GUILTY TX - Adrian Peterson for child abuse, The Woodlands, 2014

[Trino]

You know what I'd like to see? For all the people that believe what this man was wrong to remember that Football
is a game, and REFUSE TO WATCH ANY TELEVISED FOOTBALL OR BUY TICKETS TO ANY LIVE GAMES UNTIL THIS IS TERMINATED.

You want the NFL's attention? That is the one and only thing that will get it. As long as they are selling tickets and pulling in big TV audiences, they will continue to give lip service to caring about domestic violence and then do as little as they feel they can get away with.

Boycott the NFL. Period. Think it won't work? Think again. Any of you Country Music fans remember a little group called the "Dixie Chicks"? They were the hottest ticket in Country Music in decades and almost universally adored.
Then they made one comment against George Bush while on stage in England, and they were done. Done. Mind you I didn't approve of the way they were treated, and personally agreed with their comment, but their careers were, and are, toast.

It can be done. Someone has to get through to these boneheads that domestic violence against women is unacceptable, and is certainly unacceptable against an innocent child.

We are not talking about a dad swatting a childs butt with his open hand here. Yes, I know many people will argue there is not difference, but IMO there is. I didn't hit my kids and my husband would have cut off his arm before he would raise it to his kids, but my own mother swatted my butt a few times in my life. It happens, but that is not what we are talking about here. Not by a longshot.

I think this is different than the Dixie Chicks. It's a male dominated sport that's really important to men in today's society. Water cooler Mondays are here to stay. Fantasy football is also here to stay. Peterson is also a very popular guy within the NFL, both with his fellow players and with fans, as evidenced by the high number of Peterson jerseys at last week's game. Finally, the NFL is so powerful that it is now considered a charitable organization - again unbelievable - and doesn't pay taxes as a normal business would do.

 

[cady]

I can't even begin to say how very pissed off I am about this. Why the hell didn't the mother take this to police? Was that paycheck so powerful that she did not protect her child? Why does it seem he was gloating about the damage he did to a defenseless 4 yo?

So am I. I think it's fair to say that all of his children's mothers are aware of his disciplinary tactics, and either practice them in the same sort of manner or generally approve of them. To report the abuse is risky for big daddy's pocketbook as well as all the various mommies financial states. And none would want a full fledged investigation by child protective services, because they could lose their children and possibly a source of their incomes. I have no idea who these women are. Maybe they are financially independent of AP. But if he has visiting times with all the children, it is safe to presume that all of them have been "whupped" at one time or another. AP is a serial child abuser. Thump your bible, AP, NOT your children. So appalling.............JMO

 

[aa9511]

Also may I say that I DO NOT agree with Charles Barkley and also with the, usually male, commentators on TV who are in a way excusing Adrian's behavior based on him coming from the South and also that he is African-American. You know, the "well it's bad, BUT......".

Beating on a child is probably a learned behavior, but that doesn't make it right. And I agree with Gitana from her above post that people don't want to speak out about it because they don't want someone to look at their own parenting. Well, as has been said on here, most people don't give a child such a severe beating. So if we look into their lives, we will find normal parenting.

If you all noticed, there was little outcry of the Ray Rice incident until the videotape showing it came out. Then it was over and people could not come up with the "BUT" excuses anymore. They did not have a platform for their "BUT" excuses anymore.

With this beating, there is no videotape of the actual beating. So people are allowed to come up with "BUT" excuses all day long. Which is what many of the sports commentators on TV are doing (Charles Barkley, Stephen A. Smith, etc.).

Why is this any less bad than the Ray Rice punch? This is even worse, IMO, because it's to a child.

But why no outcry for this?

 

[human]

I love love love your post Gitana, but I have one correction? Adults are not triple weight that of a child. A child that age may be 30 or 40 pounds?

Adrian is who he is today. Making huge bucks, having many many women and children that he sees once in awhile and children that he "disciplines". I guess the money is what counts as success.

He is in the dang limelight. He can use this opportunity to teach his fans about better parenting skills. He can become a truly great man. It would be super easy to tell the world what to do instead of whipping or hitting your child. Easy easy easy!!!

The fans need education. Big education. Huge education. He is the man to do it! Just do it!

 

[human]

Whatever is in the culture that is cruelty needs to be over.

We had a culture here where people were 2/3 of a person, women could not own property or vote, were considered as property ,children could work in factories, and only white male property owners could vote. That was our culture.

Too bad.

Anything that degrades a person or animal cannot be supported anymore, anywhere. Too too bad.

