TX TX - Brandon Lawson, 26, San Angelo, 8 Aug 2013 - #2

[bakerlady]

I find it interesting that he seems like he said there were 'state troopers on both sides' and the deputy said two cars were sent, in either direction to look for him. So perhaps he saw them both drive by and freaked out.

Seems very plausible.

Also I thought it was AK and LL that we noticed were not FB friends. Not BL and AK.

 

[Balor51]

If he ran into trouble in San Angelo, it would have run it's course from about midnight until 1:20 which would have been an hour and 20-30 minutes.

If he ran out of gas and then had trouble, it would have taken about 30 minutes.

Either way, BL is not found and as long as the family has not told LE the whole truth from the beginning I don't think they are real inclined to go any further out of their way. According to the cnn report online there have been over 10 searches on foot and air. I think it is going to take someone happening upon a scene and reporting it to LE now.

Look how many people and places they searched for Hailey Dunn and it was a man looking for arrowheads who found her partial remains. They even had a POI. No arrest in that case and the few remains found have not been returned to family.

I am afraid there is not much more to do here but speculate and wait for more clues from LE.

Sadly I believe you are right. At this point they are more interested in creating drama on FB and smiting everyone or threatening gods fury. By the way, it really fries my butt when people use religion/god the way they do.


Unless someone gives the information, finding BL will happen just like you said. No body deserves that.

I'm kinda of guessing on my times since we don't know what is true about K & A's. I just feel like it was a somewhat short amount of time.

I am still wondering why K went to check on LL prior to the 911 call being made. What happened in the fight LL & BL had? Very confusing. And if the smiters are watching, know these small details helps to determine his state of mind and could lead in directions of what could have happened or where he went to.

 

[Balor51]

One of my many opinions would be, after spending the day watching people on meth and their behavior, maybe BL was on meth, had a relapse, his paranoia about someone chasing him was when he ran out gas, maybe he tried pushing his truck, possibly changing its direction, a passing motorist (the pregnant woman) see's him, possibly with blood on his hand sitting or laying by the road. Therefore she wants to stop and give CPR, but decides not to. BL freaks by the few passing cars and possibly when the trucker passes he jumps up thinking he needs to move. He then sees state troopers on both sides of the road (the two deputies that arrive with lights on) when KL and AK arrive simultaneously. He calls 911. He runs into the woods because AK calls him and says the cops are here, he knows them and trusts them, but he's paranoid and talking to himself changing his voice playing out another character as meth users do. In a paranoid state he is panicking and starts running adrenaline pumping. Drops the phone somewhere in the woods but continues to run, maybe into the river or further into isolated area and suffers either a heart attack or passes out and the infamous mountain lion that the sheriffs wife posted a picture of finds him or a wild boar or something injures BL and he is never found again.

This MOO. But after seeing all the meth videos in stores on sidewalks etc. this just makes more sense.

My timeline is off a little, but this is one of my many opinions. :moo:

I so wish we could talk to the pregnant woman. I can see a heart attack happening. Meth will mess you up bad. Never understood why it has so many people who use it.

Are mountain lions really around that area much? Boars I can believe. Plus they are mean suckers. Blood thirsty I have heard.

I have also wondered if he could have started using again maybe in the weeks prior to missing. Did LL notice anything ? If he was, I am doubtful she would even understand it. The lack of correct information is just downright disgusting. LE I understand, but the other side, I do not understand that one bit.

I have always said, if my house caught fire, I will die saving my kids and getting everyone out of the house. I am my children and my love ones advocate.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I find it interesting that he seems like he said there were 'state troopers on both sides' and the deputy said two cars were sent, in either direction to look for him. So perhaps he saw them both drive by and freaked out.

Seems very plausible.

Also I thought it was AK and LL that we noticed were not FB friends. Not BL and AK.

But the deputies weren't dispatched until after his 911 call. (at least as far as we know) and the trucker call was even after that at 12:58.

 

[Balor51]

But the deputies weren't dispatched until after his 911 call. (at least as far as we know) and the trucker call was even after that at 12:58.

I have been thinking of this, could the trucker call have been BL? Wasn't it said that BL made two 911 calls? I'm kinda stymied on the calls. Maybe because no truck has turned up saying he made the call. I would think if he saw flyers or news or something he would give more information somewhere.

