Identified! TX - Huntsville, 'Walker County Jane Doe', WhtFem 14-16, 91UFTX, Nov'80 Sherry Ann Jarvis

[carbuff]

Looking at the PM photo, I would have thought her lower face, especially the chin, was a lot smaller than that.

 

[Still_Seek_Answers]

I do not like the new photo. I hate it when they start playing with peoples hair color, for one. Also her hair was obviously in a completely different style. I know they do that to give people more idea's of how she may have looked......but seriously.....the hairstyle on this pic is horrible.

It has been more like 6 months on Yvette. The first time I sent her in to Tony Deacon of Norfolk & Suffolk Major Investigation Team was January 14th. The last time I heard anything was June 18th, and all that said was : Hi Annie – thank you for flagging this case. We have been liaising with Texan colleagues on the similarities.



Tony Deacon

So that doesn't say much, but apparently they are still working on it.

 

[Lyssav]

Looking at the PM photo, I would have thought her lower face, especially the chin, was a lot smaller than that.

I agree, when I saw this recon I had to do a double take and make sure it was WCJD. The postmortem photos show- IMO a very tiny chin; and the recon makes it look longer and much more broad. I don't think it is the most accurate recon as it doesn't depict her dainty features well

 

[Lyssav]

I do not like the new photo. I hate it when they start playing with peoples hair color, for one. Also her hair was obviously in a completely different style. I know they do that to give people more idea's of how she may have looked......but seriously.....the hairstyle on this pic is horrible.

It has been more like 6 months on Yvette. The first time I sent her in to Tony Deacon of Norfolk & Suffolk Major Investigation Team was January 14th. The last time I heard anything was June 18th, and all that said was : Hi Annie – thank you for flagging this case. We have been liaising with Texan colleagues on the similarities.



Tony Deacon

So that doesn't say much, but apparently they are still working on it.

I talked to the FA in Harris county last month, she didn't have an update for me and said they were still working on the comparison. FA is the original person I sent Yvette's info to, and I have spoken with her about other cases in her county, they are being realllly quiet about this comparison for some reason - I hope that WCJD doesn't have to wait too much longer. I emailed FA this AM asking for an update - no response yet.

 

[traacker13]

I have always thought that this Jane Doe may be Robyn Pettinato who went
missing in 1975. It's hard to envision it with the haircut in her only photo so I played with an app to add hair. Sorry, it's a shoddy job but it's hard to work with the photo with the angle. Her original photo is below:

Her photo I tweaked to add longer hair too is below:

 

[traacker13]

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What do you all think of the new photos?

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[CarlK90245]

I do not like the new photo. I hate it when they start playing with peoples hair color, for one. Also her hair was obviously in a completely different style. I know they do that to give people more idea's of how she may have looked......but seriously.....the hairstyle on this pic is horrible.

I agree. I hate to speak up on these NCMEC recons, because I don't want to sound like I'm tooting my own horn on my own version. But you're right. This NCMEC version depicts a much stronger chin and jawline than was the case, IMO. She looks to be about 18-20 in this recon. I doubt that she was much more than 16. And her hairstyle looks more modern compared to the 70's hairstyle that WCJD had. She was doing the Farrah Fawcett look, as as were most girls in the late 70's and early 80's

And she was seen in a yellow sweater. Why depict her in clothes more typical of a newer generation?

 

[EmiLove832]

Robyn's nose looks quite a big bigger than WCJD.

The chin looks very similar though.


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[Lyssav]

I agree. I hate to speak up on these NCMEC recons, because I don't want to sound like I'm tooting my own horn on my own version. But you're right. This NCMEC version depicts a much stronger chin and jawline than was the case, IMO. She looks to be about 18-20 in this recon. I doubt that she was much more than 16. And her hairstyle looks more modern compared to the 70's hairstyle that WCJD had. She was doing the Farrah Fawcett look, as as were most girls in the late 70's and early 80's

And she was seen in a yellow sweater. Why depict her in clothes more typical of a newer generation?

This recon was posted on ncmec FB and I think it does throw people off - some commenters seemed to think she is a recent UID. Personally, I am a fan of your WCJD recon - you do excellent work. And it's definitely okay to toot your own horn every now and then! We don't mind!

Spoke to Dr. D - still working on the comparison. I know sometimes these things just take a while, but it almost gives me a little glimmer of hope that maybe just maybe we have found her.

