TX TX - Elizabeth Barraza, 29, murdered setting up garage sale, Harris Co, Jan 2019 #6

[fridaybaker]

Just want to say thank you to Arielilane for working so hard to keep interest going in this case. Always posting something, be it specific questions, updates, reposting reward, etc. You have really worked tirelessly to keep people thinking about it!

 

[cckp72]

It appears the killer was very familiar with the neighborhood? The planning of the crime appeared precise -- the time impeccable -- knew not only the Barraza’s schedule, but the logistics of the neighborhood -- did they know that a neighbor would usually return home early morning after a night of work? Did they know the usual time a school bus would drive by the Barraza's street?

And what about the usual cars that would drive by the house each morning? Or a neighbor walking his dog?
Typical everyday things, which it appears the killer may have known about. Killer appeared to know the crime had to be executed at that precise moment.

Who would know all of that? Who is the mastermind behind the horrific execution of Liz Barraza?

All speculation -- no facts

Who other than Liz and Sergio had access to the Barazza's ring camera ?

On one YT video I watched, it was speculated that a 3rd party had access to programming, watching the videos, talking through it etc.

If that is true, then a 3rd party would have been able to monitor the neighbourhood to know all these particulars you mentioned. The 3rd party would also likely be a close friend or relative who would likely also have known about the garage sale ahead of time.

 

[skoogmagoo]

Well, I wonder if the sale was a great opportunity, but the rush was about killing Liz before she and Sergio would depart for the anniversary trip.

If so, why could it matter? What happens when people are on an anniversary vacation? One though is obvious. A young couple, 5 years together, vacation, she is close to 30, the perfect situation for, say, family planning. And if they, indeed, return pregnant, and the person is vested into killing Liz, it would be a different kind of killing in the state of TX.
(I am not thinking this is what the Bs were thinking of, but it is what often happens, and hence, it could explain the fear and the haste of the killer).

Otherwise, why else could it be important to do it before their 5-year anniversary? What changes after 5 years of marriage? Any ideas?

What happens after 5 years of marriage? A possible change in the pre-nup?

 

[Sjöberg]

Otherwise, why else could it be important to do it before their 5-year anniversary? What changes after 5 years of marriage? Any ideas?

The only kinda stupid thought I had is if that was an ex of either S or E who had been together with them for 4 years (at least in their head), then they might have simply wanted to kill her before they become "the longest" partner.
But I don't really think it's anything like that - IMO the timing was probably not connected to the trip and probably even not connected to the garage sale, but stemmed from the schedule of the culprit moreso than the schedule of the victim.

 

[FromGermany1]

What happens after 5 years of marriage? A possible change in the pre-nup?

Do we know, when the break-in into the B's appartment took place and when the shooting into the window (?) of Liz' workplace happened? Did these incidents have anything to do with the anniversary of their wedding?

 

[arielilane]

Who other than Liz and Sergio had access to the Barazza's ring camera ?

On one YT video I watched, it was speculated that a 3rd party had access to programming, watching the videos, talking through it etc.

If that is true, then a 3rd party would have been able to monitor the neighbourhood to know all these particulars you mentioned. The 3rd party would also likely be a close friend or relative who would likely also have known about the garage sale ahead of time.

I've been curious about this too, it's something to think about if someone else had access to the Barraza's Nest cam. moo

 

[ilovewings]

Just want to say thank you to Arielilane for working so hard to keep interest going in this case. Always posting something, be it specific questions, updates, reposting reward, etc. You have really worked tirelessly to keep people thinking about it!

Ditto- Thank you for keeping this thread alive with information---

 

[arielilane]

This has weighed on me for some time. I believe I’ve mentioned it before, however, I dont recall if I've already said it or not.

Regarding AS video -- bonus footage (posted on page one of this thread) It appears Liz nonchalantly leaves her home and gets in her car, places the Starbucks order (?) backs out of the driveway and drives away… heads to Starbucks. She returns home about 7 minutes later, drives back by the house, and then parks on the street in front of her house.

It’s speculative, that Liz’s doesnt park her car on the driveway because of the garage sale, in addition, she is unable to get in the garage because the sale is being (already) set up. Treadmill, table, etc have their places already.

(How is it that this video was obtained by AS???)

The whole point of this long boring post is “security” … I too am also a cautious person, I pay attention to my surroundings-- I wouldn’t have been as brave as LB was leaving the house early morning when it’s still dark, going to any shop, getting out of car from the street and walking up to the front door! Everyone is different, but it bothers me since she supposedly so cautious. That is why my automatic garage door opener is perfect, and I always park in the garage, so I can come and go via the garage (just like it was stated about Liz)… I supposed the garage sale was the exception...