 

[JLSChook]

Hitting his sibling....or so I've heard.






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So, he teaches his little boy to NOT hit someone....by hitting him? :facepalm:

Idiotic.

 

[human]

So, he teaches his little boy to NOT hit someone....by hitting him? :facepalm:

Idiotic.

Of course. Parents do that all of the time. Hitting teaches exactly nothing for any reason , but it makes a lot of mental health issues.

 

[gitana1]

I love love love your post Gitana, but I have one correction? Adults are not triple weight that of a child. A child that age may be 30 or 40 pounds?

Adrian is who he is today. Making huge bucks, having many many women and children that he sees once in awhile and children that he "disciplines". I guess the money is what counts as success.

He is in the dang limelight. He can use this opportunity to teach his fans about better parenting skills. He can become a truly great man. It would be super easy to tell the world what to do instead of whipping or hitting your child. Easy easy easy!!!

The fans need education. Big education. Huge education. He is the man to do it! Just do it!

Thanks! My math skills are horrendous! I couldn't even tell time until the 10th grade and even then, if I hadn't had three digital clocks during the bar exam, I would've failed, not knowing how much time I had! I still have trouble with regular wall clocks! Can't multiply to save my life either. Me and numbers...it's embarrassing!

 

[buffetoflies]

Since there are so many articles on AP's side, here is one that is on the side of his son and other children than are abuse: At the very top You could say that most of the posts on that blog are on his sons side tho.

 

[rob]

My opinion- A parent should decide how to discipline their child, not other people, not the gov't. (for what its worth, the bible is also on this side) I'm not talking about abuse, I'm talking about spanking, either with the hand or a switch. I was disciplined with a switch, which sometimes left stripes, no big deal. I spanked my own child with my hand on his butt, when needed, followed by sit and think about it time. When I heard about this, I expected to see massive bruises or black eyes, but I saw switch stripes. Umm.
I see children in public, and can tell by their actions, they have never recieved ANY kind of discipline, and to me, that is much worse.
I am personally past child rearing age, so don't worry, I won't be doing any switching, but if I was on that GJ, he would not be charged.
All MOO, and I realize I'm going against the grain on the thread.

 

[gitana1]

My opinion- A parent should decide how to discipline their child, not other people, not the gov't. (for what its worth, the bible is also on this side) I'm not talking about abuse, I'm talking about spanking, either with the hand or a switch. I was disciplined with a switch, which sometimes left stripes, no big deal. I spanked my own child with my hand on his butt, when needed, followed by sit and think about it time. When I heard about this, I expected to see massive bruises or black eyes, but I saw switch stripes. Umm.
I see children in public, and can tell by their actions, they have never recieved ANY kind of discipline, and to me, that is much worse.
I am personally past child rearing age, so don't worry, I won't be doing any switching, but if I was on that GJ, he would not be charged.
All MOO, and I realize I'm going against the grain on the thread.

You better believe you're going against the grain if you think it's reasonable to whip a tiny, four year old child so hard he has welts, cuts and bruises days later, on his skin. That's appalling. And it's child abuse. And guess what? It's illegal. When you abuse a child in this way society has a right to step in and the government has a right to tell you what to do. And sometimes that what to do is jail time.

I am horrified that anyone would think savagely beating a four year old like an 1890's work horse is acceptable. Unbelievable.

 

[gitana1]

Since there are so many articles on AP's side, here is one that is on the side of his son and other children than are abuse: At the very top You could say that most of the posts on that blog are on his sons side tho.

From the article: "Beaten savagely by a 240 pound professional athlete, this very young child had leaves stuffed into his mouth and suffered open wounds on his back and buttocks, and a bruised penis. He still had welts a week after the beating."

Some believe the bible supports this and no one, government or otherwise, has a right to determine this is not okay.

 

[Linda7NJ]

My opinion- A parent should decide how to discipline their child, not other people, not the gov't. (for what its worth, the bible is also on this side) I'm not talking about abuse, I'm talking about spanking, either with the hand or a switch. I was disciplined with a switch, which sometimes left stripes, no big deal. I spanked my own child with my hand on his butt, when needed, followed by sit and think about it time. When I heard about this, I expected to see massive bruises or black eyes, but I saw switch stripes. Umm.
I see children in public, and can tell by their actions, they have never recieved ANY kind of discipline, and to me, that is much worse.
I am personally past child rearing age, so don't worry, I won't be doing any switching, but if I was on that GJ, he would not be charged.
All MOO, and I realize I'm going against the grain on the thread.

