TX - Botham Shem Jean, 26, killed when police officer entered wrong apartment, Dallas, Sept 2018

[cluciano63]

It isn’t her apt, and she is giving him order to put up his hands etc....good grief. This all makes me sick. And scared, living in a building with police...

 

[Jennifer17]

That's why I immediately wonder if it can be disproved by the autopsy...

Justine Damond died after she spoke. She said something like 'I am going to die' and died shortly after.

 

[Jax49]

I can’t read who the judge is. Anyone?
Affidavit: Officer Shot Into Darkened Apt., Killing Resident

Hon. Stephanie Fargo

 

[CARIIS]

Ok so which is it? Did she go in the hallway to check the address to see where she was or did she turn the light on and see the wrong apartment? So many contradictions in this entire murder.

even our doorknobs and marks around the key lock are different !

meds medical?

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Dallas officer who shot man claims she didn’t know she was in wrong apartment until calling 911

 

[CARIIS]

Ummmm... if you think someone's broken into your apartment and you're not in the apartment, you maybe go outside and call 911?
Makes no sense that she got this mixed up with her own apartment.

do you guys know amount of time her shift ended and all this happened?

 

[Jennifer17]

do you guys know amount of time her shift ended and all this happened?

No, they are not letting that out.

 

[mickey2942]

Dallas officer who shot man claims she didn’t know she was in wrong apartment until calling 911

I read the complaint, why would she go check the number on the door? Wouldn't she have just given her apartment number? If she thought she was in her apartment, she would not have looked at the door for the number.

 

[Thora_Jay]

I cant help but wonder if their is addiction and she was scared to admit she was altered as it relates to her employ

being a floor off with a bright red matt that you dont have has to mean some processing problems imo

She also forgot where the hell she parked. How could she forget that she parked on the 4th floor parking when she knew upon driving onto that parking garage floor that she would have to go down 1 flight in the elevator.
Forgive me if I am ignorant on this, but my son lived in an apartment building that had a parking garage a few floors. You park on the floor you live on and go through a secure door that leads to the apartment hallway where all the apartments are on that floor. You do not get in an elevator unless you have to go to an upper or lower floor to get to your apartment. (Or unless you come in off the street in the main entrance not the garage) So how did she end up getting on an elevator on the 4th floor that is on the forth floor? What was she doing in the damn elevator unless she knew she had to go a floor down and then all of a sudden have amnesia and not take the elevator down a floor and just step back out of the elevator still on the forth floor? I am confused about this whole murder.

 

[Jennifer17]

I read the complaint, why would she go check the number on the door? Wouldn't she have just given her apartment number? If she thought she was in her apartment, she would not have looked at the door for the number.

Very good point.

 

[Medstudies]

Same reaction I had.

ETA: Can't imagine what his family is going thru. Seeing the brother's tears in the press conference was too much. And the unbelievable strength of his mother.

moo

Same here. My heart is in pieces. I cannot begin to comprehend the family’s pain. And when they think it can’t get worse? It does.

It’s so messed up.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Officials were tight-lipped Monday about what happened inside Jean's apartment, what the officer's physical and mental state was at the time, whether she was under the influence of a controlled substance, why she thought Jean's apartment was hers, and why a trained officer seemed so quick to use deadly force.

A grand jury will ultimately decide the final charges against Guyger and could consider charges such as murder, a first-degree felony, or the lesser charge of manslaughter, a second-degree felony.

Still, Lee Merritt, an attorney representing the Jean family, told The Washington Post that Guyger’s claims in the affidavit are inconsistent with evidence that has been presented to the district attorney. “There are witnessses who said that before the gunshots they heard the officer knocking at the door and repeatedly saying, ‘Let me in.’”

Dallas officer who shot man claims she didn’t know she was in wrong apartment until calling 911

 

[CARIIS]

The affidavit filed for the manslaughter arrest of a Dallas police officer who shot Harding graduate Botham Jean in his own apartment says he ignored her verbal commands and she fired after she entered his apartment thinking it was her own.


She said she didn't know she was in the wrong place until after she'd shot Jean. She said the door opened at the push of electronic key card into the door lock and that when she was entered the apartment was dark and she could only see the silhouette of someone she presumed was a burgla

Affidavit released in Dallas cop's shooting of Harding graduate

cop or not if that happened to me i would RUN!

