TX TX - Elizabeth Barraza, 29, murdered setting up garage sale, Harris Co, Jan 2019 #5

[morf13]

Here's a story from 2020 of a woman in a Black Nissan Frontier that took off when police tried to pull her over for no reason and headed to Houston. No reason to think it's connected to Liz's case, just the fact it was a woman driving a Black Nissan who took off for no reason after a routine traffic stop I just thought was interesting.

 

[FromGermany1]

But the car was already in the neighbourhood earlier. It was scouting the place at 2 AM (and then the garage sale signs were already up) and pulled into the school parking lot at 06:47:50. We don't know where it was in between those times. (source: timeline)

At what time did Liz normally leave for work? I could not find that timestamp with my google skills atm.

The brief re-locating after the school parking lot stop is interesting as well: was it to do some prep, to retrive/leave something, to avoiding being seen by Sergio, to avoid being seen with Sergio, to have a chance to see Sergio leave, or simply being spooked by some cameras (did the school parking lot have some?).

Would be nice to know, where the SUV parked, when Liz bought her coffee-to-go. I found it much too dangerous for a woman, to buy some coffee early in the morning, when still dark. Too risky. But her murder happened a bit later and at her home ....

 

[rosesfromangels]

I would add FEAR.
Did Liz know something about someone and they were afraid it would be shared?

I keep gravitating to the motivation being that someone simply wanted her "out of the way".
If this motivation is accurate, it likely has something to do with jealousy and money.

This is just amateur opinion and speculation

 

[Duper's Delight]

I could not find anything at all about the results or an arrest in this shooting in Houston by a man driving a Black Nissan Frontier. Anyone here of this incident? Not saying it's connected to Liz, but any shootings by people in Black Nissan trucks in that area would be of interest

Yes, I know a little. 99% sure unrelated to LIZ (I always leave a 1% chance for anything: I've learned to never say never). The shooter was known by the victim. A black male that went by Trey. They had been arguing over this foot race for a month. Unsure if an arrest was made. Too many crimes in Houston for all of them to make the news. The victim died a month a later.
edit: added link twitter.com/houstonpolice/status/1413994756103983105

 

[Duper's Delight]

The one handed shooting has always left me wondering. Because most people with firearm experience shoot two handed. The shooter grazed Liz's neck with the first shot, was this due to inexperience? Nerves? Excitement?

Or was it someone ultra familiar with firearms and had practiced one handed enough they were comfortable shooting that way even in a high stress situation?

When was the gun caliber was first released by LE I read it as a 38 and thought ok why release that now? So what; but it is a .380. A lot more unique for a revolver.

Most revolvers that are MADE for a .380 caliber bullet are conceal carry handguns. These guns have a pull; it is likely it was nerves and the pull; the shooter corrected and hit spot on with the other shots.

Conceal carry owners do train to shot one handed.

 

[rosesfromangels]

When was the gun caliber was first released by LE I read it as a 38 and thought ok why release that now? So what; but it is a .380. A lot more unique for a revolver.

Most revolvers that are MADE for a .380 caliber bullet are conceal carry handguns. These guns have a pull; it is likely it was nerves and the pull; the shooter corrected and hit spot on with the other shots.

Conceal carry owners do train to shot one handed.

From the quick research I just did, it would seem that the .380 revolver is marketed (primarily) for women as conceal carry handguns. Feel free to correct me if this perception is wrong. If true, this might challenge my speculation (based on watching the video a few times) that the Perp is male.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[rosesfromangels]

Apologies if this has already been posted, and well known. The husband was in another relationship 1.5 years after his wife's murder? He is now remarried? WTH? I guess life goes on, but....wow. With the murder unsolved, I'd be a little uneasy if I were the new wife? Good grief, I just don't know what to think of this.

Widower opens up 4 years after wife was shot to death while setting up for garage sale at Tomball home

Sergio Barraza said he knows a lot of people consider him the prime suspect in her death but says he's done everything he can to help investigators solve the case.

www.khou.com

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[Duper's Delight]

From the quick research I just did, it would seem that the .380 revolver is marketed (primarily) for women as conceal carry handguns. Feel free to correct me if this perception is wrong. If true, this might challenge my speculation (based on watching the video a few times) that the Perp is male.

