TX TX - Huntsville, 'Walker County Jane Doe', WhtFem 14-16, 91UFTX, Nov'80 #2 *NAME NOT RELEASED*

[Sweetluv]

If our victim is on the young side, at that age, your not so concerned with your attire being too hot for the weather or nylons not going together with jeans. Its more about appearance and how you look. I was always intrigued though that nylons were used to strangle her......just like a blunt object was used and not a male (part). The theory of a woman killer is interesting.
Do we know if the waitress was ever shown her autopsy photo to ever confirm that was def the girl she seen and talked to?

 

[Finders]

Do we know that they were her panty hose? The killer could have had them in his vehicle, maybe he was a burglar that used them for break ins.

 

[carbuff]

I didn't like wearing nylons under jeans for the same reason I don't like spanks, they don't slide but stick to the fabric. Or have friction, not sure how to describe it, really, but I found it uncomfortable.

You're perfectly right about the comfort, but comfort wasn't the issue, appearance was.

 

[Alleykins]

You're perfectly right about the comfort, but comfort wasn't the issue, appearance was.

LOL!!

 

[Paul B.]

Carl says the witnesses were shown the body, yes.

 

[cvaldez1975]

IIRK, the use of DNA as a forensic tool was rather sci-fi in 1980, and *probably* not what a trucker at the time would consider would lead back to him... DNA profiling began about 1983-84, and the first conviction based on DNA occurred in 1988 (the Colin Pitchfork case).

im assuming it was for the mess factor.

 

[sonz82]

There's a photo of a girl posted on wcjds Facebook page, but the poster didn't share a name or links, anyone know who she is?
Her lips, especially her top lip and nose are spot on.

 

[sunnynz]

There's a photo of a girl posted on wcjds Facebook page, but the poster didn't share a name or links, anyone know who she is?
Her lips, especially her top lip and nose are spot on.

Are you talking about the side by side with Tammy Young? If you search this thread there was talk of her a while back.

 

[proctorelites]

Are you talking about the side by side with Tammy Young? If you search this thread there was talk of her a while back.

I actually screenshot a pic someone submitted in a FB comment on WCJD FB. I really thought it was WCJD. But @CarlK90245 wouldve been all over that long before I scrolled & noticed the pic. I'm hunting Tammy Young you mention above & can't find a listing. Where is she listed? I've read this thread since the beginning but do not remember her for some reason..of course the last thread was 200+ pages and I may have missed something or forgotten something among the way.

 

[CCJD]

I'm hunting Tammy Young you mention above & can't find a listing. Where is she listed? I've read this thread since the beginning but do not remember her for some reason..of course the last thread was 200+ pages and I may have missed something or forgotten something among the way.

RSBM

I think this is what you're looking for on this thread. The pic shows up on page 5 (scroll down) and then page 6 starts off saying the name attached to the pic is Tammy Young.
TX - TX - Huntsville, 'Walker County Jane Doe' WhtFem 91UFTX, 14-16, Nov'80 *GRAPHIC* #2

 

[sonz82]

Are you talking about the side by side with Tammy Young? If you search this thread there was talk of her a while back.

I'm not sure, I'll have to read back. Not heard of her before.
This is tammy?

 

[Alleykins]

I'm not sure, I'll have to read back. Not heard of her before.
This is tammy?

I'm fairly certain the picture of the girl next to CarlK's recon is Joyce McLain from Maine, who was murdered, not missing. She was found shortly after she was killed. Her murderer was brought to justice recently.
Maine’s high court rejects appeal by teenager’s killer in 1980 cold case

 

[carbuff]

I did some searching for Tammy Young when the photo was brought up. Unfortunately it's such a common name I didn't get anywhere, but what I did find was pretty suggestive and I hope LE took a look into it. Or somebody with an account at a peoplefinder/background check sort of place.

 

[natureaker]

Here's that side by side of WCJD and Tammy Young that was shown around page 5

 

[Adrian_Almost_Sleuth]

Wait, is this Tammy Young missing?

 

[sonz82]

That does look like Joyce. I wonder why someone would do a side by side of a murdered ,not missing girl. Sigh.

I'll do some research and see what I can find on tammy young.

 

[detective24-7]

Here's that side by side of WCJD and Tammy Young that was shown around page 5

I do see the resemblance. The nose and overall face shape resemble each other but the more I look at it, the one thing that makes me think it's not WCJD is her chin isn't as short as WCJD. The jaw/chin throw it off to me.

 

[Nell1212]

Was the bag the waitress saw her carrying ever found? I apologize if I missed this information in the thread. It's possible that the pantyhose were hers, but kept in her bag rather than worn under her jeans. If the bag was found, the other items could suggest if the pantyhose were hers (like a skirt or a dress she would've worn them under.)

 

[carbuff]

Wait, is this Tammy Young missing?

In my digging around, I came to the conclusion that she wasn't. But as I said it's a common name, and without a birthdate or other information, I don't really have more than a guess.

 

[booghawk]

I do see the resemblance. The nose and overall face shape resemble each other but the more I look at it, the one thing that makes me think it's not WCJD is her chin isn't as short as WCJD. The jaw/chin throw it off to me.

Chins are hard to depict in recons sometimes because the artist has to compensate for the post mortem slack jaw. If you look at a lot of recons beside the actual MP after identification, the chins are frequently off.