GUILTY TX - Kala Golden-Schuchardt, 28, Spring, 17 April 2012

[SurfieTX]

:what: I hope he doesn't have any kids of his own !!

I believe he has a daughter.

 

[claudicici]

Like Jenny said the fiancee is very light skinned,blue eyed so at least the part of her thinking she could fool her man with a white baby makes sense now.I also can't believe he said he would still marry her !!! So much still doesn't make sense,why didn't he ask to see his baby when he was supposedly born? Why would his mother assume the baby was inside the comforter and bundle of clothes and when he wasn't why didn't she insist on seeing her grand child?I still think the sister at the least knew about it.Her blood smeared Lexus was dropped off by Verna at her apartments and then the sister was with Keegan when he was found.The story was all over the news.I just can't believe the sister didn't know anything.

 

[Crosby87]

Respectfully snipped:


It depends on when you miscarry. In theory you should see a doctor, but plenty of people don't if it's early on. In fact, some women don't know they miscarry if it is early enough in the pregnancy.

An article published by the American Pregnancy Association states that about 50% of women who miscarry do not undergo a D&C procedure. Women can safely miscarry on their own, with few problems in pregnancies that end before 10 weeks. After 10 weeks, the miscarriage is more likely to be incomplete, requiring a D&C procedure to be performed.

The main goal of treatment during or after a miscarriage is to prevent hemorrhaging and/or infection.

http://www.americanpregnancy.org/pregnancycomplications/dandc.html

 

[Crosby87]

Like Jenny said the fiancee is very light skinned,blue eyed so at least the part of her thinking she could fool her man with a white baby makes sense now.I also can't believe he said he would still marry her !!! So much still doesn't make sense,why didn't he ask to see his baby when he was supposedly born? Why would his mother assume the baby was inside the comforter and bundle of clothes and when he wasn't why didn't she insist on seeing her grand child?I still think the sister at the least knew about it.Her blood smeared Lexus was dropped off by Verna at her apartments and then the sister was with Keegan when he was found.The story was all over the news.I just can't believe the sister didn't know anything.

It is hard to imagine anyone would actually do what Verna did, kidnap a baby, shoot the mother and drive over her in broad daylight but I can't understand how her fiance would not doubt his lover's story that she was pregnant and had delivered his child because of the physical changes a woman goes through as her pregnancy progresses.

Most fathers these days are involved in the delivery of their child or at least visit the mother in the hospital. Unfortunately it seems like the finance is nieve and easy to deceive.

Verna's sister must have grown suspicious when her sister arrived at her house with a baby wearing blood-stained clothing but it sounds like Verna changed her clothing and left her sister's shortly after she called her fiance's mother for a ride so she could dispose of the physical evidence.

The witnesses recorded the license plate to the Lexus so LE probably arrived at the sister's house before she had an opportunity to talk to Verna and find out the truth.

It's possible no one knew what Verna's real intentions were that fateful day. jmo

 

[Crosby87]

As much as I do not want this woman to get off on some insanity claim, she must have been absolutely insane to think she was going to get away with something like this. After seeing that interview with the fiance, it appears more and more that this crime was motivated by her desperation to keep her man and she had to make a move like this, rather than get caught up in her big lie about having his child. Makes me so sick to my stomach to think that all the Schuchardt and Golden families are going through right now is because of some sick woman's desperate attempt to keep a man.

DEFENSE, INSANITY

A criminal defense asserting that at the time of the commission of the acts constituting the offense, the defendant, as a result of a severe mental disease or defect, was unable to appreciate the nature and quality or the wrongfulness of his acts. Mental disease or defect does not otherwise constitute a defense. U.S.C. 18

A person is insane, and is not responsible for criminal conduct if, at the time of such conduct, as a result of a severe mental disease or defect, he was unable to appreciate the nature and quality or the wrongfulness of his acts. This is because willful intent is an essential part of most offenses; and a person who is insane is not capable of forming such intent. Mental disease or defect does not otherwise constitute a defense; the person has the burden of proving the defense of insanity by clear and convincing evidence.

http://www.lectlaw.com/def/d029.htm

Although Ms. McClain’s defense attorney asserted at Verna’s hearing that she was unable to appreciate the nature and quality or the wrongfulness of her acts when she committed the crime, I disagree.

I believe the prosecution can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Verna willfully intended to commit the crime and was in control of her mental faculties the day she carried out her plan. Her motive / reasons for stealing the child is clear – she told her fiancé she had given birth to their child in April and she was under pressure to produce a child for him.

All criminals hope they won’t get caught but that does not fit the definition of insanity.

Verna McClain planned the crime in advance which proves it was premeditated. She knew what she did was wrong or she wouldn’t have taken the gun with her nor attempted to destroy the evidence imo. She also lied to the investigators and attempted to hide what she had done so the chances of her being found insane or not criminally responsible isn’t going to work imo.

