GUILTY TX - Alanna Gallagher, 6, Saginaw, 1 July 2013 - #5

[GingerzMomma]

It was reported the license that the father managed to write was incomplete. So it's a fact.

Okay. Link please, because I haven't seen this reported......

(FYI - I'm in neighboring 'burb, so really just want the facts more than fight. TIA!).

 

[pferrin]

Is this it??


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOJOZgmCAAAO_3P.jpg:large

http://www.webersports.com/store/Gi...serID=14396886&SessionID=g9BCa21VOeIVDwKyHczC

Pensfan is this the bike helmet part you were referring to?

 

[IBsleuthin]

Wondering how the police can so quickly state that this is an isolated case and the general public is not in danger.

Just read another article where the mother of the boy who found her was interviewed. This girl was found bound with her hands and feet tied and a plastic grocery bag over her head. Then I viewed the intersection where her body was dumped.

WHAT AN ODD way to dump this body. I wonder what this means. What is this saying to us? She was dead before her father went looking for her.

My humble opinion is that this shouts, sadistic child killer. I wouldn't let my child out of my sight if I lived within 100 miles of that town.

 

[IBsleuthin]

I think they might want to look for two suspects.

 

[jjenny]

Okay. Link please, because I haven't seen this reported......

(FYI - I'm in neighboring 'burb, so really just want the facts more than fight. TIA!).

It's already linked on this thread. Father wrote the license plate but not the middle number.

 

[IBsleuthin]

Okay. Link please, because I haven't seen this reported......

(FYI - I'm in neighboring 'burb, so really just want the facts more than fight. TIA!).

GingerzM: if you live near here PROMISE ME you won't let your child/ren out without adult supervision who understand that in my opinion you all have a tiger loose in your community.

 

[cluciano63]

It's already linked on this thread. Father wrote the license plate but not the middle number.

If so, seems like they should be able to narrow it down (if only one digit is missing.) and see if any of the possibilities match the vehicle description.

 

[jjenny]

If so, seems like they should be able to narrow it down (if only one digit is missing.) and see if any of the possibilities match the vehicle description.

That's why I am not sure (and this is my personal guess) that the rest of it is accurate.
If only one number was missing, it seems like they could have figured out who the truck is registered to.

 

[human]

http://www.webersports.com/store/Gi...serID=14396886&SessionID=g9BCa21VOeIVDwKyHczC

Pensfan is this the bike helmet part you were referring to?

I looked on the site, and this is what I think Pens is referring to

http://www.webersports.com/store/Giro-Cycling-Helmet-Parts-Accessories-C47.aspx

 

[human]

If so, seems like they should be able to narrow it down (if only one digit is missing.) and see if any of the possibilities match the vehicle description.

Where I live, they have the Vin number and they know what kind of vehicle it is. So, they should be able to figure it out from that. Put in a number, and see if it comes up a truck. If not, try another number

 

[IBsleuthin]

The speed in which she was killed, the physical proximity to which she was found and the manner in which she was dumped are amazing clues.

The binding and the bag over her head also point directly, (again in my HO) to a sadist. Plastic bags over the head are often used to suffocate then release to prolong the sadist's pleasure in watching the victim die.

I don't have the time or the patience to look back over this thread for the petechiae origination? Has her autopsy been released?

The interviews of neighbors so far have stated that it was 'common' for her to be outside in that street playing.

A predator would have spotted her a mile off.

 

[GingerzMomma]

All this talk about pools, chorine taken from home, etc....got me thinking about the use of bleach as a disinfectant commonly used in healthcare. Specifically, about its effects on DNA testing (as LE statements imply they have taken DNA samples, are testing trace evidence, etc..).

It appears the VERY GOOD news is that chlorine bleach, while it may kill pathogens and in fact does have more deleterious effect than other cleaning agents on DNA......only negatively impacts results 15-20% of the time. (Don't freak about germs - google eukaryotic vs prokaryotic cells, viruses, etc). Of course, it increases over time.

And, to be factually accurate, this study was specific to blood stains and effects on a strain of the Hepatitis B virus (not all DNA).

