GUILTY TX - Adrian Peterson for child abuse, The Woodlands, 2014

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I have three productive adult children. Top students. Giving , kind people. Invited places as children because of their excellent manners. I was told this by impressed parents.

I spanked my oldest daughter once for running into the street when she was four.

The rest of them, no.

They were not perfect children and I have even learned as adults about meal time. I thought I served the perfect meals, but they would go to the bathroom and flush food they did not like down the toilet they recently told me. a little lesson in humility for me.

My son's friend damaged our car. We had increased insurance payments. Until a few years ago,we thought my son had done it. We asked him why he lied about it. He said because that boy's parents would have killed him. I am taking it as a compliment.

Hitting is not discipline. Discipline is teaching your child consequences and alternatives to poor choices.

Pray tell. What does a child learn from a swat?

If you are a man or a woman, what would you learn from a swat from your hubby or wife? Crazy, isn't it!

Wow excellent post.

On CNN earlier, Don Lemon giving the "popular" excuse for Adrian - he said, well listen I was spanked every day in Catholic school. He said, my parents also hit me for "discipline" and I had to choose my own tree branch, and if it wasn't big enough, they would pick out a bigger one.

Same excuse/explanation I have been hearing for days from TV/media commentators.

Let's see....yes, he is a successful anchor and yes he seems to be very responsible and has worked hard to achieve what he has.

However, there are also many people who have achieved professional and personal success who were not beaten at Catholic school or by their parents.

He didn't say it expressly, but I felt like he was trying to say that hey, I was beaten too and I turned out fine. So what's the problem? (Although he did not say that, but like I said, seemed to be implying it).

It's sad to hear so many in the media making excuses for Adrian.
 
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Wow, Verizon's statement really stands out.

"We are supportive of the NFL and, at this point, we are satisfied with our sponsorship of the Minnesota Vikings," Verizon said in a statement to The Associated Press. "In fact, for the past several years we have collaborated with the Vikings on several programs to raise awareness of the impact of domestic violence, an issue Verizon has had a long-standing commitment to."
 
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After reading this "mother's" statement, I have no words to even describe her outrage, not outrage at the horrific abuse her 4 yo son suffered, no, outrage that the photos were released to the media.

I'm not going to bash mom, she did the right thing.
She doesn't want her child in the news media. Surely, we can understand her desire for privacy for this child. Right? His father is world famous athlete and child abuser....


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You are going against humanity, it's cruel, it's unnecessary, it's sick and disgusting that anyone would think it's okay to hit a 4 year old. To give him a pass b/c your parents abused you is just passing on poor parenting practices to future generations.

I've seen this logic all over the web. My parents beat me, I'm a good productive adult, I'll beat my child if I want to, oh but I'll call it "discipline" I'll call it a "switch" b/c apparently people think "switch" sounds better than weapon.

Judging parents by the actions of their children in public says nothing. Absolutely freaking nothing. How would one know that child received no discipline? The 2 minute observation of a child does not indicate anything, maybe they are beaten soundly at home, maybe they frequently get spanked, maybe they get timeouts, maybe, just maybe the child has special needs, maybe they have Autism and are overwhelmed with the environment around them and are having a meltdown.

I'm pretty much sick of the argument that "i see undisciplined children all the time, they need beat".

Now I'm stepping away before I lose my patience entirely.

Omg thank you for writing this.

As an example, I will give the example of my nephew. He is very well behaved around strangers, because he seriously likes to put on an act for them. LOL. He wants everyone to say good things about him and praise him in front of him.

Then......oh wait until you go home with him and there is no one to impress anymore. Then the reality comes out!

LOL!

So, see if someone were to see him in public somewhere, they would think my God, this is the best-behaved kid in the world.
 
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After reading this "mother's" statement, I have no words to even describe her outrage, not outrage at the horrific abuse her 4 yo son suffered, no, outrage that the photos were released to the media.

When she took the boy to the doctor, I somehow doubt she understood the implications, that the doctor had to legally report this as abuse. She certainly didn't expect the photos to be release. And, she didn't expect that her child support can be reduced if there's no job for daddy.
 
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Just heard childless don lemon try to argue with two child experts explaining that love and control are what is needed not violence. He really does not have a clue. Instead of saying this is great here's a better way he was all about that doesn't work. Love people who are in the media that could be helpful doing their best to make it worse.He is a lemon alright.
 