IMO, Verna should plead guilty in exchange for having the death penalty removed from the table and spare this case from going to trial so it will be interesting to see what happens at her next court appearance.

 

[claudicici]

It is hard to imagine anyone would actually do what Verna did, kidnap a baby, shoot the mother and drive over her in broad daylight but I can't understand how her fiance would not doubt his lover's story that she was pregnant and had delivered his child because of the physical changes a woman goes through as her pregnancy progresses.

Most fathers these days are involved in the delivery of their child or at least visit the mother in the hospital. Unfortunately it seems like the finance is nieve and easy to deceive.

Verna's sister must have grown suspicious when her sister arrived at her house with a baby wearing blood-stained clothing but it sounds like Verna changed her clothing and left her sister's shortly after she called her fiance's mother for a ride so she could dispose of the physical evidence.

The witnesses recorded the license plate to the Lexus so LE probably arrived at the sister's house before she had an opportunity to talk to Verna and find out the truth.

It's possible no one knew what Verna's real intentions were that fateful day. jmo

But after she left the sister's apartment,the sister must have left with Keegan as well.They found Keegan with Verna's sister at Verna's house,isn't that correct?

 

[TxAg2003]

I would love to see a timeline of events for this because any way I look at it, I cannot get it make sense in my head. Where was the baby throughout the afternoon and how were they transporting him, etc... All the info has been very vague.

 

[BuzzieCat]

Verna McClain denied bond at hearing:

http://www.khou.com/news/local/Verna-McClain-back-in-court-for-bond-hearing-148508655.html

The article has more detail about evidence found at McClain's apartment. The judge and DA are also talking about capital murder charges and the death penalty.

Very interesting article. In the apt she had bloody clothes and a gun that matched with the kind of bullets used to shoot Kala. Wow, and she tried to say that she found the baby on her doorstep!

There is her fiancee. He looks to be bi-racial to me. I guess that could explain why she thought she could pass up a white baby as hers and his. Apparently she told him she had the child on April 3rd. Even though he has not seen that child apparently he believed her. So I guess she could have convinced him that baby was actually theirs.
http://www.khou.com/news/Fiance-of-...dnapping-baby-says-hes-shocked-148623125.html

I hope he's not serious that he would still marry her! Why wouldn't he have tried to see this supposed baby in the hospital?

:what: I hope he doesn't have any kids of his own !!

He says in the article that he has two!

I'm still unclear as to how the baby got from the apartment/parking lot to the house some miles away, since the Lexus was still in the parking lot at the apartment.

Verna's thinking seems very disorganized based on the behavior she exhibited, but at the same time she did try to cover up what she did, which I believe can mean "consciousness of guilt" and therefore not insane. I would be VERY interested to know when her last miscarriage really occurred. If it was years ago, there'd be no way to claim postpartum psychosis I don't think. :moo:

 

[Crosby87]

But after she left the sister's apartment,the sister must have left with Keegan as well.They found Keegan with Verna's sister at Verna's house,isn't that correct?

Thank you. You’re right. This article said the Texas Rangers found the child at a home where McClain’s parents live, around 8:15 p.m. Tuesday. The baby was with McClain’s sister, deputies said. He was not harmed.

Another report said the license plate number on the Lexus led detectives to Verna’s sister’s house but this report says hours after the abduction, detectives who canvassed parking lots in the area spotted a Lexus fitting the description of the killer’s car at the Fawn Ridge apartment complex, located in the 12400 block of Sawmill Rd.

Here are some highlights from the link I posted below:

- While officers were searching the complex for the missing child, they said McClain showed up and asked to speak to them.

-Investigators said McClain admitted to shooting Golden so she could take the baby and she told investigators where Keegan was.

-Schuchardt said he hadn’t yet signed Keegan’s birth certificate which complicated the process of getting his child back.

-Investigators said it was not clear why McClain chose to take Keegan, who is white, if she intended to pass the child off as her own. Deputies said both McClain and her fiancé are black.

-Police do believe Verna suffered a miscarriage so maybe it’s true she was pregnant and lost the baby. I hope they aren’t taking Verna’s word for it especially since we know not all woman seek medical attention after they miscarry.

-We think she knew the patterns of the pediatric center because she’d taken her children there in the past, said Lt. Dan Norris with the Montgomery County Sheriff’s Office.

-Deputies said they were interviewing McClain’s fiancé, who was not named, Wednesday afternoon.

http://www.khou.com/home/Woman-charged-for-shooting-mother-baby-in-CPS-custody-147893285.html

 

[Crosby87]

Funeral held for mother fatally shot in baby kidnapping

About 500 people attended the service along with Golden-Schuchardt’s family. Her three children, who are 1-week-old, 2-years-old and 4-years-old, did not attend the funeral service.

