UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #8

[Konstantin]

We have RT saying he saw a BMW - it was navy blue -in Shorrolds Rd

The article said the superhire ones were blue. This is probably indeed why JD so confident. It's definitely interesting. But what then is the sequence with the cars. Did she drive to Stevenage and he drove her up to Shorrolds? But how did they end up back in the fiesta later? He drives them back to Stevenage, they go to lunch in the fiesta?

 

[Lady Stoddart-West]

Agreed. I’ve thought this for a very long time. DL while well intentioned was a hindrance right from the off imo. Behaved incredibly savvily at times, but at what cost?



Indeed. But also I find it curious that right from the off it’s being suggested by those who knew Suzy that this story was more than mere ‘man posing as house-buyer abducts estate agent’. Take NB, who says: “I feel sure that the man must have met Susie sometime before abducting her.” While in a separate story her friends were said to be compiling lists of guests at recent parties, in case ‘Kipper’ had been in attendance. Perhaps imaginations were simply going into overdrive in those early, frenetic days, but it suggests to me the flatmate and friends had reason to suspect this was more than a simple house viewing gone wrong. There was evidently a lot going on in this woman’s life and I’d be surprised if her nearest and dearest even knew the half of it.

Unfortunately AS did know the half of it - I see him as a bit of an Andrew Lownie of his time. I come back to the ‘contacts’ & the ‘calls’ to flat NB flagged & SL’s ex flatmate - from ‘another group of friends’. These needed to be bottomed out - AL saw it as ‘muck raking’.

 

[WestLondoner]

On JD saying JC had access to a BMW in July 86, was this via the hire firm that is flagged in article upthread? It said JC worked there part time & had access to BMWs!

This is astonishing if true. I've never heard of JC having a job at a car hire, firm, only a prop hire firm.

The article said the superhire ones were blue. This is probably indeed why JD so confident.

Are we sure Superhire also hired cars? Their website says they've been in the business of hiring out furniture, art, plants etc as props for 50 years. Cars aren't mentioned. If not, where did JC get the time to hold down two part-time jobs while on day release?

 

[Lady Stoddart-West]

This is astonishing if true. I've never heard of JC having a job at a car hire, firm, only a prop hire firm.

Are we sure Superhire also hired cars? Their website says they've been in the business of hiring out furniture, art, plants etc as props for 50 years. Cars aren't mentioned. If not, where did JC get the time to hold down two part-time jobs while on day release?

Quite, but they were taking all the forensics very seriously & checking time sheets. The car hire firm not named. If article accurate…Wow!

All the best evidence for JC seems to get lost ironically & the frankly ridiculous flagged.

 

[Konstantin]

This is astonishing if true. I've never heard of JC having a job at a car hire, firm, only a prop hire firm.

Are we sure Superhire also hired cars? Their website says they've been in the business of hiring out furniture, art, plants etc as props for 50 years. Cars aren't mentioned. If not, where did JC get the time to hold down two part-time jobs while on day release?

I thought it meant the prop hire firm had cars. I was astonished because I hadn't heard that before

 

[WestLondoner]

I thought it meant the prop hire firm had cars. I was astonished because I hadn't heard that before

Ditto. I suspect a crossing of lines somewhere.

 

[Lady Stoddart-West]

I thought it meant the prop hire firm had cars. I was astonished because I hadn't heard that before

Right no, a separate hire company.

Interestingly, CBD in Prime Suspect says JC was fired from Prop hire company at some point which doesn’t fit re: DV research & JC’s various buddies interviewed in docs from the company. It might be poss he had a break & went there to car hire firm or had very brief stint or flirtation with it.

He’d written to the Jack Barclay showroom in Mayfair after a job from the scrubs & to other prestige dealerships. He made things up too on his CV & lies of omission.