Tricia Thread

[newtv]

Perhaps "the pedophile son of a b**tch animal who performed this heinoius act of criminality" cruises the young beauty pageant circuit in search of victims. It is not such a stretch to imagine that the beauty pageant life and JBR's sexual abuse are linked somehow.

I dont think its a stretch to link them-I think what is being said is its a stretch to think they shouldnt exist because a Pervert will prey on the children. A pervert doesnt need any reason-they prey on kids at sunday school the same way.
Thats what is being said. A ped. will make anything up in their minds to justify sex with children..rape is the better word.

 

[newtv]

As much as I hate the whole ridiculous beauty pageant thing, I in no way place blame on the Ramsey's because of it. I am a Ramsey supporter as far as the murder of their daughter goes----I don't think they did it. I don't agree with them tarting her up like a sex object, though....but I don't blame the death of JonBenet because of their decision to do the beauty pageants.

IMO, I would rather feel proud of my child for a REAL accomplishment. You know, softball, baseball, academic work. IMO, strutting around like an adult woman when your 6 yrs old is NO accomplishment, and nothing to be proud of.

hi there- people who put their children in pageants seem to think or believe it is an accomplshment like baseball etc. This was shown in the documentaries.
Its the same to them as putting their child in a sport-its competition and fun and apparently loved by the children who want to do it.
I am not arguing with u-i am in the same corner about this case as u are-just pointing to what the documentaries discovered from kids and parents.

 

[Pharlap]

Oh Darn, I just caught the end of it.

I missed it........:bang:
Are they going to replay it at all today?

 

[Eagle1]

It's not up quite yet, 3:16 pm Eastern, but we'll be watching.

 

[2luvmy]

Originally Posted by Honibugs
I hope you don't mind me quoting you, however, I agree with you Stonewall. By placing the blame for this tragedy on a parent's decision to feel proud of their child and placing the blame on a beauty pagent, it diverts the blame from the pedophile son of a b**tch animal who performed this heinous act of criminality.

I don't agree with the pageant scene, but I don't think the Ramseys were at fault for the the murder of their child, if it is proven to be someone outside the family that murdered her based on her pageant performances.

My daughters perform all the time: basketball, softball, volleyball (have you seen those volleyball bottoms), track, tennis, band, soccer, plays, walking through the mall, etc., etc.

Since I allow them to participate in these activities and something were to happen to them because some sick, perverted, individual who lusted after girls playing their instrument, liked how girls looked in the volleyball bottoms, or thought 13 year olds playing basketball was sexy, I would be at fault?

People are sick, crazy, weird, etc. I bet if we picked any type of activity that our children could be involved in there would be some sicko out there that got off on that.

It's the perverts that cause the problem. Why shouldn't those parents that want their children to participate in those contests be able to (I don't condone the Vegas Show girls for a 6 yo)? So the daughter that had to walk home from basketball practice that gets kidnapped shouldn't be playing basketball right? No ballet for "your" daughter cause she wears a tutu? No football for "your" boy because the pants are too tight?

It's the person who committed the crime's fault. They chose the action!!

 

[calus_3]

I say bulloney.

The activites you mentioned do not put your child out there in an overt and unnatural sexual way. Parading little girls around as sexual objects is just wrong....period. You can't show me how parading a girl around in a Las Vegas showgirl outfit specifically intended to be sexual, isn't wrong.

All because you get your rocks off by putting it out there.

I am sorry, beautiful baby pagents okay.....talent shows, okay......spelling bees, okay. Beauty pagents with all the sexualized outfits, NOT OKAY.

I have zero doubt that if the Ramseys didn't do this, the person who did came in contact with JBR or latched onto JBR at the pagents.

Cal

 

[T Broodwater]

While I don't agree with the whole pageant idea for many reasons, mostly because it teaches children to be proud of themselves for the wrong reasons -

I have to question whether blaming what she wore when is the equivalent of blaming a victim of rape for what she was wearing. In this case the blame would be on the parents instead, obviously - not little JonBenet.


***Don't flame me please, because you think I lean one way or another because it has nothing to do with what I think about who killed her.***

 

[T Broodwater]

I say bulloney.

The activites you mentioned do not put your child out there in an overt and unnatural sexual way. Parading little girls around as sexual objects is just wrong....period. You can't show me how parading a girl around in a Las Vegas showgirl outfit specifically intended to be sexual, isn't wrong.

All because you get your rocks off by putting it out there.

I am sorry, beautiful baby pagents okay.....talent shows, okay......spelling bees, okay. Beauty pagents with all the sexualized outfits, NOT OKAY.

