• #141
I received a, uh, terse response from the case manager at Identifyus. Here is a copy paste:
"Any exclusions do appear on the Case Information page that comes up when you access a case. For #4640 there are none which is why you don't see any."


Now I thought our Jane Doe was 4630, which was the case number I referenced. I am going to assume the CM fat fingered his response....either that or I am insane.

Mia, you have put an incredible amount of time into this case: I am going to leave it up to you to decide if you want me to contact LE for the list of rule outs (even though the case file IIRC is not readily available) or if you would like to. Because we can go through this thread alone and come up with a couple...or perhaps some are going to have to run again???


First you are correct the Namus case number i have for her is also 4630...

I planned to contact LE in WC, Early next week. I have learned from speaking to them, that after a long weekend it is hard to reach them, they are busy catching up form the weekend. Also some of them maybe off today even as it is a State holiday. I guess you tell me, if we both contact them is that overload?? I will say out of the two invest. involved(both seem very dedicated) but perkins is the one that said when the file is located would give me the rule out info.

Also just to run this by one and all.. for anyone intrested, I think it would be a good idea to get a letter/email campaign going to the news networks nationally, and locally(in Walker County and Part Aransas area) to maybe get her face back in the media. I have a list of the contact info if anyone is intrested IM me(am I allowed to say that?? if not I will remove)

I have not yet got the newest drawing up of her on her website. I will ASAP. Right now I am watching the trial of the husband that killed his wife in Waco Tx, I went to school with the wife. Going to upload the new pic to her site, then back to the trial.
 
  • #142
Mia, is there a photo of the pendant available? It actually helped family ID Tawni Lee Mazzone/Maricopa Jane Doe when the photos of her jewelry were finally released

I have been told by two sources(one LE and one other searcher that asked in the past) that No there is no picture AND the necklace ahs been lsot.
 
  • #143
BUMMER. Thanks MIA!!!!!
 
  • #144
The new picture by Carl has been added to Jane Does site. Thanks..

Carl i kinda gave u credit, by saying another searcher did the art work..Let me know how u want me to identify u for credit..lol

The link to the site is http://walkercountyjanedoe1980.webs.com
 
  • #145
Just spoke with Lt Perkins(had a free minute while he would still be in office) He says the file is still with other agency, but he will make a point to get it next time he is there, and call me with the list of rule outs. I have left a message with my other contact that may have a list of rule outs...So now am back on the waiting game.. for now.
 
  • #146
Just spoke with Lt Perkins(had a free minute while he would still be in office) He says the file is still with other agency, but he will make a point to get it next time he is there, and call me with the list of rule outs. I have left a message with my other contact that may have a list of rule outs...So now am back on the waiting game.. for now.

Can we have LT Perkins sent to my, uh, close friend at Identifyus?? Here is the case manager's info:
[email protected]

Monte Johnson is his name....either he or the local MEDEX has to input the info....
 
  • #147
Can we have LT Perkins sent to my, uh, close friend at Identifyus?? Here is the case manager's info:
[email protected]

Monte Johnson is his name....either he or the local MEDEX has to input the info....

I will tell him/ask him, I do know they use a diffrent "service" then any I have heard named on here.. The other investigor told me the name of it, but I cant remember what she called it. I aslo know they can not get on just any website from the SO. I am sure they ahve ways for investigative purpose, but the other det. had to look at Jane Does site from her home puter.

*by service I meant the thing they use to store and compare dna stuff..and well they use Codis, but also another..if I remember correctly.
** just so I know what is a local MEDEX?
 
  • #148
  • #149
Bumping 4 Jane Doe..Believe any word...
 
  • #150
miiiiaaaaaaaa, dont give up on me. Had personal issues derail the last week, so I will catch up with you ASAP. You are on my calendar so do not feel forgotten. I am not expecting to hear anything, if anything, until Feb at the earliest because of the need to do sample to sample-wonder if warrants or subpoena's have to be written??
 
  • #151
miiiiaaaaaaaa, dont give up on me. Had personal issues derail the last week, so I will catch up with you ASAP. You are on my calendar so do not feel forgotten. I am not expecting to hear anything, if anything, until Feb at the earliest because of the need to do sample to sample-wonder if warrants or subpoena's have to be written??

Quite likely -- the case a neighbor was involved in took almost *cringes* eighteen months from when she was first contacted. It wasn't a crime situation (her niece was suspected to be on one of those ferries that capsized in SE Asia...turned out it wasn't her) but I don't suppose that speeded things up any.
 
  • #152
Quite likely -- the case a neighbor was involved in took almost *cringes* eighteen months from when she was first contacted. It wasn't a crime situation (her niece was suspected to be on one of those ferries that capsized in SE Asia...turned out it wasn't her) but I don't suppose that speeded things up any.

If the sample is at UT, we are probably looking at 6 months only because they are so busy.
 
  • #153
I'm only including ones that are around 12-16 years old in 1980 (IUV looks very young to me) and are of smaller build with have light eye color, forgive me if I overlooked something:

Dorothy Delilah Scofield: http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/363dffl.html
Disappeared when she was only 12 in 1976, so the height would obviously be off....

Rachel Hanna Ziselman: http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/73dfca.html
Same thing with Rachel...hard to tell when you don't have an updated picture, they could change in looks so much within a handful of years.

Marie Ann Blee: http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/219dfco.html

Kimberly Alice King: http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/96dfmi.html

Just throwing these out there as well, sorry if they've already been posted. I would love to see this one solved - this precious girl went through way too much pain before there was peace. Someone out there knows who this is.
 