Amateur opinion and speculation

Yes and no. It could still be either male or female. And a true gun person would want every model especially a true .380 revolver.

I think most women like me prefer a revolver. You aim and shoot. I do not have the hand strength to actually say another type gun which you slide to .

They are small guns for personal protection and best for up close and personal shooting. You don’t have the range/power in these to shoot long distance. You are not doing drive byes with these.

A man might conceal on person in a boot etc.

However, there are other revolvers(38s) that have clips that you could insert to make a gun shoot a .380. They can be tempermental though.

Frustrating case…at the least if it is a true .380 conceal carry it would be a memorable gun. Tiny. Once a suspect is arrested someone would remember it; if it is there personal gun. I personally think the shooter is knowledgeable about guns by the choice of the weapon. Any higher caliber revolver there would be blood spatter or brain (sorry). As stated up thread no shell casing are left either by revolvers. I am no expert though so correctios welcome. There are a lot of gun posts way upthread.

Edited: it’s censoring my post I guess due to me naming a nine mm bang bang which you slide to engage bullet

 

[arielilane]

Yes, I know a little. 99% sure unrelated to LIZ (I always leave a 1% chance for anything: I've learned to never say never). The shooter was known by the victim. A black male that went by Trey. They had been arguing over this foot race for a month. Unsure if an arrest was made. Too many crimes in Houston for all of them to make the news. The victim died a month a later.
edit: added link twitter.com/houstonpolice/status/1413994756103983105

3 shot after argument outside of barbershop in northeast Houston, police say

Houston police are searching for a gunman who shot three people in northeast Houston Saturday afternoon.

www.click2houston.com

Thanks, @Duper's Delight, Linked article is same case as what you linked.

 

[arielilane]

Probably no link, but at this point, why overlook anything. It's worth LE to check out the 2 men arrested for allegedly stealing vehicles from Houston's airport. Who did they steal and sell to? moo

Two 22-year-old men wanted for arrest after allegedly stealing multiple vehicles from Houston’s airport garages | Houston Public Media

Joe Aguirre and Marco Castillo are both charged with aggregate theft exceeding $300,000 for allegedly stealing seven cars and trucks this year from the parking garages at Bush Intercontinental Airport and Hobby Airport.

www.houstonpublicmedia.org

 

[rosesfromangels]

Yes and no. It could still be either male or female. And a true gun person would want every model especially a true .380 revolver.

I think most women like me prefer a revolver. You aim and shoot. I do not have the hand strength to actually *advertiser censored* say another type gun which you slide to *advertiser censored*.

They are small guns for personal protection and best for up close and personal shooting. You don’t have the range/power in these to shoot long distance. You are not doing drive byes with these.

A man might conceal on person in a boot etc.

However, there are other revolvers(38s) that have clips that you could insert to make a gun shoot a .380. They can be tempermental though.

Frustrating case…at the least if it is a true .380 conceal carry it would be a memorable gun. Tiny. Once a suspect is arrested someone would remember it; if it is there personal gun. I personally think the shooter is knowledgeable about guns by the choice of the weapon. Any higher caliber revolver there would be blood spatter or brain (sorry). As stated up thread no shell casing are left either by revolvers. I am no expert though so correctios welcome. There are a lot of gun posts way upthread.

Edited: it’s censoring my post I guess due to me naming a nine mm bang bang which you slide to *advertiser censored* engage bullet

Thanks. I learned a lot from your post.
I agree the Perp was familiar with the weapon. They looked seasoned using it; almost perfunctory.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[FromGermany1]

IMO, there are many similarities to the case of Missy Bevers:

Killer is on a mission, seemingly has to fulfill an order.

Killer is in a striking disguise, not disclosing, if he is female or male (for years!!).

The killer appears on the surface in the early morning. Knows, when the victim will show up (and THAT they in any case will show up).

The husbands both have a strong alibi for that time in the morning of murder.
After the murder both of the husbands are the least impressed of all those left behind.
The husbands both are involved in a family business and have financial issues.