I have zero doubt that if the Ramseys didn't do this, the person who did came in contact with JBR or latched onto JBR at the pagents.

Cal

Why are beautiful baby pageants okay? Just curious.

 

[justice2]

What plant exploded. I can't find anything on it.

 

[BBB167893]

Here it is!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KKe2_Sn95Go

 

[RiverRat]

Here is your Hostest with the Mostest!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KKe2_Sn95Go

 

[2luvmy]

You can't show me how parading a girl around in a Las Vegas showgirl outfit specifically intended to be sexual, isn't wrong.

I said I didn't agree with it several times.

How many kids are murdered/kidnapped because the perp saw them participating in some type of activity or doing things their families thought of as normal. What the Ramseys and other familes did at those pageants was normal to them. That is what I am saying.

Also, there are all kinds of people that show up to my children's recreational activities and I have no idea who they are or which family they belong to. They could be anyone, even a sick pervert who knows that there is a girls/boys activity going on and want to check it out. There are all over not just at beauty pageants.

 

[calus_3]

While I don't agree with the whole pageant idea for many reasons, mostly because it teaches children to be proud of themselves for the wrong reasons -

I have to question whether blaming what she wore when is the equivalent of blaming a victim of rape for what she was wearing. In this case the blame would be on the parents instead, obviously - not little JonBenet.


***Don't flame me please, because you think I lean one way or another because it has nothing to do with what I think about who killed her.***

Anything that portrays children in dress, actions, situations or other that are normally reserved for adults and are of a sexual nature, is wrong.

Las vegas showgirls wear those outfits because they show off their bodies. No different than if they had paraded them out there in dominatrix outfits.

Cal

 

[calus_3]

Why are beautiful baby pageants okay? Just curious.

Well, I woudn't enter my child in one but I feel they do not portray kids in sexual situations or dress. They are fully clothed and are voted on by being the cutest.

These pagents are nothing but pedophile fishing contests.

Cal

 

[calus_3]

I said I didn't agree with it several times.

How many kids are murdered/kidnapped because the perp saw them participating in some type of activity or doing things their families thought of as normal. What the Ramseys and other familes did at those pageants was normal to them. That is what I am saying.

Also, there are all kinds of people that show up to my children's recreational activities and I have no idea who they are or which family they belong to. They could be anyone, even a sick pervert who knows that there is a girls/boys activity going on and want to check it out. There are all over not just at beauty pageants.

Right, you can't control anything in this world, honestly.

If you knew how frequently you came within arm's length of rapists, murderers, molesters, and probably even a serial killer now and then.....you would probably kick all your family members out of your house! Kidding. No telling how often in the course of a day. In fact, I wonder how many of you women have come close to being raped and/or killed by some random stanger.

If your daughter was playing softball in a thong or a LV showgirl outfit, you could expect trouble was reasonably forecastable.

Parading girls around in grown up gowns that are cut to be revealing....revealing what, I will never know.....is wrong. Period.

Cal

 

[T Broodwater]

Anything that portrays children in dress, actions, situations or other that are normally reserved for adults and are of a sexual nature, is wrong.

Las vegas showgirls wear those outfits because they show off their bodies. No different than if they had paraded them out there in dominatrix outfits.

Cal

I didn't say it wasn't "wrong" - I said it wasn't asking for murder/molestation. I said right up from I didn't agree with pageants.

 

[BBB167893]

There is another angle to this. Even some die-hard IDIs agree with me on it, and that is that if the people like John McCann, et al got on the stand at trial, and those pageant vids were being shown at the same time, it's NOT a big leap of imagination to think "family sex abuse." Whether that feeling is justified or not is debatable. But the gut reaction is strong.

 

[calus_3]

I didn't say it wasn't "wrong" - I said it wasn't asking for murder/molestation. I said right up from I didn't agree with pageants.

You are a defensive one, aren't you?

Let me clarify.....placing your child in one doesn't justify their murder and rape.

However, attracting a pervert who might seek to do your child harm is certainly a reasonable possibility/expectation that a parent can have.

Cal

 

[RiverRat]

I have adult daughters and child daughters - and they have all been looked at and I can't stand it! How can a mother dress their child as something desirable? My kids are cute As Is! Even if they had a horn growing out of the middle of their forehead, I still wouldn't try to dress them in an alluring manner.

 

[T Broodwater]

You are a defensive one, aren't you?

Let me clarify.....placing your child in one doesn't justify their murder and rape.

However, attracting a pervert who might seek to do your child harm is certainly a reasonable possibility/expectation that a parent can have.

Cal

Yeah, it gets tiring to go out of your way to state something in a way that you don't get predicable answers and you get them anyway. I would call it frustrated more than defensive.