  • #154
Rachel Ziselman and Kimberly King have a fairly close resemblance to WCJD, although Kimberly is a bit too tall. As for Marie Blee, I think that authorities are pretty sure that she was killed on the night that she disappeared, and they have a good idea who the perps are. They just can't get them to lead them to a body, and unfortunately, waterboarding isn't an option!

IMO, all four of these girls have bigger chins than WCJD.
 
  • #155
Because I am at a loss as to what can be done to help identify Walker County, Texas Jane Doe, I am posting a list (I'm very sure it is only a small portion) of criminals who may have been housed at the Ellis Prison Unit on October 30, 1980, the date the Walker County Jane Doe was "possibly" trying to get to the prison to see a friend.

Stephen Lindsey Moody (executed 2009)
http://www.txexecutions.org/reports/440.asp

Stephen Lindsey Moody, 52, was executed by lethal injection on 16 September 2009 in Huntsville, Texas for the murder and robbery of a man in his home.

On 19 October 1991, Calvin Doby, 29, Lloyd Larrieu, 49, and Melvin Ellis drove to the Houston home of Larrieu's drug supplier, Joseph Hall, 28. After some discussion about robbing Hall, Doby telephoned Moody, then 34. About an hour and a half later, Moody and Doby met at Hall's house. They then forced their way inside and demanded money and drugs from Hall. While Hall pleaded for his life, Moody shot him at close range with a sawed-off shotgun. Moody and Doby then fled with $1,200 in cash. About 45 minutes later, they met at Ellis's house to divide the money.

The murder case went unsolved for nearly a year until a relative of Doby give police a tip. Hall's girlfriend, Rene McKeage, who witnessed the murder, then identified Moody from a photo lineup. By that time, Moody was already in prison, serving a 40-year sentence for robbing a Houston bank in December 1991. MORE

Michael Lynn Riley(executed 2009)
http://www.txexecutions.org/reports/438.asp

Michael Lynn Riley, 51, was executed by lethal injection on 19 May 2009 in Huntsville, Texas for the murder and robbery of a convenience store clerk.
On 1 February 1986, Riley, then 27, entered a convenience store in Quitman in northeastern Texas, carrying a concealed butcher knife. Riley was a frequent customer in the store. Clerk Wynona Harris, 23, told him to help himself to the ice cream he wanted while she counted some money. While Harris had her back turned to Riley, he came up behind her and stabbed her to death. He left the store with a cloth bag containing $1,110 in cash. A customer came in later and found Harris's body behind the counter. She was stabbed 31 times. MORE

Joseph Bennard Nichols (executed 2007)
http://www.txexecutions.org/reports/387.asp
http://www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/death/US/nichols1066.htm

Joseph Bennard Nichols, 45, was executed by lethal injection on 7 March 2007 in Huntsville, Texas for the robbery and murder of a store employee.

On 13 October 1980, Nichols, then 19, Willie Williams, 24, Charlotte Parker, and Evelyn Harvey drove to a spot near Joseph's Delicatessen and Grocery in Houston. Williams and Nichols went inside, both carrying guns. Williams had a .380 semi-automatic pistol, and Nichols had a snub-nosed .38-caliber revolver. MORE
 
  • #156
Michael Richard (executed 2007)
Angel Maturino Resendiz (executed 2007)
Robert Rowell (executed 2005)
Alexander Martinez (executed 2005)
Ricky Morrow (executed 2004)
Edward Lagrone (executed 2004)
James Colburn (executed 2003)
Tony Walker (executed 2002)
Gerald Casey (executed 2002)
Jeffery Tucker (executed 2001)
Miguel Richardson (executed 2001)
Adolph Hernandez (executed 2001)
Richard Jones (executed 2000)
John Satterwhite (executed 2000)
Richard Foster (executed 2000)
Tommy Jackson (executed 2000)
 
  • #157
  • #158
I am looking for a victim that sort of matches that description. I am searching for a young teenage prostitute that was killed between 1980-1983 she was most likely drowned and believed to be pregnant she would have been found in houston texas. I have very little info about her. she was young and she was a prostitute living in houston with her pimp. she was most likely a drug addict anyone with any info please let me know?
 
  • #159
I am looking for a victim that sort of matches that description. I am searching for a young teenage prostitute that was killed between 1980-1983 she was most likely drowned and believed to be pregnant she would have been found in houston texas. I have very little info about her. she was young and she was a prostitute living in houston with her pimp. she was most likely a drug addict anyone with any info please let me know?

Here are a few Southeastern Texas unidentified female teens. They were either found during the time frame indicated, or skeletal remains found in the few years that followed.

None indicate pregnancy, drowning, nor do any indicate possible prostitution.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/476uftx.html
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/543uftx.html
http://doenetwork.org/cases/72uftx.html
http://doenetwork.org/cases/82uftx.html
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/77uftx.html
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/343uftx.html
http://www.doenetwork.org/hot/hotcase1513.html
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/85uftx.html
http://doenetwork.org/cases/137uftx.html
 
  • #160
I am looking for a victim that sort of matches that description. I am searching for a young teenage prostitute that was killed between 1980-1983 she was most likely drowned and believed to be pregnant she would have been found in houston texas. I have very little info about her. she was young and she was a prostitute living in houston with her pimp. she was most likely a drug addict anyone with any info please let me know?

Do you know if she's from Houston, or was she from somewhere else before that? I'm thinking that her pimp probably didn't report her missing, but her parents or somebody might have. But then she'd probably show up as missing from wherever she was before she left with the pimp.
 

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