"3. Results and discussion
Out of all the cleaning agents bleach had the most deleterious effect on the quality of the DNA
profile obtained. In about 80% of cases, where a negative KM test was obtained, subsequent DNA
extraction provided a profile from porous materials. Attempts to obtain profiles from non-porous
materials were unreliable when duplicates were compared. In bleach treated materials the resultant
profiles continued to decline in quality exhibiting increased scatter of Hbx over time, suggesting a
continued degradation of the DNA. This was not seen in substrates cleaned with soap or nonchlorine
disinfectant. Regardless of cleaning agent used, stutter peaks were observed with
proportions less than 15%. Split peak frequencies were low (less than 16%) for all cleaning agents.
Substrate type and time were found to be insignificant variables. DNA quality was found to be
appreciably high despite the use of chlorinated and non-chlorinated cleaning agents."

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...kID4Cg&usg=AFQjCNFrwhJ0D7A5al6B8LOIldxxgwdL5w

KM = Kastle-Meyer test
Hbx = Hepatitis B virus X

 

[GingerzMomma]

Wondering how the police can so quickly state that this is an isolated case and the general public is not in danger.

Just read another article where the mother of the boy who found her was interviewed. This girl was found bound with her hands and feet tied and a plastic grocery bag over her head. Then I viewed the intersection where her body was dumped.

WHAT AN ODD way to dump this body. I wonder what this means. What is this saying to us? She was dead before her father went looking for her.

My humble opinion is that this shouts, sadistic child killer. I wouldn't let my child out of my sight if I lived within 100 miles of that town.

Wow. Could you PLEASE link this? That is almost tooooo similar to this. TIA!

 

[human]

Ginger. Could you answer some questions please?

How many houses would you say are on each block?

What time is the time when people are coming home from work and woould be driving uo to their home?

I am just wondering why no one saw a thing

 

[GingerzMomma]

GingerzM: if you live near here PROMISE ME you won't let your child/ren out without adult supervision who understand that in my opinion you all have a tiger loose in your community.

Oh trust me, I don't and won't. I was, apparently, a "free range" child back in the day.....i.e., walked to friends (usually on same street), school, etc - by myself.....but I was raised in a small town that really was a small town (not a burb of major US city). And while crime stats are actually much lower than they were back then, I guess we're just all much more aware.

I'm more afraid of them getting hit by a car, but this only adds to my justification for "heightened helicopterism". (I've made up so many new words since joining this forum!).

Thanks for thinking of us locals and encouraging a heads-up!

 

[GingerzMomma]

It's already linked on this thread. Father wrote the license plate but not the middle number.

Thanks.


If anyone else comes across/remembers this could you please provide the link? I/we appreciate it!

 

[IBsleuthin]

Wow. Could you PLEASE link this? That is almost tooooo similar to this. TIA!

! I thought I was reading about the same situation...hang on and let me get that.

 

[Pensfan]

http://www.webersports.com/store/Gi...serID=14396886&SessionID=g9BCa21VOeIVDwKyHczC

Pensfan is this the bike helmet part you were referring to?

I'm not sure. The triangle thing I remember had slots cut into it for the straps, but that's the right shape. Thanks for finding that.

 

[carole]

Thanks.


If anyone else comes across/remembers this could you please provide the link? I/we appreciate it!

The partial license tag info comes from a link in post #273. The link is to an article at examiner.com which is essentially a blog, not MSM. So this is NOT to be taken as fact.

In the video and article at this link, it is reported that the father got the tag number, says nothing about a partial number --

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Incident-With-Pickup-Truck-Eyed-in-Saginaw-Slaying-214693701.html

 

[IBsleuthin]

Wow. Could you PLEASE link this? That is almost tooooo similar to this. TIA!

I don't want to break any WS rules here so this is the link where I was reading this.

Scroll way down and there is a clear photo of the tarp in the intersection. I'm tired tonight so this may be a different case. I thought it was odd in the one photo that shows the woman bending over by the stuffed animals that it says, they didn't know the identity of the body???

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tarp-street-polyamorous-relationship-man.html