TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #10

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  • #301
I don't think it is leaning more toward her leaving...I can't imagine family lying at this late date unless something terrible happened. I think criminal investigation is going to be a term we hear very soon.

And if they are talking about SA, that would mean he is still talking to them, which is doubtful with an attorney.
 
  • #302
I don't think it is leaning more toward her leaving...I can't imagine family lying at this late date unless something terrible happened. I think criminal investigation is going to be a term we hear very soon.

And if they are talking about SA, that would mean he is still talking to them, which is doubtful with an attorney.

Thank you!
 
  • #303
Yeah, but I was talking about this bit:

"The family has not been forthcoming in their discernment of the truth," added Dean.

BBM - Which family and sometimes The Truth and LE's Truth are not the same thing.
 
  • #304
I don't think Billie and Clint are lying about anything. To the Locals on here what have you heard on the dad's GF? Not much has been said about her.

After this latest article, I'm not sure who is lying. All I know is there is a missing little girl, and someone in the family is still lying, or maybe more than one somebody. Since I don't know any of these people, me choosing sides and saying who I believe or not is not going to bring this child home. LE says there is a problem with the family and that's good enough for me.........
 
  • #305
BBM - Which family and sometimes The Truth and LE's Truth are not the same thing.

I trust the FBI and the Texas Rangers. They have only one interest, finding H. The story that's unfolding may upset some, but if it's true, it's true.
 
  • #306
Well if stories are still changing, then someone is or was lying, no two ways about that.
 
  • #307
Wow. A little girl is somewhere out there and there are individuals who are not being truthful. :banghead:
 
  • #308
Wow. A little girl is somewhere out there and there are individuals who are not being truthful. :banghead:

individuals in her family...
 
  • #309
you're right clu - I forgot all about SA lawyering up. So it can't be him whose stories are changing. He ain't talking.
 
  • #310
Investigators say one of their biggest obstacles right now in tracking down 13-year-old Hailey Dunn has been the family and friends of the missing Colorado City girl.

"The family has not been forthcoming in their discernment of the truth," added Dean.

Dean and City Manager Pete Kampfer did reveal that a new witness has come forward that claims to have spotted Hailey walking with two other girls near the time of her reported disappearance.

Oh my ... Hailey where are you. Where could you possibly be? And why would stories still be changing at this time unless something is trying to be covered up. And Sparky thinks Hailey is alive.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=329616
 
  • #311
Orb, I just don't see Dad being involved at all, but what I do find interesting is that with all the drama about the poloygraphs Dad is still willing to take one, actually seems to want to take one. Now if I'm him and I think there is ANYTHING wrong with the poly's, I'm not about to keep volunteering to take one. So I have to wonder if he thinks there is a reason for the others failing..................................

I wonder if he does smoke pot and that would hold off LTD. I read somewhere (don't take me at my word) that it take 30 days to get out of your system.:waitasec:

But after all the talk of ltd in this case I wouldn't take one a less it was a private one.
 
  • #312
And I'm going to say this......if she is still hiding somewhere, this was something that had been coming for awhile. There must have been some serious arguing going on there. To run away and hide this good was not a spur of the moment thing.

I agree with you, this would take some planning and some hardcore loyalty that I just don't think 13 year olds possess. (I could be wrong). I also realize that it has been 12 nights now, if she is somewhere with people 17 and under that is one thing. Are these 17 year olds paying for food, clothing and shelter? At some point HD is going to have to come up with some cash. Now if she is with someone 18 who is a legal adult, in MOO this is an abduction no matter if she went willingly...she is 13 years old. JMOO of course.
 
  • #313
http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/06/helicopter-being-used-search-missing-colorado-city/

David Dunn, Haley’s brother, said Thursday he did not know Adkins well.


Now BD said that she dated SA for 2.5 years before SA moved in with her.
3 years SA was in DD life and he says he did not know SA well????
What's that all about?
Were the children not home much?
Was SA really not in their lives?
Did SA not want to be around the kids?
Something is wrong there!

Or, more likely...did the kids not want to be around SA? There have been several sources (credible or not) that have indicated that HD did not like SA. If you look at his new my space photo with the whole family sitting in front of the fireplace, HD's body language speaks volumes to me -- distancing herself. Some of the comments that Clint made (on NG, I think) about how HD could live with him when she comes home speak volumes, too. Kids may have been doing their best to avoid a situation that they did not like. If true, the Byerly woman in the recent article's comments about HD staying with them and with DD not being home overnight the night before might mean that they preferred to stay at friends' houses than to be in the house with SA and mom.