There is a middle ground between savagely beating small children and no discipline at all.

I'm beginning to think schools needs to start scraping fluffy courses in favor of basic skills in how to be a decent human being.

IMO

Violence begets violence...it's just that simple.
There is a better way and I would hope parents would WANT to know the best possible way.
Fear and pain....how can anyone think that's healthy or beneficial ???

I'm beyond disturbed.


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[Linda7NJ]

From the article: "Beaten savagely by a 240 pound professional athlete, this very young child had leaves stuffed into his mouth and suffered open wounds on his back and buttocks, and a bruised penis. He still had welts a week after the beating."

Some believe the bible supports this and no one, government or otherwise, has a right to determine this is not okay.

Tell me again, how many people did Jesus beat until they bled?


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[aa9511]

My opinion- A parent should decide how to discipline their child, not other people, not the gov't. (for what its worth, the bible is also on this side) I'm not talking about abuse, I'm talking about spanking, either with the hand or a switch. I was disciplined with a switch, which sometimes left stripes, no big deal. I spanked my own child with my hand on his butt, when needed, followed by sit and think about it time. When I heard about this, I expected to see massive bruises or black eyes, but I saw switch stripes. Umm.
I see children in public, and can tell by their actions, they have never recieved ANY kind of discipline, and to me, that is much worse.
I am personally past child rearing age, so don't worry, I won't be doing any switching, but if I was on that GJ, he would not be charged.
All MOO, and I realize I'm going against the grain on the thread.

Hi, I respect your opinion. As I said in my earlier post, I believe this kind of "whooping" aka beating parents parents give to their children is actually just a manifestation of the parent aka adult's inability to control themselves. I'm talking about the hitting until you leave bruises, switch marks, etc.. I'm not talking about a couple of hard spanks. To "teach" the child, shouldn't a couple of hard spanks be enough?

Or is the problem that maybe parents are spanking their kids too much? And the effectiveness goes away, then they have to make the degree harder and harder, until you get to point of switch marks, bruises, etc.? Maybe that is the problem.

One or two hard spanks should be enough, IMO, to teach the child that hey, you did the wrong thing and don't do it again.

But if parents are spanking for every little thing, I can see how it would not be effective anymore.

I think when it gets to severe hitting such as the case with Adrian, that's actually just the parent losing control.**

**And a child should not have to suffer physical abuse because of the parent's inability to control their own temper/anger/emotions.

JMO.

 

[gitana1]

And for those who believe the bible justifies whipping a four year old tiny child, it also states that the elders of the town should stone to death a disobedient son, Deuteronomy 21:18-21, and that those who commit adultery should be put to death, Deuteronomy 22:22-24, among other Stone Age gems.

As a Christian myself, I'm not buying that nonsense.

 

[BleuK]

Discipline and "sparing the rod" do not equate to beating your child, or hitting them so hard with a switch that you leave bloody lacerations.

The problem with using the "sparing the rod" passages from Proverbs is that you remove the message of Christ in the New Testament, as well as his sacrifice in taking that punishment. I refuse to believe that Jesus, who exhorts us to love one another as he has loved us, would condone the beating of a child. Especially not when that type of beating is done by someone who claims he didn't know how hard he was hitting the child because the 4 year old didn't cry. If a 4 year old isn't crying from that type of beating with a switch, it's because he's been conditioned not to. INCLUDING being hit in the scrotum "accidentally."

Go ahead and let someone hit you with a switch on your genitals and legs and get back to me on it just being "normal" discipline.

I'm so over those who think discipline means corporal punishment. It doesn't. I have four great kids and I didn't need to beat them raise them to be good, accomplished people.

Having been a Vikings fan since I was a kid, I am very disgusted by all of this and I'm absolutely questioning my support of a team/franchise that would compromise the welfare of a child/children just because is instumental in winning games. It's greedy, cowardly, and disgusting.

Obviously my own opinion.

 

[Trino]

MN Governor Dayton has called AP an embarrassment to the team and to the state and says Viking should suspend AP.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...on-vikings-suspend-peterson-article-1.1941505

 

[Linda7NJ]

MN Governor Dayton has called AP an embarrassment to the team and to the state and says Viking should suspend AP.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...on-vikings-suspend-peterson-article-1.1941505

Bravo! Standing ovation for that man willing to take a strong stand!!!


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[formerjerseygirl]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...pline-one-year-old-daughter-article-1.1941572
Well Reggie-aren't you special.