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Just heard childless don lemon try to argue with two child experts explaining that love and control are what is needed not violence. He really does not have a clue. Instead of saying this is great here's a better way he was all about that doesn't work. Love people who are in the media that could be helpful doing their best to make it worse.He is a lemon alright.

Funny how childless people think they're perfect parents!


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Wow, Verizon's statement really stands out.

"We are supportive of the NFL and, at this point, we are satisfied with our sponsorship of the Minnesota Vikings," Verizon said in a statement to The Associated Press. "In fact, for the past several years we have collaborated with the Vikings on several programs to raise awareness of the impact of domestic violence, an issue Verizon has had a long-standing commitment to."

I will never, ever be a customer of verizon. Don't they realize being commited to raising awareness of DV and SUPPORTING child abuse conflict with each other? christ on a bike. This is not good marketing!
 
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I'm not going to bash mom, she did the right thing.
She doesn't want her child in the news media. Surely, we can understand her desire for privacy for this child. Right? His father is world famous athlete and child abuser....


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Thanks wasn't enough.

What I read from the statement is that the mother's primary concern was that her and her son's privacy was invaded. Which I completely understand. There are strict privacy laws regarding medical records so if medical personnel leaked these records, they are in violation of federal law. Those laws exist for a reason.

I find it really disheartening that on a victim-friendly website like Websleuths there are accusations and assumptions, with absolutely no evidence to support them that I've seen, that Peterson's children's mothers are willing to sacrifice the well-being of their children for Peterson providing their meal ticket. Unless there has been unauthorized sleuthing, we know nothing, NOTHING about these mothers and their thought processes.

The mother took her 4-year-old to the doctor. What evidence is there to indicate she was too ignorant to know that the doctor was mandated by law to report the injuries to law enforcement?

Maybe she saw the injuries and was appalled, but didn't know what to do in denial that her child's father who presumably cared enough about him to insist on visitation would inflict such injuries, so she decided to let an expert (the doctor) decide, thereby taking the burden off her of making the momentous decision to possibly remove a father figure from her child's life. If the child was like most little boys, he idolized Daddy Peterson no matter what.

It's easy enough for us to say "well if that was my kid I would have..." but we don't know anything about this mother or her life experiences that might have made her reluctant to immediately go to authorities once she saw the injuries.

Rant over.

My point: can we please stop bashing the mothers and making assumptions about their money-grabbing motives considering a complete lack of official information to support said assumptions?

<steps off soapbox>
 
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He would spank his ONE YEAR OLD.

One. Year. Old.

SMH

Sorry to bump my own post, but this article contains a picture of that beautiful one-year-old that Bush now--according to the article--definitively states that he "disciplines."

Says he doesn't hit her, but he does discipline her.

How does an adult discipline a one-year-old?

Have to go shut myself in a closet and scream now.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/reggie-bush-harshly-discipline-year-daughter/story?id=25537109
 
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Sorry to bump my own post, but this article contains a picture of that beautiful one-year-old that Bush now--according to the article--definitively states that he "disciplines."

Says he doesn't hit her, but he does discipline her.

How does an adult discipline a one-year-old?

Have to go shut myself in a closet and scream now.

Just the mere thought makes me feel very sick inside.


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Wow, Verizon's statement really stands out.

"We are supportive of the NFL and, at this point, we are satisfied with our sponsorship of the Minnesota Vikings," Verizon said in a statement to The Associated Press. "In fact, for the past several years we have collaborated with the Vikings on several programs to raise awareness of the impact of domestic violence, an issue Verizon has had a long-standing commitment to."

If anyone wants to know why we have so many dead children at the hands of their parents/caregivers, this explains it. We just don't value children much in this country. Unbelievable.
 
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As I posted above, Minnesota allows the public to court about child abuse cases. No privacy in MN.

Secrecy is how these things go on and on,

Sorry, not impressed with mom.
 
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If anyone wants to know why we have so many dead children at the hands of their parents/caregivers, this explains it. We just don't value children much in this country. Unbelievable.

I think I am beginning to understand the lack of respect for authority that permeates so profoundly in our country today.

And why bullying is so entrenched

And why there's so much violence

IMO


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Yes!!!

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-adrian-peterson-exempt-list-20140916-story.html

(Couldn't get headline to post in a smaller font to hyperlink the article, sorry)

Two days after announcing running back Adrian Peterson could return to practice following his indictment last week on child-abuse charges, the Minnesota Vikings reversed their decision.

The Viking placed Peterson on the exempt/commissioner's permission list early Wednesday morning in a move that will prevent him from taking part in any team activities for an indefinite period.
 

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