 

[MaryG12]

She also forgot where the hell she parked. How could she forget that she parked on the 4th floor parking when she knew upon driving onto that parking garage floor that she would have to go down 1 flight in the elevator.
Forgive me if I am ignorant on this, but my son lived in an apartment building that had a parking garage a few floors. You park on the floor you live on and go through a secure door that leads to the apartment hallway where all the apartments are on that floor. You do not get in an elevator unless you have to go to an upper or lower floor to get to your apartment. (Or unless you come in off the street in the main entrance not the garage) So how did she end up getting on an elevator on the 4th floor that is on the forth floor? What was she doing in the damn elevator unless she knew she had to go a floor down and then all of a sudden have amnesia and not take the elevator down a floor and just step back out of the elevator still on the forth floor? I am confused about this whole murder.

Makes me wonder if Guyger stopped at a bar at the end of her shift before returning to the apartment.

No toxicology report yet?

 

[Rocco]

Omg, I. Can’t.

I can't either---as in I can't believe it's true. A dying man who's shot in the chest and a neighbor can hear him say that?? She must have had one of those devices that magnify sound because he couldn't have said it in a voice much above a whisper and he was in his apt.

 

[Herat]

It does say ”Guyger drew her handgun, gave verbal commands that were ignored and fired her weapon twice, striking 26-year-old Botham Jean once in the torso.“.

”Ignoring verbal commands“ can mean anything from not putting his hands up to walking towards the door.

But why should he “obey verbal commands” ?

He was in his own apartment retiring for the night in the dark. He did not call for police, he did not commit a crime, for all he knows the voice is coming from a burgler or a drunk. Why would he open the door?

 

[CARIIS]

3:50 p.m.
An investigator says a Dallas police officer who shot and killed her neighbor after mistaking his apartment for her own said that when she inserted her key in his door, it opened because it had been slightly ajar.

David Armstrong of the Texas Rangers wrote in an arrest affidavit released Monday that Officer Amber Guyger said it was nearly completely dark inside the apartment when she entered it Thursday night and she thought she was encountering a burglar in her home.

He says Guyger said the person ignored her verbal commands and she fired twice. One struck Jean in the chest and he later died.

The affidavit says Guyger was on the phone with 911 reporting the shooting when she turned on the apartment lights and discovered she was in the wrong apartment. It says Jean's apartment was the one right above Guyger's and the apartment layouts and exterior hallways were nearly identical.
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has a floorplan been linked

trying to grasp not knowing it was not yours

but mine is foyer and stairs up inside

so that way i guess could i understand not realizing

but if the door opened up to to a living room even in low light you would see shapes of furniture

everyone's home has its own smell as well

and i just got to the report they describe it as a chip door mechanism

so the fumbling with a key has to be wrong if it is a chip entry system

those usually beep

this is a mess as i am trying to get up to date i go back and forth and back and forth

if he was far from the actual door she ought to be trained enough to use care before blowing someone else away

but if it was right there she is cop has a gun it would be instinct to just fire instantly training

so I would think where he was in the unit would be telling -- anyone know for sure --in the report I did not get sense that he was right at the door tho

the hallway lit if he was right at the door when the door opened it would be easy to see him

some dude in his underwear in a totally dark house ( if he was right at the door) (do burglars go robbing in their underwear ? I would call that a crime of a different nature!_

BB = Boxer Burglar!

TWT _ Tighty whitey thief

 

[Medstudies]

Justine Damond died after she spoke. She said something like 'I am going to die' and died shortly after.

And, Lesandro Guzman-Feliz, - (the young man brutally butchered in the Bronx bodega who tried to run to St.Barnabas hospital a block away for help.) just before he died, he asked for a drink of water.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Dallas County District Attorney Faith Johnson promised to leave no stone unturned and fully investigate the case of an off-duty Dallas police officer who shot and killed her neighbor in his own apartment.

Johnson said she met with the Texas Rangers for two hours Sunday before the agency issued an arrest warrant for Officer Amber Guyger. Although the officer was charged with manslaughter, the DA reminded people that the grand jury will have final say over what charges she will face.

“The grand jury will decide if the charges should be different,” she said during a news conference Monday morning. “Believe me, we will make sure justice is done in this case.”

she assured that her office will conduct a thorough investigation in parallel to the Texas Rangers’ investigation.

“We’re going to get our ducks in a row and will have a full picture of what happened,” she said.

Dallas County DA promises to fully investigate off-duty cop who shot neighbor dead

 

[Rocco]

Really nice, she lives in the same apartment building as Guyger, she must feel really safe! I wonder if Guyger can be evicted, I wouldn't want her as a renter there any longer, the other residents wouldn't feel safe. And Guyger is probably not safe now either.

What makes me really angry, is I would like to know how long she is eligible for administrative leave with pay. How many of you could kill someone and get paid to stay home with full pay for months on end?

I wonder if they paid her bail and are also going to pay her attorney fees, even though she wasn't on duty.