 

[Stella888]

I find it interesting that he seems like he said there were 'state troopers on both sides' and the deputy said two cars were sent, in either direction to look for him. So perhaps he saw them both drive by and freaked out.

Seems very plausible.

Also I thought it was AK and LL that we noticed were not FB friends. Not BL and AK.

You are right! I had a dumb moment! Forgive me. Watching too many meth users today. Lol

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I have been thinking of this, could the trucker call have been BL? Wasn't it said that BL made two 911 calls? I'm kinda stymied on the calls. Maybe because no truck has turned up saying he made the call. I would think if he saw flyers or news or something he would give more information somewhere.

According to LL (Blogtalk) she did not talk to the trucker after the fact, but LE did.

 

[Stella888]

But the deputies weren't dispatched until after his 911 call. (at least as far as we know) and the trucker call was even after that at 12:58.

I am so confused about the timeline. I wonder if psychic sleuth could post one again? Please? Thanks in advance. I'm going to figure this out. I am determined to find BL.

Also now that I've gone back to the beginning. I noticed an interesting comment and discussion on LL's FB. The 911 tape was released to her by the Texas Ranger in order for LL to confirm that it was indeed BL on that call. Could this be why it doesn't make sense? Does that tape consist of both calls and this is why it doesn't make any sense? At the beginning of the tape after she says 911... You can hear him say yes. If he were scared and panicked would he say yes, I'm in the middle of a field? Or is that yes from a question she ask him regarding his location. Then he calls back and says I got chased into the woods in the second call and parts have been cut and pasted, just so LL could confirm all those voices are BL? If we moved each sentence around it might make more sense.

Just another of my many opinions.

 

[Stella888]

According to LL (Blogtalk) she did not talk to the trucker after the fact, but LE did.

So she says. Once I can find or read a timeline, maybe it will help my memory about the trucker call.

 

[Stella888]

I so wish we could talk to the pregnant woman. I can see a heart attack happening. Meth will mess you up bad. Never understood why it has so many people who use it.

Are mountain lions really around that area much? Boars I can believe. Plus they are mean suckers. Blood thirsty I have heard.

I have also wondered if he could have started using again maybe in the weeks prior to missing. Did LL notice anything ? If he was, I am doubtful she would even understand it. The lack of correct information is just downright disgusting. LE I understand, but the other side, I do not understand that one bit.

I have always said, if my house caught fire, I will die saving my kids and getting everyone out of the house. I am my children and my love ones advocate.

You could FB message her, but so far she isn't responding to anyone. She is lurking though or at least this is my opinion from her posts. Maybe we can get HER to join us as well. I would like to know what would compel her to want to give CPR to a vehicle on the side of the road, but chooses to have her mom call LE instead, because she was a few weeks pregnant.

 

[Balor51]

I am so confused about the timeline. I wonder if psychic sleuth could post one again? Please? Thanks in advance. I'm going to figure this out. I am determined to find BL.

Also now that I've gone back to the beginning. I noticed an interesting comment and discussion on LL's FB. The 911 tape was released to her by the Texas Ranger in order for LL to confirm that it was indeed BL on that call. Could this be why it doesn't make sense? Does that tape consist of both calls and this is why it doesn't make any sense? At the beginning of the tape after she says 911... You can hear him say yes. If he were scared and panicked would he say yes, I'm in the middle of a field? Or is that yes from a question she ask him regarding his location. Then he calls back and says I got chased into the woods in the second call and parts have been cut and pasted, just so LL could confirm all those voices are BL? If we moved each sentence around it might make more sense.

Just another of my many opinions.

I think I am confused. Didn't LL say the 911 tape wasn't supposed to have been released? I have gone over so much stuff my brain feels like scrambled eggs. But I think everything I have read, LE stated there were two 911 calls and at least one of them was a stranded motorist call. Did they ever official confirm that a trucker called in on 911? Or did the trucker maybe call the non-emergency line?

 

[Balor51]

You could FB message her, but so far she isn't responding to anyone. She is lurking though or at least this is my opinion from her posts. Maybe we can get HER to join us as well. I would like to know what would compel her to want to give CPR to a vehicle on the side of the road, but chooses to have her mom call LE instead, because she was a few weeks pregnant.

That totally baffles me! I can always try, I really wish she would join us here, having someone who may have seen anything would be great. I wonder if she has been threatened in any way?