If BD and SA were all chummy and such when the kids were around, it would possibly make the kids uncomfortable. A 16 year old boy and a 25 year old 'wannabee stepdad' probably don't mix very well. JMO, of course.
 
  • #314
Investigators say one of their biggest obstacles right now in tracking down 13-year-old Hailey Dunn has been the family and friends of the missing Colorado City girl.

"The family has not been forthcoming in their discernment of the truth," added Dean.


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=329616

That right there. That is what I have been thinking was going on..........and it makes me go WTH!

I think his use of the word "discernment" is interesting. Discernment is how well you can figure out the truth in an unclear situation. I take it as family members having an idea about what may be going on but not wanting to disclose their thoughts to LE for some reason.
 
  • #315
I am remembering when I was a young teen, if I intended to run away it would NOT have been to someone's house in the same town... I would have run to another town, as far away as possible.
I am very bothered by this new info, but I am also reminded of that old saying, that things are not always as they seem at first.
As to the two young girls who may have info, maybe they mentioned it to other friends, or their parents and the parents are reluctant to get them involved. LE needs to go to them and question them with their parents present, instead of waiting for them to come forward. (Unless they are not sure who they are.) But they can't "go get them" as was suggested... they haven't broken any laws, and they are probably minors. They can request that they come to the station voluntarily to talk.
 
  • #316
No word?:(

I hope LE is aware of what SA's job was. He could have hid her in a million different well heads. :(

Maybe bio dad is not truthful, he could have said she never showed up when actually she did. He seemed to be making good money, his x wife making next to nothing now, so its possible she took him to court for more child support. I am starting to look at bio dad a little closer, we could have over looked something.

What makes you think Hailey's dad was making good money?

My understanding is that he is living in section 8 housing, or whatever it is called there. Income based. He doesn't have a vehicle that works. I am not even sure he has a job at the moment... and he has a new baby.

I don't believe that after what they have done to remain civil for their children... that either one would take the other to court. I also think we would have heard about it by now.

But see here is the thing......we don't know what all has transpired between these people. What if there were fingers being pointed at this "friend" because SA said she was going there? Was there maybe bad blood between them even before this? WE DON'T KNOW, there could be many reasons for the reactions of the friend and her mom......does not mean they had ANYTHING to do with this.

MB's Mom wasn't happy because her daughter was roaming the streets when she spent the night at Hailey's. MB's Mom has never met Hailey's Mom. The first time she saw her was on Nancy Grace.

IF MB's Mom had met Hailey's Mom before her daughter spent the night there someone may have said "the kids are allowed to do whatever they want." Or, "the kids will be home alone because I work nights."

I absolutely cannot stand a certain extended family member of mine, by marriage only. Wouldn't shed a tear if she died tomorrow, she has truly screwed me over in every way possible. We go to family functions after she leaves and skip them if we can't avoid her. She is irresponsible, irrational, impulsive and unreasonable. All of which put her child in danger.

But if her CHILD went missing (which is not out of the realm of possibility unfortunately) I would be there FIRST one driving the 6 hours to be there assisting. I would be the first one calling the media, arranging for other people to bring food, calling TES, calling Mark Klaas, calling Nancy Grace... and of course posting it here. Though I think they'd return the child before I finished making my phone calls... the babysitters all do. :innocent:

I don't care if someone has slept with your husband, called you bad names, told you that you are a bad mother, or not supervised your child properly. When there is a missing child you put that all aside and do whatever you can to help. Especially when that missing child is your child's best friend. :waitasec:
 
  • #317
Is there a 'trusted' adult in Hailey's life outside of the adults in her community?
 
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I really did *not* want this to be another Croslin/Cummings-type fiasco. :(
 
  • #320
"The story of some of the key players continues to change even as recently as last night," said Senior Texas DPS Trooper Sparky Dean. "It's very frustrating for law enforcement."

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=329616


Some are assuming by "key player", it is referring to BD, CD, or SA. But do we really know who the key players are? I would think the list would include quite a few individuals....DD,CD's GF, MB, MB's mother, neighbor dude, and what about the extended family that was poly'd? Plus, there could be more that we are unaware of. I really tend to want to give those three most obvious the benefit of the doubt. I honestly feel that they had nothing to do with any of this.

And what does "discernment of the truth" mean anyway?
 
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