 

[Still_Seek_Answers]

I agree. I hate to speak up on these NCMEC recons, because I don't want to sound like I'm tooting my own horn on my own version. But you're right. This NCMEC version depicts a much stronger chin and jawline than was the case, IMO. She looks to be about 18-20 in this recon. I doubt that she was much more than 16. And her hairstyle looks more modern compared to the 70's hairstyle that WCJD had. She was doing the Farrah Fawcett look, as as were most girls in the late 70's and early 80's

And she was seen in a yellow sweater. Why depict her in clothes more typical of a newer generation?

I agree. This recon makes her look way older than she was. Plus, I do not care for the face shape, chin....actually not much of anything about it. Yes, we share it from our FB page, along with all the other images of her. We share both images of a young Florida Jane Doe also.( her recons could not be further part.) We do it to help people understand that recons are not an exact science, and that the unidentified persons appearance can change from artist to artist. That way people do not look at a recon and think, of that can't be the person I am thinking about.....but some liberties are just taken way to far. This girl hardly dyed her hair after death, so her image should always reflect her true color. IMO, they all should. Changing the face shape and making it fuller, that benefits nobody and only adds to the confusion. I'm sorry, and I do not do recons.....so I am probably out of line saying this.....but I have not cared for many of the ncmec recons as of late. I could line up 5 or 6 of the girls from our page and other than the hair....there is very little difference in them.

BTW Carl, I like your recons.....and as you know, I include them in every album of the UPs we post.....well, that is everyone you have a recon for. I also agree on the clothing, show them wearing what they were found in.

 

[Lyssav]

Just wanted to update you all, after a very long wait the comparison has finally been made and Yvette has been ruled out as being WCJD. I know some of you have gone through yearbooks from the area WCJD says she was from and have had no luck, I am a bit further up the coast - as soon as school starts back up I am heading to the library to go through yearbooks - I have access to one from the early 70s now, I am also keeping my eyes peeled for swimsuit boy (dean corll victim)

Also - keep an eye on namus recent additions, I have seen a lot of older profiles being added lately.

 

[traacker13]

Robyn's nose looks quite a big bigger than WCJD.

The chin looks very similar though.


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I thought about this and wondered wondered if it was possible for someone's nose to change shape as they aged. The answer to that I found was yes and no. The septum stops growing at 12 years old (13 for boys) so any change to the septum after that point is highly unlikely however, after your teenage years your skin experiences a change and becomes less sebaceous/oily and thinner. So while the nose is likely not smaller the shape can appear thinner/less bulbous. If you look at anyone's teenage high school photos and how they appear as an adult for some people it is very apparent there Is achange. Take a look at some photos of stars as teens and how they look as they aged (provided of course that they did not get plastic surgery) you can typically see a thinner appearance to the nose. And while I obviously cannot prove that Eva Longoria did not have plastic surgery, she claims not too. I posted her photo below to prove that we would likely assume that her nose in her teenage years was larger than her nose as an adult.

 

[carbuff]

But the tip of the nose continues to grow throughout life.

 

[Roselvr]

Just wanted to update you all, after a very long wait the comparison has finally been made and Yvette has been ruled out as being WCJD. I know some of you have gone through yearbooks from the area WCJD says she was from and have had no luck, I am a bit further up the coast - as soon as school starts back up I am heading to the library to go through yearbooks - I have access to one from the early 70s now, I am also keeping my eyes peeled for swimsuit boy (dean corll victim)

Also - keep an eye on namus recent additions, I have seen a lot of older profiles being added lately.

One of my NamUs case workers told me Oregon is going to be adding more older cases & to be patient as the person inputs them.

 

[taramarie]

bump.

 

[Jondalar45]

Did any of those inmates have pin pals? Did the police check that? She could of been very gullible and lured there with letters. This case makes me sick.

 

[Jondalar45]

Were any criminals capable of committing that act released from prison that day or month? Anyone know?

 

[CarlK90245]

Were any criminals capable of committing that act released from prison that day or month? Anyone know?

I don't know. My presumption was that someone picked her up hitchhiking and killed her on her way to the prison facility, not away from it.

But I don't see any reason to rule out the theory that she met up with someone being released from the prison.

However, the person being released wouldn't have his own car. He would have needed transportation, and someone would have had to give both of them a ride away from the prison. So if that was the case, more than one person would have had to have been involved in her murder.

 

[carbuff]

I've wondered whether she meant somebody who worked there, not an inmate?

 

[reasypeasy]

She could even have been meeting someone who was visiting an inmate. Or said they were visiting an inmate. She sounds like a kid who has only just run away from home... the stupid impractical shoes, the sulleness, the lack of luggage. I'm guessing she thought that whoever she met there was going to take care of her material needs for a while. Presumably they checked all the inmates who were released that day and it didn't appear to be one of them. That leaves staff and visitors.