The night of the murder, hours before, the killer himself or an accomplice (or both) is cruising parking lots in the vicinity. One wonders, why they show up so very early. One wonders, what they do in their car for pastime until the killing.

The killer (by chance?) prefers the brand NISSAN: Missy= Nissan Altima; Liz= Nissan Frontier.
The killer gets each car managed without showing the license plates in a way, that they are readable.

The murder itself happens similar: an attack at close range.
The killer uses a gun.
The killer has to ensure, that the victim is 100% dead, and he does.
The killings happen at a location, where a short time later several people would appear and perhaps destroy the traces, unwillingly.
-.-.-
Did I forget important things?
-.-.-
BTW, in case Missy B. we saw stills of the surveillance video (parking lot). In the Nissan Altima we thought to recognize a blonde woman on the front seat or a big blonde dog (Retriever). We weren't sure. - My thought today is, that the blonde hair mane looked quite similar to Liz' killer's blonde hair mane. Should I include this ---> ?? Idk. I'm actually serious.

 

[Cryptic]

In my opinion, whatever the killer told her- whatever he/she was giving/showing Liz, was so shocking to her and such a gut punch, that for a second, she forgot she had a gun pointing at her and stepped forward to look at what they had because it was so powerful.
To me, that's a big clue

I think this is well said and telling. Your gripping summary implies that the matter was very personal to both the shooter- and the victim.

This could further eliminate a seething "Angry Alberta" from the neighborhood scenario. In this case, a victim's reaction could be centered on confusion (struggle to remember who Angry Alberta is, not understanding the significance of the "justification evidence" shown to them, struggling to remember what led to what etc.)

A mutually personal interaction between the victim and the assailant could indicate the following scenarios:

- Family: Clearly possible. But is also a small galaxy that could increase the chance of the police receiving workable information by now.

- Cosplay: A pretty big galaxy with a certain number of "high maintenance / in deep" types who derive alot of self esteem, status, friends and even chosen family from the cosplay world.

- On line lives: Also big, both the victim and her husband are said to of had very active on line lives.

- High School re-union: I believe that the victim's 10th year reunion had just passed.

 

[arielilane]

More spitballing as I am not an expert and will never claim to be.

I’m curious to know if LE did any measurements to determine the killer’s height? Liz and killer appeared to be around same height; however, driveway seemed to be on an incline. If their heights are substantially similar, I’d lean toward killer is female, but there are short men. I’ve thought the killer running away from the homicide appeared to be male.

It’s been stated Liz had no enemies, she was a nice person. Was Liz unaware ( or aware) of someone being jealous of her? A person who is having difficulty in their own life ... my see happy positive people as a threat. They begin to cause problems for the person as a way to deflect from their own issues. They are jealous of the person who appears to have it all.

Jealousy can cause hate and over time hostility toward the positive person. Did this person want to seek revenge toward Liz because of a seemingly perfect life? Did they create in their own “sick” head of being wronged by Liz because she talked about her life, or had a great work ethic? Did the person see Liz as a threat? Wanted Liz at of the way? Why?


Matter of opinion and speculation - no facts at all to this post!

The killer and all accomplices will be brought to justice.

 

[morf13]

I think this is well said and telling. Your gripping summary implies that the matter was very personal to both the shooter- and the victim.

This could further eliminate a seething "Angry Alberta" from the neighborhood scenario. In this case, a victim's reaction could be centered on confusion (struggle to remember who Angry Alberta is, not understanding the significance of the "justification evidence" shown to them, struggling to remember what led to what etc.)

A mutually personal interaction between the victim and the assailant could indicate the following scenarios:

- Family: Clearly possible. But is also a small galaxy that could increase the chance of the police receiving workable information by now.

- Cosplay: A pretty big galaxy with a certain number of "high maintenance / in deep" types who derive alot of self esteem, status, friends and even chosen family from the cosplay world.

- On line lives: Also big, both the victim and her husband are said to of had very active on line lives.

- High School re-union: I believe that the victim's 10th year reunion had just passed.

Maybe Liz was shocked that it was something so minor, and not even something big, that she couldn't even fathom it was happening. Then again, it could have also been something major that was beyond belief. Either way, I think it clearly shocked her.

