) and my husband on 2 occassions did NOT have his passport and only the generic drivers licence on him ( not the enhanced ) with a bit of talking and explainging my husbands a idiot we have been allowed across INTO the states and Back into Canada ..

Now i dont know if it had to do with me having one and his wife and records show him or whatever but we have done it.
 
Well first off I don't think he's innocent. If he gets off on everything else, he still has to answer to charges of aiding and abetting, hiding a body, and whatever else.

But why should the law aopologize for doing its job? I understand that in the case of the wrongly convicted who have served time in jail that the law should apologize and make restitution, but not in this case :) anyway.

I totally agree HK. MR had the opportunity to make things right for himself and for the tax paying citizens of this country by telling his version of the truth right from the get go and bringing Victoria home in a timely manner. Preferably the day it happened. Saving millions of dollars of taxpayer money and LE time and effort. He didn't because his version is not the truth IMO. So LE and the citizens of this country owe him nothing if he should somehow manage to wiggle his way out of this.

If anyone should be apologizing and paying restitution it's him. Hopefully that restitution comes in the form of a life sentence for first degree murder.

MOO
 
well if so then he must have had a clean record...wonder why J had his birth certificate though....strange thing to give someone...

Ita, but jme, many years back when I lived apart from my guy, after a trip to a wonderful tropical place, I had his id. Was back in the day when expired passports were acceptable as id tho, so had his expired passport with mine. Jme
 
I have to be honest I think the only way he is going to be able to save himself if he is not guilty is to take the stand. I really don't think he will save himself unless he does.

I really don't think he will have a choice

Jmo
 
Did the OPP officer say he was in Woodstock when he saw the car? Highway 59 goes south quite a way away from Woodstock. It leads to the 401 south from Woodstock, but aren't OPP highway cops? Wouldn't the Oxford police be on Norwich Ave, leading to the 401? JMO
I don't have it in front of me, but I think I recall the tweet saying the officer was on Hwy 59/Norwich Ave. I would take this to mean just inside the city limits south of the 401. Highway 59 (now CR 59) comes into Woodstock from the south and is Norwich Ave north of the 401, becomes Cedar Street where it veers a bit west, then Wilson Street from the tracks until Dundas Srreet (Hwy 2). It then follows Dundas to the west end of town and turns north on Vansittart Ave towards Tavistock. Nobody calls it Highway 59 inside Woodstock. (Woodstock has an amazing number of streets that change their name every couple of blocks.) If the officer had been on Norwich Ave inside the city limits, I don't think he would have said "59".

Woodstock has its own police force. The OPP patrols Oxford County out of the Tillsonburg detachment. Years ago the OPP HQ for Oxford was on Hwy 2 on the east of Woodstock, but it closed.
 
Well if you use your imagination, her gift was in a LaSenza bag...

Does LaSenza have a hidden chamber in the basement where they sell whips and spiky heels with steel toes? (couldn't resist that)
 
I thought he met JW on April 11th....err, wait a min, I maybe confused with one of the other ones.....

Apparently he did. So that makes her number 5 or 6 that he was dating right after Victoria's murder. And not just a casual date for coffee but another long term relationship. He had at least 2 or 3 of those. Plus continuing to string TLM along. Then there was the other 5 or so that he was working on.

MOO
 
was he planning on going???? I remember seeing a LaSenza bag!!!!

Hey, MAYBE he was planning on going? All that dough in his glove compartment? Gambling money or money for JW to pay for his airfare? IIRC MR had a mastercard or visa card in that one drawer where the hair dye receipt was found at his mom's house. Maybe it was JW's treat to pay for the trip, so he purchased something nice for her from LaSenza to wear while they were away in Las Vegas together??? ;) MOO
 
Hey, MAYBE he was planning on going? All that dough in his glove compartment? Gambling money or money for JW to pay for his airfare? IIRC MR had a mastercard or visa card in that one drawer where the hair dye receipt was found at his mom's house. Maybe it was JW's treat to pay for the trip, so he purchased something nice for her from LaSenza to wear while they were away in Las Vegas together??? ;) MOO

Yeah, but they weren't going to Vegas together. According to the tweets he was supposed to go to the states on the 18th of may. She was supposed to go to Vega on the 20th. I don't think they had plans on going together.
 
Not Woodstock. However, when the search for Tori was escalated, the OPP stepped in and set up a command post in the closed John Deere plant.



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Originally Posted by puppyraiser
The OPP have taken over contracts in some towns across Ontario.


Like our town. It was decided at town council this year to get rid of our small police force and brink in the OPP instead, which in a way I'm ok with, I really don't think our police force are very effective here. I lived in Montreal for a very long time and I have a real phobia about city/town cops. City cops seem to be more arrogant/territorial IMO. Sorry if any cops are reading this :)
 
So he WAS south of Woodstock. I assumed he was going to the 401 but maybe he went to a small town south of there. To get rid of stuff? To meet another girlfriend? To get drugs????? Weird. JMO
We don't know how far south. I was assuming just south of the 401 or at the exit. I can't think of any reason for him to go farther south. Burgessville? Was one of the women he met from there? Also, that would be the way you would go from the east end of Woodstock to the Salford landfill site, but this was at night when it's closed.
 
Police were finally able to find Tori's remains on July 19, 2009, after cellphone records showed there were two calls made from the Mount Forest, Ont., area from Rafferty's BlackBerry on the evening of April 8.

http://www.bonnyvillenouvelle.ca/ar...interviewed-him-about-toris&template=BNVcpart

So somehow LE were able to retrieve his BB records. Must have been through his provider, even though his BB was wiped, the records would still be there. Yes today was a wee dragged out IMO but I think all the evidence today will have greater meaning tomorrow and later this week. MOO
 
Yes and:


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"He seemed to feel that the police were blaming him for taking Tori," Woods said. "I assured him that if he hadn't there was nothing to worry about...He couldn't figure out why they would blame him."It wasn't the first time the two had discussed the case, she said. It came up in conversation "quite a bit," Woods said, including one day when she and Rafferty went to watch her daughter do gymnastics.


Imagine that!

Weird what your guilty conscience can do to you eh?! MR must have been so paranoid to say LE was blaming him for taking Tori. From listening to that recorded interview on May 15/09, I never once got the sense LE were blaming him. They simply asked questions. MOO
 
They also spoke of why Rafferty made two separate phone calls to Corey’s Auto Wreckers in London referencing the missing back seat of his car and why Rafferty’s 2003 Blue Honda Civic was seen by an OPP Officer heading down highway 59 south just before midnight April 8, 2009 – the same day Tori Stafford was lured away from her Oliver Stephen’s Public School.

http://www.1047.ca/local-news/michael-rafferty-trial

Tori was already dead when the officer saw the car. JMO

OMG just sick, I wish that LE officer would have pulled him over and found all that evidence in his car, the hammer, TLM's coat, Tori's belongings, the percs and the blood and semen stained back seat. Wow unreal how he has just flown under the radar again. BB wiped before info was taken from it...grrr. I'm sure they were able to obtain BB records. moo
 
Weird what your guilty conscience can do to you eh?! MR must have been so paranoid to say LE was blaming him for taking Tori. From listening to that recorded interview on May 15/09, I never once got the sense LE were blaming him. They simply asked questions. MOO

Neither did I. He was projecting his own guilty feelings onto the officers and his paranoid mind interpreted that as, 'they are blaming him'. You know what I think, I think he knew that LE was onto him and it was a matter of time and I think he was saying he was saying that to JW so she wouldn't be too surprised when they arrested him.
 
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