Golden-Schuchardt was laid to rest at a cemetery in The Woodlands.

http://www.khou.com/news/Funeral-held-for-mother-gunned-down-in-baby-kidnapping--148766075.html

 

[jjenny]

Funeral held for mother fatally shot in baby kidnapping

About 500 people attended the service along with Golden-Schuchardt’s family. Her three children, who are 1-week-old, 2-years-old and 4-years-old, did not attend the funeral service.

Golden-Schuchardt was laid to rest at a cemetery in The Woodlands.

http://www.khou.com/news/Funeral-held-for-mother-gunned-down-in-baby-kidnapping--148766075.html

So very sad, especially for the children.

 

[Crosby87]

Very interesting article. In the apt she had bloody clothes and a gun that matched with the kind of bullets used to shoot Kala. Wow, and she tried to say that she found the baby on her doorstep!


I hope he's not serious that he would still marry her! Why wouldn't he have tried to see this supposed baby in the hospital?


He says in the article that he has two!

I'm still unclear as to how the baby got from the apartment/parking lot to the house some miles away, since the Lexus was still in the parking lot at the apartment.

Verna's thinking seems very disorganized based on the behavior she exhibited, but at the same time she did try to cover up what she did, which I believe can mean "consciousness of guilt" and therefore not insane. I would be VERY interested to know when her last miscarriage really occurred. If it was years ago, there'd be no way to claim postpartum psychosis I don't think. :moo:

Maybe Keegan WAS wrapped inside the blankets when Verna got into her fiance's mother's car and she didn't want her to see the baby because she knew his picture would be all over the news?

 

[claudicici]

I almost thought that myself....but wouldn't poor Keegan have suffocated?
I'm almost leaning towards the sister,the boyfriend and his mother knew about it!!!
Maybe not beforehand but it seems to me they all played a part in covering it up.....

 

[MsFacetious]

Fiancé says he'll still marry woman accused of killing mother, kidnapping baby :thud:

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Carter said he proposed to McClain before she got pregnant and there was no pressure from him to have a baby together.

"I would have married her anyway. It really wouldn’t have mattered," Carter said.
"She got three [children]. I got two so we wasn’t hurting for no baby." :sigh:

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For the past couple of weeks he was wondering if there was a baby at all because he had not actually seen the child. :waitasec:

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After the shooting, Carter posted on his Facebook wall, "damn verna u didnt have to do dat but keep ya head up mama." :thud:

http://www.khou.com/news/Fiance-of-...dnapping-baby-says-hes-shocked-148623125.html


Something tells me that the life sentence she is going to get, is likely to change his devotion.
But... you never know. :twocents:

 

[Crosby87]

I almost thought that myself....but wouldn't poor Keegan have suffocated?
I'm almost leaning towards the sister,the boyfriend and his mother knew about it!!!
Maybe not beforehand but it seems to me they all played a part in covering it up.....

If Keegan was wrapped in the blankets, it looks like Verna arranged the blankets so he would be able to breathe. It doesn't sound like Verna told any of her family members including her fiance what she planned to do. I think Verna's sister who the Lexus is registered to may have become suspicious when her sister showed up with a baby wearing blood-stained clothing but apparently Verna told her sister she was picking up her foster child that she planned to adopt so I guess she had no reason to doubt her. But the sister knew Verna was apparently pregnant. The Grand Jury interviewed several people so I'm sure Verna's sister was brought in for questioning.

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The grand jury investigating the case will hear from several people before making a decision.

http://www.khou.com/news/Fiance-of-...dnapping-baby-says-hes-shocked-148623125.html

Here are comments from some of Verna's family members:

On Tuesday morning, she left her home to take her children to school, and told her younger sister she was going to pick up her foster child that day.
McClain&#8217;s grandmother said her granddaughter didn&#8217;t let on anything was wrong until hours after the shooting.

The grandmother said she went with McClain to the younger sister&#8217;s home and saw the SWAT team outside. At first, McClain, who had diapers in the back of the car, didn&#8217;t let on she knew anything about why detectives might be outside the apartment.

Her grandmother said she later admitted to police what happened.

http://www.khou.com/home/McClains-g...gun-after-burglary-at-her-home-148176745.html

Verna McClain&#8217;s mother was devastated when she learned her daughter had been charged with killing a young mother and abducting her 3-day-old baby boy.

