TX - Elizabeth Barraza, 29, murdered setting up garage sale, Harris Co, Jan 2019 #3

[cnmccarthy]

I think the website for Liz was pretty good for timeline. Sergio left, 4 minutes later killer showed up, I think it was 7 minutes after Sergio left that the ring doorbell recorded her being shot. So he would have been 7 minutes from home when he got the ring alert assuming he got alerts.

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www.whokilledlizbarraza.com

Thank you so much! That’s what I thought but wasn’t sure. It’s so suspicious to me. IMO

 

[JnRyan]

I think the website for Liz was pretty good for timeline. Sergio left, 4 minutes later killer showed up, I think it was 7 minutes after Sergio left that the ring doorbell recorded her being shot. So he would have been 7 minutes from home when he got the ring alert assuming he got alerts.

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www.whokilledlizbarraza.com

He probably did get alerts from the Ring camera but he knew Elizabeth might have been going back and forth setting up the garage sale. I don't believe he got concerned till 0719 when LE entered his home and triggered the home alarm and then he started checking the Ring video.

Edited to add: Sergio's interview about 6 minutes into the "On the Case with Paula Zahn" episode on 30 October. I don't know how to link it here as I watched it on Amazon Prime.

 

[arielilane]

In lieu of watching A Fairy Tale Ruined on ID Channel, at this time, a full episode is available at yt at no charge as someone uploaded it there. I don’t think it's allowed to post link here.
Also, full episode is available at yt/Paula Zahn at a cost. IMO

 

[Ajs1004]

In lieu of watching A Fairy Tale Ruined on ID Channel, at this time, a full episode is available at yt at no charge as someone uploaded it there. I don’t think it's allowed to post link here.
Also, full episode is available at yt/Paula Zahn at a cost. IMO

It’s also on Discovery Plus, if you have that streaming service. That’s how I watched it.

 

[Quiet Time]

What I'm wondering is...how did that truck know to maneuver/drive a certain way so that the license plate wasn't seen in the RING camera. How'd he/she know to do that!??

 

[JnRyan]

What I'm wondering is...how did that truck know to maneuver/drive a certain way so that the license plate wasn't seen in the RING camera. How'd he/she know to do that!??

I do wonder if this killer had been to the house in the past, possibly on Star Wars business and knew about the camera. As far as not obtaining the license plate I believe the killer lucked out. I have similar camera and if it is at night the glare from the license plate bulb or even the headlights sometimes obscures the license plate in the video. If that had been in June and the sun was up and the car's lights were off I bet LE might have been able to get a license #.

This killer just seems to have all the luck regarding the crime scene. I hope if LE can find the truck and there was blood splatter, that the killer transferred some of that blood to the upholstery.

 

[Quiet Time]

Another thought.......may be the license plates were covered up.

So, it wouldn't have mattered about the camera at all. He/she seemed to be pretty well prepared anyway ie: their manner of dress, the timing.

jmo

 

[loveplace]

Another thought.......may be the license plates were covered up.

So, it wouldn't have mattered about the camera at all. He/she seemed to be pretty well prepared anyway ie: their manner of dress, the timing.

jmo

That really seems like it might be a fair possibility in this case given how far out from the crime we are. Just my opinion.

 

[dgfred]

I watched a movie about a family committing crimes with different vehicles they owned/had ... then they would bury each one with a tractor. No more vehicle.

 

[iamnotagolem]

I watched a movie about a family committing crimes with different vehicles they owned/had ... then they would bury each one with a tractor. No more vehicle.

And I thought my hobbies were expensive!

 

[dgfred]

The crimes were in neighboring towns and states so nobody really recognized a vehicle as theirs. And if they did wonder the vehicle was by then buried 10 ft underground in another area.

I am trying to figure out how the vehicle is seen on camera... but never again.

 

[DeDee]

In the likelihood that a truck with a covered license plate may certainly be stopped by an authorized LEO, may I suggest instead, that perhaps a license plate with a Harris County number was stolen then placed on the truck? The possibilities are not endless.

@dgfred when you figure out how the vehicle is never seen on camera again, please inform the rest of us. I thought AStoner's video contained a fairly good description of the path of travel out of the neighborhood that could explain this situ.
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[dgfred]

I believe they have more tape of the vehicle leaving or arriving... but that it/they don't help any more with the identification.

 

[Pipsissiway_Potts]

I agree with Arrin Stoner's theories on this crime, except I'm not so sure about the shooter's hair. I know why I immediately thought the perp was wearing a wig. The first reason was the loft and the uniformity of the hair. Most people do not have uniform hair. One side of the head might have more hair or be thinner on top, etc. Also, the top of the hair looks to be higher than the average person's hair would be. When you wear a wig, it's going to make the top of your head higher than your actual head. Even custom made wigs that conform to your head will sit higher than your natural hair, even if it's by a fraction. But normal "one size fits all" wigs are going to use a standard average for head shape and size, and the costume wigs seem to run a bit small and don't conform to your head perfectly, ending up with gaps between your scalp/hair and the lace foundation of the wig. Even the more expensive commercial wigs with a drawstring will not perfectly conform to your head, as almost no one has a perfectly shaped head. Just my opinion. It is certainly possible it really is the shooter's hair. Someone with a lot of experience styling hair could have styled it and that's why it looks unusual. Just to me, the hair had an unnatural look to it. I hope we will find out at some point. Didn't intend to write a dissertation on wigs, LOL, not an expert, just have some experience wearing costumes

 

[JnRyan]

I believe they have more tape of the vehicle leaving or arriving... but that it/they don't help any more with the identification.

Per the timeline on the family's web site the truck was seen afterwards on commercial CCTV, but was finally lost in a area with no video coverage. I'm betting, like you, that LE didn't learn any additional information. Perhaps only side view of the truck as it passed. Obviously, there were no stoplight cameras on that route.

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www.whokilledlizbarraza.com

 

[Pipsissiway_Potts]

Also meant to say that it doesn't move like real hair, unless it involves a lot of backcombing, hairspray and being handy with a curling iron. I have a hard time imagining someone spent that much time on it, that early in the morning... Just MHO

 

[girlhasnoname]

Happy to see renewed interest in this case. I thought the Paula Z was done especially well, and I do believe it it a crime that can and will be solved.

#Justice4Elizabeth

 

[Quiet Time]

Also meant to say that it doesn't move like real hair, unless it involves a lot of backcombing, hairspray and being handy with a curling iron. I have a hard time imagining someone spent that much time on it, that early in the morning... Just MHO

IMO, I agree, the hair did seem like a wig. That was my first impression, so I'm sticking with it.
It was so bad, it could have even been a wig for Halloween.

And, I feel it was male.

 

[arielilane]

IIRC, the truck was in fairly decent condition, both sides of the rear of the truck have the Pro-4x decal, no Pro-4X logo on the side of the truck, no roof rack (possibly removed) and fog lights. Still debating whether there is a TX sticker on the driver’s side front window. IMO and MOO

 

[LouLou74]

The Paula Zahn show is on my DVR and I hope to watch it tonight.

I agree though that the truck is at the center of all of this; however, if the killer did not own the truck, that could be harder to track down. Especially if they borrowed it from an acquaintance or someone not immediately related to them.

I keep going back to the black truck that was pulled over and questioned mere minutes after the murder and very close to the scene. Either this was the killer or it was one of the world's biggest coincidences IMO. I can't image they wouldn't have this person's name if they stopped them to talk to them. Just don't have any/enough evidence to charge them or even get a warrant perhaps? Knowing not a whole lot about the law, would "truck matching description of a murder close by" be enough cause to search this vehicle? If not, and if the driver didn't consent to a search, they could have had their costumer/wig hidden away on the floor, under a seat, or wherever.

BBM
Do we know more about this? Wouldn't there be a license plate number for sure on file somewhere? Or a dash cam recording?