 

[TRL]

I've been keeping up with this case still (if you can call being at a standstill keeping up...), but due to my husband's job and having a little one, there's not a ton of free time for me to post. I just wanted to thank each of you who consistently post and rehash theories and information that we have. All of you are incredible and it shows how much you truly care and want Brandon to be found.

I don't mean any disrespect towards LL, KL, AK, or any other family member by saying this, but.... if this were my husband (or brother, son... even friend), you wouldn't be able to stop me from getting word out about his disappearance and trying to find out information surrounding that night and what happened. Why doesn't there seem to be an urgency? THANKFULLY, I have never had to deal with a disappearance by someone I know or anything, so maybe it's just not as easy as it would seem... but LE and the media wouldn't be able to scrape me off of their boots. I hope that LL and the others are trying every way they can to put the pieces together.

Brandon, where are you? I pray you come home or there are answers to your disappearance SOON.

 

[nannymo]

I've been keeping up with this case still (if you can call being at a standstill keeping up...), but due to my husband's job and having a little one, there's not a ton of free time for me to post. I just wanted to thank each of you who consistently post and rehash theories and information that we have. All of you are incredible and it shows how much you truly care and want Brandon to be found.



I don't mean any disrespect towards LL, KL, AK, or any other family member by saying this, but.... if this were my husband (or brother, son... even friend), you wouldn't be able to stop me from getting word out about his disappearance and trying to find out information surrounding that night and what happened. Why doesn't there seem to be an urgency? THANKFULLY, I have never had to deal with a disappearance by someone I know or anything, so maybe it's just not as easy as it would seem... but LE and the media wouldn't be able to scrape me off of their boots. I hope that LL and the others are trying every way they can to put the pieces together.



Brandon, where are you? I pray you come home or there are answers to your disappearance SOON.

Welcome TRL. We are happy to have you. Even part-time!

 

[Balor51]

I've been keeping up with this case still (if you can call being at a standstill keeping up...), but due to my husband's job and having a little one, there's not a ton of free time for me to post. I just wanted to thank each of you who consistently post and rehash theories and information that we have. All of you are incredible and it shows how much you truly care and want Brandon to be found.

I don't mean any disrespect towards LL, KL, AK, or any other family member by saying this, but.... if this were my husband (or brother, son... even friend), you wouldn't be able to stop me from getting word out about his disappearance and trying to find out information surrounding that night and what happened. Why doesn't there seem to be an urgency? THANKFULLY, I have never had to deal with a disappearance by someone I know or anything, so maybe it's just not as easy as it would seem... but LE and the media wouldn't be able to scrape me off of their boots. I hope that LL and the others are trying every way they can to put the pieces together.

Brandon, where are you? I pray you come home or there are answers to your disappearance SOON.

:goodpost::welcomeback:

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Aug 8 11:53pm Brandon left his house (PI timeline 11:54/Blogtalk 11:53)
Aug 9 12:10am Kyle went to Brandon/LL’s house to check on Ladessa (PI timeline)
Aug 9 12:30am Kyle called Ladessa and said Brandon was out of gas and said he needed gas cans (PI timeline)
Aug 9 12:34am Ladessa had missed call from Brandon/phone charging in van and she did not know (PI timeline)
Aug 9 12:36am Ladessa had missed call from Brandon/phone charging in van and she did not know (PI timeline)
Aug 9 12:38am Brandon called Kyle saying he ran out of gas (Blogtalk transcripts)
Aug 9 12:40am Ladessa reports 911 call about truck in the road at 12:40 (facebook)
Aug 9 12:48am Ladessa had missed call from Brandon/phone charging in van and she did not know (PI timeline)
Aug 9 12:53am Brandon 911 call (PI timeline 12:53am/blogtalk transcripts 12:54am)
Aug 9 12:58am 911 call about truck parked haphazard on road (sanangelolive.com)
Aug 9 1:10am Kyle/Gf and Deputy Neal arrive at the truck (blogtalk transcripts)
Aug 9 1:19am last communication from Brandon to Kyle’s gf saying he was bleeding (blogtalk transcripts 1:19/PI Timeline says called on the way to truck at 1:18)
Aug 9 4:30am Kyle calls Ladessa to tell her he can’t find Brandon/she realizes she has missed calls (blogtalk transcripts)
Aug 9 5:00am Ladessa called police station to see if there was an update (PI Timeline/blog talk says 4:30am)
Aug 9 7:00am Kyle puts gas in the truck and leaves the gas can in the back (blogtalk transcripts)
Aug 9 8:30am Sheriff’s dept has truck towed (blogtalk transcripts)