I know there are things that we will change... up

So what changed? Other than the garage sale already being set up on the driveway?
Why was the garage sale important to have that day and the subsequent day? Or was it?

Did someone talk her into having the last minute garage sale?
It didn’t appear that there was anything of value that would amount to much money being made in a day or two? Of course, items sold will add up.

Speculation post, my thoughts only

 

[fridaybaker]

Well, this is the problem I have about SB and LB being very "cautious" and "security conscious". Liz was going to be outside alone, albeit for a very short time but, still, outside alone before light. Yes, people are getting up to go to work, but it can be reasonably assumed that most everyone will know that the neighborhood will be very quiet at that hour, and very likely that absolutely no one would be near her.

Perhaps life experience colors our perceptions, but I walk very, very quickly the few steps to my vehicle in those hours. And still don't like it. Liz, though, was going to be all alone, starting her garage sale. She was so vulnerable. I would have felt it. And I wouldn't have done it. If my husband REALLY couldn't wait an extra half hour to go into work, I'd simply wait inside the house until full light and the neighborhood was abuz with activity to get the sale going.

 

[Sjöberg]

The whole point of this long boring post is “security” … I too am also a cautious person, I pay attention to my surroundings-- I wouldn’t have been as brave as LB was leaving the house early morning when it’s still dark, going to any shop, getting out of car from the street and walking up to the front door! Everyone is different, but it bothers me since she supposedly so cautious.

Almost any female who is not very negligent is called cautious by some family or friends, imo. We have to be to stay alive. It hardy means anything more than "not taking more risks than generally approved in her social class" - be it "locking the doors" or "not hanging out with drug addicts" or "practising safe sex when engaged in escort work". Meaning "not the person these things happen to".

Especially the parents. Is there any "good girl" who tells her parents about the unsafe things you do? "Yeah, mum, I sometimes jog in the dark alone, thanks for asking, no biggie?", "Yes, mum, I actually once did drugs with strangers at that college party?". I never take family comments about anyones character at face value, especially if they are not living together with the kid in question any more. For all my mum knows I sleep 8 hours every night and never forget my meds.

 

[CrimeTheorist]

Were any of the garage sale items really heavy? She might not have been able to get them outside by herself and then didn't want to leave them there for someone to take after SB put them out. I would have preferred to wait until it was light out to put the items out and if anything was too heavy I would just not sell it.

 

[Ajs1004]

Were any of the garage sale items really heavy? She might not have been able to get them outside by herself and then didn't want to leave them there for someone to take after SB put them out. I would have preferred to wait until it was light out to put the items out and if anything was too heavy I would just not sell it.

Yeah there was a treadmill.

 

[arielilane]

Almost any female who is not very negligent is called cautious by some family or friends, imo. We have to be to stay alive. It hardy means anything more than "not taking more risks than generally approved in her social class" - be it "locking the doors" or "not hanging out with drug addicts" or "practising safe sex when engaged in escort work". Meaning "not the person these things happen to".

Especially the parents. Is there any "good girl" who tells her parents about the unsafe things you do? "Yeah, mum, I sometimes jog in the dark alone, thanks for asking, no biggie?", "Yes, mum, I actually once did drugs with strangers at that college party?". I never take family comments about anyones character at face value, especially if they are not living together with the kid in question any more. For all my mum knows I sleep 8 hours every night and never forget my meds.

I get it, cautious person here has been known on more than one occasion to be on secluded trails but anyway again, I get it.

 

[Notascreenname]

If their trip was preplanned then why the urgent, sudden, last minute need for extra cash? Liz was a very sensible person, if she didn't have enough spending money she surely would have cancelled the trip so close to departing for it.

Or maybe that's the point of garage sales? I'm not American therefore am not accustomed. Do people usually hold spur of the moment garage sales? Don't you need time to sort out what to sell?

 

[iamnotagolem]

If their trip was preplanned then why the urgent, sudden, last minute need for extra cash? Liz was a very sensible person, if she didn't have enough spending money she surely would have cancelled the trip so close to departing for it.

Or maybe that's the point of garage sales? I'm not American therefore am not accustomed. Do people usually hold spur of the moment garage sales? Don't you need time to sort out what to sell?

Her mom said in an interview that all of their trips were pre-paid and she already had a lot of spending money set aside for this trip. I agree, the last minute garage sale seems quite odd.

I am not someone who loves garage sales, but when I do have one it's to get rid of a lot of stuff at once. But it is much more effective to host the garage sale AND post any big ticket items on Facebook. I think 90% of the big stuff I sold was from people seeing it on FB then coming to the sale or buying it from FB and asking me to hold it.

