Trial Thread 7 May 2012 - Closing Arguments, Defense then the Crown

[~n/t~]

oh no...not some "ugly coping".

Ya that was my immediate thought as well. The Casey Anthony mourning ritual. Get high, dance and have sex.

 

[~n/t~]

Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
Derstine questions why #Rafferty would wipe off his genital area with McClintic's coat. She said that's why she threw the jacket out.

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<barf>

 

[snoofer]

Ya that was my immediate thought as well. The Casey Anthony mourning ritual. Get high, dance and have sex.

I am not seeing defense really helping MTR MOO

 

[robynhood]

AveryFreeFMNews Derstine questions why #Rafferty would wipe off his genital area with McClintic's coat. She said that's why she threw the jacket out.

Think tweeter will slow down as they said 20 min recess now...

 

[crazyladi]

My barf bag is full, does anyone have an extra one or are all of yours full too?? JMO

 

[Hello_Kitty]

AM980.ca &#8207; @AM980_Court
The crown will suggest the removal of Tori's pants mean she was sexually assaulted. Perhaps she was killed while peeing, Derstine says.


Why is Derstine coveniently forgetting that Tori not only was missing her tights and pannies, but also her skirt and coat.

<modsnip>, maybe he got some pointers from this forum

I find his closing arguments kinda weird and disjointed.

 

[snoofer]

My barf bag is full, does anyone have an extra one or are all of yours full too?? JMO

Defense said penis, I didn't even see crown say that. This makes me feel even worse about MTR. I hadn't visualized him wiping his penis with her coat until DEFENSE brought it up. Ewwww. MOO

 

[~n/t~]

Well looks like crown won't get up today..... MOO

He's dragging this as long as he can.......

 

[Sailor Bug]

What does this mean? Is this supposed to BA? Was this mentioned before and I missed it?

Here are the tweets in order before and after
I think the tweet meant too heavy or too much heat would be on them to use BA's tools

Derstine says jury should scrub their minds if what McClibtic said about Home Depot.

He says the reliable evidence from the Home Depot was the withdrawal, and McClintic's purchase. She placed the items in the trunk.

Without McClintic, it becomes apparent Rafferty may not have known about the hammer, or told her to buy it.

Rafferty said, according to McClintic, it would be "too heat" to use Armstrong's tools. Had to head to Home Depot.

Assuming Rafferty did need tools, he a,ready had a knife in his car. Why would a full grown man need a hammer, he asks?

 

[OhSoCurious]

wonder if he is trying to infer that Tori was killed elsewhere and just deposited in MF...JMO

I have often contemplated that possibility. JMO

 

[daisy.faithfull]

I don't know about anything else, but when he talks about stuff like that or the hammer, it makes it even more difficult to concentrate on the facts because I get overwhelmed with emotion.

 

[Flowercb]

RaffertyLFP: Destine said Tori was picked at random from all 15 schools in Woodstock Was it was coincidence that they were connected

There are 15 elementary schools in Woodstock school, and 326 students at the school. "Is that a coincidence? You decide."

Derstine says the odds of randomly finding Tori, a person McClintic had a connection too, are very slim.

RaffertyLFP: Destine said Tori was picked at random from all 15 schools in Woodstock Was it was coincidence that they were connected [via Twitter]

This school was close to TLM's house was it not? I think it was just a matter of convenience on her part, or she did target Tori. But it still doesn't obsolve Rafferty from his involvement.MOO

 

[snoofer]

Plainly he was covering something up, Derstine says. But, his credibility is not at issue.

That doesn't mean his culpable of murder, Derstine says.

RaffertyLFP: Derstine admits Rafferty tried to cover up and claimed to look for Rafferty, Suggest he may have tried to run away even if he was not guilty

RaffertyLFP: Derstine suggests McClintic's shoes were thrown away quickly because they were used to kick Tori

his credibility is not an issue????Pardon, he lied to LE, etc etc etc etc etc etc. MOO

 

[Sailor Bug]

Mike Knoll: @Archana - Rodney's comments: http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/2012/05/07/19727211.html

 

[Hello_Kitty]

his credibility is not an issue????Pardon, he lied to LE, etc etc etc etc etc etc. MOO

His credibility isn't an issue because he didn't testify. We know he lies. But Derstine made sure to say that because it adds impact to the fact that MR didn't lie about who actually killed TS (I personally do not believe he didn't hit Tori at least once). It's kinda of a smoke and mirror thing he's doing. JMO

 

[~n/t~]

So Derstine admits his client helped clean up the crime scene but his client had nothing to do with the murder. So instead of calling the cops, he lies to them, tells his POF girlfriends about "the missing girl" and how he's helping look for her, in the meantime visits the murderer in jail and slow dances with her.

Alrighty then

 

[myzzy]

We're far from a verdict and sentencing at this point, but what if the judge instructs the jury to not find him guilty of murder, but just indignity to a dead body? There is a case before the court in Woodstock right now where a man is accused of a murder his girlfriend has already pleaded as accessory to and is now out and he's only pleading guilty of indignity, yet he allegedly did the killing.

http://www.woodstocksentinelreview.com/2012/05/03/robinson-smiled-before-attack-witness-says

Derstine's defence would be far more credible if he'd pleaded Rafferty for indignity to a dead body.

BBM - then he should be charged with that, and with that alone i would think would hold a lengthy prison sentence. I do not think the crown has proven beyond a reasonable doubt the charges facing MR. I trust our legal systems and believe that the jury will find him accordingly.

There is over a dozen people (the jury) who will do everything they can possibly do to make sure MR and the crowns trial will be gone over with a fine tooth comb and come to a just verdict for MR. I do have faith either way, If the jury finds him guilty then i will have faith that they heard or seen things we did not and are better able to see the truth through the lies.

What does this mean? Is this supposed to BA? Was this mentioned before and I missed it?

I think he is saying heating the drugs from BA?

 

[AbbeyR]

The "too heat" comment was from this quote in TLM's testimony. From a previous thread:

Quote:
He made a comment that he had tools at his house, but it would be ‘too heat’ (would attract too much attention) to grab them. So he said we had to make one more stop. I asked him where.”

Mr. Rafferty didn’t reply, she said.

http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/na...service=mobile

 

[OhSoCurious]

His credibility isn't an issue because he didn't testify. We know he lies. But Derstine made sure to say that because it adds impact to the fact that MR didn't lie about who actually killed TS (I personally do not believe he didn't hit Tori at least once). It's kinda of a smoke and mirror thing he's doing. JMO

I guess that was a smart move of theirs? JMO

 

[Macright]

noticed in RS interview that when asked about TLM going into the school to get TS that he was hesitant as if he has now absorbed that new evidence and is believing that she knew her target......JMO