Sources:
PI timeline link
https://www.facebook.com/helpfindbra...48087428733673

Blogtalk transcripts are on page 2 of this thread.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...=222105&page=2

sanangelolive.com about 911 call for truck on side of road
http://sanangelolive.com/news/2013-0...brandon-lawson

 

[Stella888]

Aug 8 11:53pm Brandon left his house (PI timeline 11:54/Blogtalk 11:53)
Aug 9 12:10am Kyle went to Brandon/LL’s house to check on Ladessa (PI timeline)
Aug 9 12:30am Kyle called Ladessa and said Brandon was out of gas and said he needed gas cans (PI timeline)
Aug 9 12:34am Ladessa had missed call from Brandon/phone charging in van and she did not know (PI timeline)
Aug 9 12:36am Ladessa had missed call from Brandon/phone charging in van and she did not know (PI timeline)
Aug 9 12:38am Brandon called Kyle saying he ran out of gas (Blogtalk transcripts)
Aug 9 12:40am Ladessa reports 911 call about truck in the road at 12:40 (facebook)
Aug 9 12:48am Ladessa had missed call from Brandon/phone charging in van and she did not know (PI timeline)
Aug 9 12:53am Brandon 911 call (PI timeline 12:53am/blogtalk transcripts 12:54am)
Aug 9 12:58am 911 call about truck parked haphazard on road (sanangelolive.com)
Aug 9 1:10am Kyle/Gf and Deputy Neal arrive at the truck (blogtalk transcripts)
Aug 9 1:19am last communication from Brandon to Kyle’s gf saying he was bleeding (blogtalk transcripts 1:19/PI Timeline says called on the way to truck at 1:18)
Aug 9 4:30am Kyle calls Ladessa to tell her he can’t find Brandon/she realizes she has missed calls (blogtalk transcripts)
Aug 9 5:00am Ladessa called police station to see if there was an update (PI Timeline/blog talk says 4:30am)
Aug 9 7:00am Kyle puts gas in the truck and leaves the gas can in the back (blogtalk transcripts)
Aug 9 8:30am Sheriff’s dept has truck towed (blogtalk transcripts)

Sources:
PI timeline link
https://www.facebook.com/helpfindbra...48087428733673

Blogtalk transcripts are on page 2 of this thread.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...=222105&page=2

sanangelolive.com about 911 call for truck on side of road
http://sanangelolive.com/news/2013-0...brandon-lawson

May God Bless you and triple Thanks! I will save this one for future reference!!!!

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

May God Bless you and triple Thanks! I will save this one for future reference!!!!

Well be warned there are discrepancies. I've also heard 1:10ish, 4:30 for time KL put gas in the truck. These are not on the timeline.

Like how could Kyle have called LL asking for gas cans prior to B calling him telling him he was out of gas? (see timeline)

I do want to point out that the PI timeline does give some times as approx. so this could explain some of it.

Feel free to update and add to the timeline as needed.

 

[Balor51]

I had a 911 call of my ex. The tape was released to my attorney. The full version. When it was released it had not been done according to the law and therefore could not be used as evidence. So I started thinking. We can only hear BL, other than the dispatcher which it wouldn't matter what she said. Obviously she isn't really saying much. It's mostly BL. I feel pretty confident that is the sole purpose of this tape. This is NOT the actual tape. It will be held as evidence until this case comes to trial. Just my MO.

I remember after my ex husbands trial, I received a large packet in the mail from the state police. They accidentlly I think, sent me his interrogation tape which also had his confession. I was horrified. I don't think I was ever supposed to get it nor did I ever request it.

I think you are right. It makes so much sense now when I think of it that way . It helps look at everything hopefully in a new light? Maybe ?

 

[Balor51]

I believe I read somewhere that the tape had not been edited. Maybe it was techpuppy? I need to go find it, but I do think BL's words are in consecutive order. I think this is a copy of the real tape in almost all of it's entirety.

I think I am trying to find some light at the end of the tunnel.

You might be right. I know wen I listened I felt that it was edited.


I better go to bed. I have to get up in a few hours , my 9yr old is in a bowling tournament. They can't seem to have them at normal hours fftobed::bedtime: