TX TX - Elizabeth Barraza, 29, murdered setting up garage sale, Harris Co, Jan 2019 #5

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  • #101
I have read along for years, with no original thought in my head regarding this brutal murder of Ms. Barraza. Until today.

Liz's murder happened in January of 2019. The Nissan is a newer model, on the lot from it's arrival in 2018. I have seen talk of who could own or rent or hide this vehicle, however, how about a dealership employee? "Borrowed" from the lot, maybe even a planned transfer or sale out to another dealership/customer that same weekend?
Very possible an employee of a dealership. In the early/late 80's management would pick a different vehicle off the lot and drive it home each night. Not sure if a salesperson would be allowed same option but definitely worth looking into. moo
 
  • #102
The report (as shown in AS's video) shows case status "closed" is concerning. Does that mean the case is actually closed because LE know who killed Liz? Does LE need one more tip only? There is not much attention on this case asking for help which is puzzling. Why? Why is there no urgency to find the person(s) responsible for the brutal murder of Liz? Am I missing something here? There is not too much on MSM...

Liz's dad requested podcasters and TikTok'er assistance previously, and there was the Paula Zahn show, two interviews for the 4 year anniversary; however, not a lot going on for such a horrible murder, imo. Isn't Tomball worried about their safety?

Speculation and moo
 
  • #103
More speculation in regards to my last post from yesterday, on 5/4/2023.

In addition, S claims he watched the video 1 time of his wife’s murder. Me, a stranger watched it many many times.

So does that mean S only needed to watch video once in order to ID the killer? Did S provide LE with a name of the killer and once more information is given to LE linking killer to the crime there will be an arrest?

Again, all speculation, no facts in this post and MOO
 
  • #104
More speculation in regards to my last post from yesterday, on 5/4/2023.

In addition, S claims he watched the video 1 time of his wife’s murder. Me, a stranger watched it many many times.

So does that mean S only needed to watch video once in order to ID the killer? Did S provide LE with a name of the killer and once more information is given to LE linking killer to the crime there will be an arrest?

Again, all speculation, no facts in this post and MOO
I used to think well why would he only watch it once when everyone else has watched it multiple times? Then my husband died and I still felt that way. There is no video of my husbands death, thank god, but there’s medical reports and a police report. After reading those reports, I think I get it. I have read the police report twice and the medical report once. I don’t know if I need to read it multiple times, not exactly wanting to relive one of the worst moments of my life.

Now my opinion on S has not changed, just for the record.
 
  • #105
I’ve seen this case being compared to the Missy Bevers case but there is another case that in my opinion also has some chilling similarities. “The Case of the Killer Clown” just aired on 20/20. This took place in 1990. The perpetrator disguised in a clown costume shoots and kills Marlene Warren at her home using a basket of flowers and balloons as a distraction as her last words were “oh how pretty,” before being shot to death. For the longest time no one could determine the gender of the perp either…

If you’re unable to watch the 20/20 episode (I have YouTube TV), you can perform a Google search for an article. There are many shocking facts that come out in the case decades later. I highly recommend watching / reading about the case in its entirety.
 
  • #106
I’ve seen this case being compared to the Missy Bevers case but there is another case that in my opinion also has some chilling similarities. “The Case of the Killer Clown” just aired on 20/20. This took place in 1990. The perpetrator disguised in a clown costume shoots and kills Marlene Warren at her home using a basket of flowers and balloons as a distraction as her last words were “oh how pretty,” before being shot to death. For the longest time no one could determine the gender of the perp either…

If you’re unable to watch the 20/20 episode (I have YouTube TV), you can perform a Google search for an article. There are many shocking facts that come out in the case decades later. I highly recommend watching / reading about the case in its entirety.

I made a lengthy post about this in the Missy Bevers forum, using the clown killer as an example.

There was also an astronaut named Lisa Nowak who went through some extremely complicated measures with disguises and strange items to attempt to kill someone.

I can direct you to that post if you want.
 
  • #107
I’ve seen this case being compared to the Missy Bevers case but there is another case that in my opinion also has some chilling similarities. “The Case of the Killer Clown” just aired on 20/20. This took place in 1990. The perpetrator disguised in a clown costume shoots and kills Marlene Warren at her home using a basket of flowers and balloons as a distraction as her last words were “oh how pretty,” before being shot to death. For the longest time no one could determine the gender of the perp either…

If you’re unable to watch the 20/20 episode (I have YouTube TV), you can perform a Google search for an article. There are many shocking facts that come out in the case decades later. I highly recommend watching / reading about the case in its entirety.
Somewhere in an earlier thread someone mentioned this case and the similarity to Elizabeth's case, but I had forgotten about it. Thanks for the refresher as I need to hunt it down.
 
  • #108
Somewhere in an earlier thread someone mentioned this case and the similarity to Elizabeth's case, but I had forgotten about it. Thanks for the refresher as I need to hunt it down.

I think that was me.

Both ambushed early in the morning, in Texas, after advertising where they would be on social media.

There is a massive slew of people that think Missy’s killer was there to simply rob the place and happened to run into Missy. I don’t but that theory one bit, but there is plenty who do.

Also look up Kaitlyn Armstrong. A Texas woman who shot another woman similarly to how Liz was shot, was seen on door cams driving around the neighborhood, among many other similarities.
 
  • #109
IMO I don't think the same perp killed Missy (or any of the other cases mentioned as similar). Liz's killing just seems SO personal to me. Unless the same person also knew and had issues with the other women, I just don't see it. However, I could see someone wanting to kill Liz who heard about Missy's murder and took the idea of wearing a disguise from that. Just MOO
 
  • #110
It's entirely possible this was a fairly random killing done on a dare (yes, people are that crazy) ........

& Also it could be a person that felt slighted professionally by the victim. There are fairly toxic workplace conflicts that escalate to violence either at work or off site. You wonder why Human Resource managers are usually stressed out, this is why....
 
  • #111
I've mentioned previously that women tend to disguise (extreme costumes) when committing murder. I gave same examples as noted in above posts regarding MB and MW cases; however, I am still on the fence if Liz's murderer is male or female. Definitely a coward. imo
 
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The reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of those responsible is now up to $50,000.00.

If you have a tip, please call the Crime Stoppers of Houston Tip Line - all calls are completely anonymous. Only tips and calls DIRECTLY TO Crime Stoppers are anonymous and eligible for a cash reward.

+1 (713) 222-TIPS
 
  • #113
IMO I don't think the same perp killed Missy (or any of the other cases mentioned as similar). Liz's killing just seems SO personal to me. Unless the same person also knew and had issues with the other women, I just don't see it. However, I could see someone wanting to kill Liz who heard about Missy's murder and took the idea of wearing a disguise from that. Just MOO

I don’t think the murders are connected at all.

I look for patterns and similarities that may shed light on the motive and circumstances.

There’s a ton of other cases that unrelated to each other, share a central story, but have a TON of specific coincidences. Some of them being missing persons, many of the patriarchal murderers have some extremely eerie similarities, and the Beast of Jersey and Mr Cruel were close to carbon copies of each other but could not have been the same person.
 
  • #114
I don’t think the murders are connected at all.

I look for patterns and similarities that may shed light on the motive and circumstances.

There’s a ton of other cases that unrelated to each other, share a central story, but have a TON of specific coincidences. Some of them being missing persons, many of the patriarchal murderers have some extremely eerie similarities, and the Beast of Jersey and Mr Cruel were close to carbon copies of each other but could not have been the same person.
I agree, for a while I entertained the idea that a hired killer was using disguises to evade detection and killed Missy & Elizabeth. But Liz's killer seems so much more connected to her. I wouldn't be surprised if Liz's killer chose a disguise and unconnected vehicle after reading about Missy's murder.
 
  • #115
I agree, for a while I entertained the idea that a hired killer was using disguises to evade detection and killed Missy & Elizabeth. But Liz's killer seems so much more connected to her. I wouldn't be surprised if Liz's killer chose a disguise and unconnected vehicle after reading about Missy's murder.
I am not sold that Liz's killer is disguised.

The person in the video looks like a woman, around Liz's age, dressed to carry out a morning activity like walking the dog or smoking a cigarette.

The robe and Ugg style soft boots (among other things) makes me think its a high possibility.
 
  • #116
I’ve seen this case being compared to the Missy Bevers case but there is another case that in my opinion also has some chilling similarities. “The Case of the Killer Clown” just aired on 20/20. This took place in 1990. The perpetrator disguised in a clown costume shoots and kills Marlene Warren at her home using a basket of flowers and balloons as a distraction as her last words were “oh how pretty,” before being shot to death. For the longest time no one could determine the gender of the perp either…

If you’re unable to watch the 20/20 episode (I have YouTube TV), you can perform a Google search for an article. There are many shocking facts that come out in the case decades later. I highly recommend watching / reading about the case in its entirety.
I just watched this. A 1990 case that just came to a verdict last month. The prosecution's case with unsecured evidence bags and a "lost" file the defense kept asking for shows up the day of jury selection. So a plea deal is offered and with time served the person will be out in ~18 months?
 
  • #117

2 years ago this video was posted and here we are in May 2023 and still no arrest...at least not yet!

Justice for Liz and for her family!



New Clue in Unsolved Texas Garage Sale Murder Case of Elizabeth Barraza
01/22/2021 - Inside Edition New Clue in Unsolved Texas Garage Sale Murder Case of Elizabeth Barraza

NEWS
JANUARY 22, 2021
It’s been nearly two years since a Texas woman was shot dead while setting up a garage sale. Now, police have released a new video that her family hopes will help find her killer. In the early hours of Jan. 25, 2019, Elizabeth Barraza, 29, was in front of her home in Tomball, Texas setting up for the garage sale when a shadowy figure walked up. The killer shot her four times at point-blank range. The killer jumped into a pickup truck and quickly drove away. A new video provides a new clue.
 
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  • #118
I am not sold that Liz's killer is disguised.

The person in the video looks like a woman, around Liz's age, dressed to carry out a morning activity like walking the dog or smoking a cigarette.

The robe and Ugg style soft boots (among other things) makes me think its a high possibility.

In my mind I kind of split the difference on this issue. I think the clothes are not necessarily a disguise per se (depends on the killer's gender), but I DO think he/she is wearing a wig.

It's possible the killer is male--in which case yeah the clothes would be a disguise--but I think it's most likely a woman with much shorter and probably darker hair, wearing her normal clothes, but also a wig to temporarily mask her identity from Liz as she approaches.
 
  • #119
I don’t think the murders are connected at all.

I look for patterns and similarities that may shed light on the motive and circumstances.

There’s a ton of other cases that unrelated to each other, share a central story, but have a TON of specific coincidences. Some of them being missing persons, many of the patriarchal murderers have some extremely eerie similarities, and the Beast of Jersey and Mr Cruel were close to carbon copies of each other but could not have been the same person.
Yeah I don't think there's the slightest chance they're connected, and honestly I don't think they are very similar to one another either. To me, the only things they have in common is that there is video (which has nothing to do with the crimes themselves), and there might be disguise elements in both.

I've always thought Liz's murder was way more similar to Scott Ratigan's than to Missy Bevers', and even in that case they are not THAT similar. Some degree of identity concealment, at the victim's home, seemingly extremely personal, but that's really it, right?

ETA: I should add that Liz/Ratigan both have video and unclear gender of the murderer in common (although in Ratigan's case I am almost 100% sure the killer is male, and LE is too last I checked), but again, neither of those things have anything to do with the actual crimes.
 
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  • #120
IMO, I am wondering if Liz made someone extremely angry about something and that person took revenge? I know it’s been said she was kind and loving but we’re all human beings. Was there a disagreement about something or someone? I’m not putting any blame on Liz! I used to think it was a stalker old boyfriend but I am leaning more toward revenge. Speculation
 
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