 

[arielilane]

Who Killed Liz Barraza

A website about Liz Nuelle Barraza and the details around her brutal murder on January 25, 2019 at the hands of a coward.

www.whokilledlizbarraza.com

The reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of those responsible is now up to $50,000.00.

If you have a tip, please call the Crime Stoppers of Houston Tip Line - all calls are completely anonymous. Only tips and calls DIRECTLY TO Crime Stoppers are anonymous and eligible for a cash reward.

+1 (713) 222-TIPS (8477)



or the Harris County Sheriff’s Office at (713) 221-6000

 

[fridaybaker]

Her mom said in an interview that all of their trips were pre-paid and she already had a lot of spending money set aside for this trip. I agree, the last minute garage sale seems quite odd.

I am not someone who loves garage sales, but when I do have one it's to get rid of a lot of stuff at once. But it is much more effective to host the garage sale AND post any big ticket items on Facebook. I think 90% of the big stuff I sold was from people seeing it on FB then coming to the sale or buying it from FB and asking me to hold it.

This is such a varying thing among people. I've never in my life had a garage sale, and I'd rather have needles in my eyeballs than do one. However, there are people who have them virtually all the time. They figure they could buy this, that, or the other thing if they only had a few more bucks, and gather together a few things they find around the house, put an ad in wherever people put ads in these days and, voila: It's garage sale day!

I really don't think anything of Liz having a garage sale in the few days before their vacation, even if they'd already saved up a lot beforehand. I think there are just many people out there who figure: "Why not get rid of the few things we have hanging around that we don't use anymore and get some extra bucks for our trip. We can have a $$$$$ meal instead of a $$$$ on the last night. Besides, I have plenty of vacay days accrued...." Anyway, just my two pennies.

 

[arielilane]

Someone knows something... do the right thing and make the call.

Who Killed Liz Barraza

A website about Liz Nuelle Barraza and the details around her brutal murder on January 25, 2019 at the hands of a coward.

www.whokilledlizbarraza.com

The reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of those responsible is now up to $50,000.00.

If you have a tip, please call the Crime Stoppers of Houston Tip Line - all calls are completely anonymous. Only tips and calls DIRECTLY TO Crime Stoppers are anonymous and eligible for a cash reward.

+1 (713) 222-TIPS (8477)



or the Harris County Sheriff’s Office at (713) 221-6000

 

[Sjöberg]

I really don't think anything of Liz having a garage sale in the few days before their vacation, even if they'd already saved up a lot beforehand. I think there are just many people out there who figure: "Why not get rid of the few things we have hanging around that we don't use anymore and get some extra bucks for our trip.

I never really understood that, but this year it clicked after I realized I did a similar thing before my own trip. Garage sales are not a thing here, but I had a few items for sale at a second hand store, so last night before the trip I went there to collect money for the sold items and also dropped off a few last items I had forgotten the pervious time. Just to "have it over with" before the trip - the few extra bucks in cash were a bonus.
So just an extra aspect. If she had been thinking about selling a few more items for a while, then it really does not surprise me that she tried to squeeze it in before the trip.

 

[arielilane]

One part of this case I thought was strange was how the killer drives by to see if Elizabeth Barraza is there before committing the murder. It is like they do not want to park in the area to watch.

Why did the killer not just park a few houses down and wait for Sergio's white van to pull out of the driveway? Then they could have simply pulled up to the Barraza house and got out quickly to commit the murder. We need to remember the murder happened right about the same time as when Elizabeth Barraza would normally be walking to her car to get in and go to work. She took off January 25th for the garage sale. This cannot take more than 10-20 seconds from the front door to her car.

One interesting point is how if the killer had done what I thought they would do, they could have murdered Elizabeth Barraza earlier either when she left to go to Starbucks or when she arrived back from Starbucks and parked her car on the street in front of the house. According to footage she arrived back from Starbucks at 6:18 am. Where was the killer?

All intriguing questions. Thought it's interesting that the killer does not want to park in the area to watch.

-- Someone in the neighborhood may recognize the truck?
-- Does the killer know about the surveillance cameras in the neighborhood?
-- The truck is moving at all times with the exception of killing Liz.

Regarding your second paragraph: Did the killer want to wait until the biggest threat is gone before killing Liz? Of course that would be S. Additionally, my understanding is that Liz would normally part her vehicle in the garage. To speculate, her vehicle was parked outside that fateful morning because of the impending garage sale.

In regards to your third paragraph: Where was the killer?

-- Is the killer picking up an accomplice?

All speculation, my thoughts only...

The timing of the killing is impeccable - is it a clue?