&#8220;I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s going on. That&#8217;s not my kid,&#8221; said McClain&#8217;s mother, who was sobbing when she talked with KHOU 11 News. &#8220;But I&#8217;m sorry for the family.&#8221;

http://www.khou.com/home/Sheriff-Ve...-told-fiance-he-was-the-father-147993155.html

Investigators said McClain presented Keegan to her family as a baby she intended to adopt.

http://www.khou.com/home/Community-...-of-slain-mother-abducted-baby-148005065.html

 

[Crosby87]

Fiancé says he'll still marry woman accused of killing mother, kidnapping baby :thud:

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Carter said he proposed to McClain before she got pregnant and there was no pressure from him to have a baby together.

"I would have married her anyway. It really wouldn’t have mattered," Carter said.
"She got three [children]. I got two so we wasn’t hurting for no baby." :sigh:

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For the past couple of weeks he was wondering if there was a baby at all because he had not actually seen the child. :waitasec:

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After the shooting, Carter posted on his Facebook wall, "damn verna u didnt have to do dat but keep ya head up mama." :thud:

http://www.khou.com/news/Fiance-of-...dnapping-baby-says-hes-shocked-148623125.html


Something tells me that the life sentence she is going to get, is likely to change his devotion.
But... you never know. :twocents:

<snipped>

Carter said McClain told him the baby, Kevin Carter Jr., was in the hospital with a respiratory infection. He said she even sent photos of a baby, which he posted on his Facebook page.

http://www.khou.com/news/Fiance-of-...dnapping-baby-says-hes-shocked-148623125.html

 

[Crosby87]

Although Authorities believe Verna recently suffered a miscarriage, Verna&#8217;s defense attorney E. Tay Bond said they had no information on whether McClain had, in fact, suffered a miscarriage, but it was something they&#8217;re looking into.

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SPRING, Texas &#8211; Authorities say a woman accused of killing a young mother and abducting her 3-day-old baby had recently suffered a miscarriage.

Montgomery County investigators on Wednesday said Verna McClain, 30, had been pregnant with her fiancé&#8217;s child, and the couple was planning to marry in May. But after she suffered a miscarriage, investigators said McClain decided to find another child and convince her fiancé it was his.

"She needed to justify having a child to her [fiancé]," Capt. Bruce Zenor with the Montgomery County Sheriff&#8217;s Office said. "And she had led him to believe that she was pregnant and had a child, so she needed a child. She needed to produce a child."

The sheriff&#8217;s office said that McClain tried to represent Keegan as her own child to family members. Her sister allegedly told authorities that McClain had plans to "do the adoption" after taking Keegan.

http://www.khou.com/home/Woman-charged-for-shooting-mother-baby-in-CPS-custody-147893285.html

Defense attorney E. Tay Bond said they plan to enter a plea of not guilty when McClain is formerly arraigned. District Attorney Brett Ligon described Bond and Stephen Jackson, the second defense attorney assisting on the case, as professional and diligent.

Defense attorneys on Thursday said they had no information on whether McClain had, in fact, suffered a miscarriage, but it was something they&#8217;re looking into.

http://www.khou.com/home/Verna-McCl...rneys-plan-to-plead-not-guilty-148111265.html

 

[Crosby87]

McClain worked as a licensed vocational nurse for Epic Health Services. The company provides pediatric care services for what it calls &#8220;medically fragile children.&#8221; The Dallas-based company said that McClain was not on duty on Monday and had been fired, but it would not say how long McClain worked for the company.

Here is a copy of the press release from Verna's former employer.

This is a tragic situation. We know very few facts at this time; we do know that the victim of this horrible crime was not a client of Epic Health Services, Inc. While the individual who has been arrested was not working for Epic on the day in question, her employment has since been terminated. Our thoughts and prayers go out to the family of Kala Marie Golden and we stand ready to cooperate fully with the police in their investigation into this matter. Out of respect for the victim&#8217;s family, we will not offer any further comments.

John C. Garbarino
President & CEO

http://www.khou.com/home/Verna-McCl...rneys-plan-to-plead-not-guilty-148111265.html

 

[Crosby87]

Neighbors who live near the home where the child was found said they knew something was suspicious when Texas Rangers showed up Tuesday night.

"I see a baby, and I was actually in the house on the Internet and had actually seen the Amber Alert about the kidnapping. And I see the baby, and the Texas Rangers put the baby in the back of the ambulance, and I sort of pieced it together," Frank Johnson said.

Johnson described the scene as surreal.

http://www.khou.com/home/Community-...-of-slain-mother-abducted-baby-148005065.html

 

[Crosby87]

According to media reports, only 1 relative of Verna's attended her court appearance.

I wonder if her mother, grandmother, and sister didn't attend because they had to appear before the Grand Jury?

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McClain&#8217;s nephew attended her court appearance.&#8220;I support you. It is bad, but I am still here. You got my support,&#8221; said Harold Scott.

http://www.khou.com/home/Verna-McCl...rneys-plan-to-plead-not-guilty-148111265.html