 

[ilovewings]

Maybe Liz was shocked that it was something so minor, and not even something big, that she couldn't even fathom it was happening. Then again, it could have also been something major that was beyond belief. Either way, I think it clearly shocked her.

She would have been stunned for the few seconds she had time to process what was actually happening before she was actually shot.

 

[arielilane]

Curious if geofencing used in Liz’s case, which could disclose a record of who is in the area of a crime scene? Can geofencing pick up a burner phone? moo

 

[FromGermany1]

More spitballing as I am not an expert and will never claim to be.

I’m curious to know if LE did any measurements to determine the killer’s height? Liz and killer appeared to be around same height; however, driveway seemed to be on an incline. If their heights are substantially similar, I’d lean toward killer is female, but there are short men. I’ve thought the killer running away from the homicide appeared to be male.

It’s been stated Liz had no enemies, she was a nice person. Was Liz unaware ( or aware) of someone being jealous of her? A person who is having difficulty in their own life ... my see happy positive people as a threat. They begin to cause problems for the person as a way to deflect from their own issues. They are jealous of the person who appears to have it all.

Jealousy can cause hate and over time hostility toward the positive person. Did this person want to seek revenge toward Liz because of a seemingly perfect life? Did they create in their own “sick” head of being wronged by Liz because she talked about her life, or had a great work ethic? Did the person see Liz as a threat? Wanted Liz at of the way? Why?


Matter of opinion and speculation - no facts at all to this post!

The killer and all accomplices will be brought to justice.

If Liz seemed to be too positive and her life being too positive, the shock could have been a photo of something extremely negative, Liz didn't know about. It may have been a fateful photo of husband S (or even a tiny part of a video, one moving picture perhaps). Though why murder LIZ, after her life was shown to her to be in shards?

 

[Duper's Delight]

Curious if geofencing used in Liz’s case, which could disclose a record of who is in the area of a crime scene? Can geofencing pick up a burner phone? moo

Yes, if the phone has used a google based application in the area at the time the warrant lists. Geofencing will provide data for any device that has used google. GOOGLE is the only known company to comply with these warrants.

A geofence warrant would place the device at the scene. In the case of a burner phone the police would still need to identify the user of that device.

 

[iamnotagolem]

IMO, there are many similarities to the case of Missy Bevers:

Killer is on a mission, seemingly has to fulfill an order.

Killer is in a striking disguise, not disclosing, if he is female or male (for years!!).

The killer appears on the surface in the early morning. Knows, when the victim will show up (and THAT they in any case will show up).

The husbands both have a strong alibi for that time in the morning of murder.
After the murder both of the husbands are the least impressed of all those left behind.
The husbands both are involved in a family business and have financial issues.

The night of the murder, hours before, the killer himself or an accomplice (or both) is cruising parking lots in the vicinity. One wonders, why they show up so very early. One wonders, what they do in their car for pastime until the killing.

The killer (by chance?) prefers the brand NISSAN: Missy= Nissan Altima; Liz= Nissan Frontier.
The killer gets each car managed without showing the license plates in a way, that they are readable.

The murder itself happens similar: an attack at close range.
The killer uses a gun.
The killer has to ensure, that the victim is 100% dead, and he does.
The killings happen at a location, where a short time later several people would appear and perhaps destroy the traces, unwillingly.
-.-.-
Did I forget important things?
-.-.-
BTW, in case Missy B. we saw stills of the surveillance video (parking lot). In the Nissan Altima we thought to recognize a blonde woman on the front seat or a big blonde dog (Retriever). We weren't sure. - My thought today is, that the blonde hair mane looked quite similar to Liz' killer's blonde hair mane. Should I include this ---> ?? Idk. I'm actually serious.

For a while I considered a hired killer for both cases because of so many odd similarities. But then dismissed it in favor of Liz’s killer basically copied the blueprint from Missy’s killer.

I feel the 4 minute arrival after S left was so intentional in establishing an alibi for S. Imagine if the killer had arrived 10 minutes later….we would be having very different discussions, so much speculation about S pulling the trigger. The 4 minute window gave him a solid alibi.