UK - 7 & a 11 year old murdered, 49yr old female arrested, Stoke On Trent , 11 June 2023

[StillDiggin]

This is heartbreaking.
Police have said the two people who died at a house in Stoke, prompting a murder probe, were children. The youngsters, who were found "unresponsive" at a house in Flax Street and were later pronounced dead, were an 11-year-old boy and a seven-year-old girl.

A woman, aged 49 and from Stoke-on-Trent, was arrested on suspicion of murder. She is said to be related to the two victims.
The discovery of the children came after police attended reports of an altercation at GB Hand Car Wash in Campbell Road in Stoke yesterday afternoon. A man in his 40s was stabbed and taken to hospital.

Police later went to the house in Flax Street, discovering the injured children and a woman.

Stoke double murder probe victims are children, seven and 11

Officers went to a house in Flax Street after reports of an altercation at a car wash

www.stokesentinel.co.uk

 

[StillDiggin]

#UPDATE: Detectives have been granted extra time to question a woman following the tragic deaths of two children in Stoke-on-Trent.

At 2.04pm on Sunday (11 June), we were called to a car wash on Campbell Road after a man was stabbed.

He was not seriously injured and has since been discharged from hospital.

Following the incident, we went to a home on Flax Street and arrested a 49-year-old woman in connection with the stabbing.

Whilst at the address, Ethan John, aged 11, and Elizabeth John, aged 7, were both found unresponsive with significant injuries inside.

Sadly, despite the best efforts of police officers and paramedics, they could not be saved and both died at the scene.

Post Mortems will take place today (13 June).


The woman was then further arrested on suspicion of murder and continues to be questioned by detectives in custody.

Superintendent Mark Ward, who oversees local policing in Stoke-on-Trent, said: “Our thoughts are very much with the friends and family of these two children who tragically lost their lives on Sunday.

“It’s an incredibly sad case and I know how raw and painful this is for those close to the children, their school friends, and the wider local community.

“We understand that the woman arrested is known to the children and we do not believe there to be any wider threat to the public following this isolated incident.

“Our priority focus is to establish what happened in this tragic case and to continue working alongside our partners to deter serious violence in Stoke-on-Trent and Staffordshire.”

We are still keen to speak to anyone with any information which could help with our investigation.

Detectives are particularly interested in any CCTV or dashcam footage from the area of Flax Street and Campbell Road between 1.30pm and 2.30pm on Sunday (11 June), or those who were in the area at the time.

Visit the Major Incident Public Portal here: Public Portal (Public Portal)

To report anonymously, call Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.

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[katydid23]

what the heck? She was 'known' to the children?

Was she the girlfriend of the man stabbed at the car wash? Then she went to his home and harmed the kids?

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

what the heck? She was 'known' to the children?

Was she the girlfriend of the man stabbed at the car wash? Then she went to his home and harmed the kids?

That is the first thing that came to my mind.....

It seems pretty clear she is not the poor children's mother....

 

[Sarahlou]

I think she's probably the mother. They usually say 'known to the victims' to start with until they charge the person. It would identify her to say she's the mother.

 

[ArianeEmory]

Yeah, I wondered the same. Female family annihilator?

 

[Sarahlou]

This article says it's the mum they arrested

Their shocking deaths came after police visited a home in the West Midlands town yesterday following an earlier stabbing at a car wash.

At the home, they arrested their mother, 49, in connection with the stabbing. However, they also found two people unresponsive with serious injuries. They died at the scene despite the desperate attempts of paramedics.

Children found murdered after suspect was in car wash fight are named

Ethan John, 11, was described as 'wonderful' and his sister Elizabeth John as a 'ray of sunshine'. Their deaths came after police visited a home following a stabbing at a car wash.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[tlcya]

A brother and sister found dead in a suspected double murder in Stoke-on-Trent have been named as 11-year-old Ethan John and seven-year-old Elizabeth John.
[snip]
Children found murdered after suspect was in car wash fight are named

RIP Ethan and Elizabeth

 

[StillDiggin]

#CHARGED: A woman has been charged with murder after two children died in Stoke-on-Trent.

Veronique John, aged 49, from Stoke-on-Trent, has been charged with two counts of murder and one count of attempted murder.

This is after Ethan and Elizabeth John (aged 11 and seven) died at a house in Flax Street and a man was stabbed in Campbell Street on Sunday (11 June).

The cause of death of both children will be a matter for an inquest in due course.

She will appear at North Staffordshire Justice Centre tomorrow (Thursday 14 June).

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[IHAVENOCLUE]

I think she's probably the mother. They usually say 'known to the victims' to start with until they charge the person. It would identify her to say she's the mother.

Good point.

 

[StillDiggin]

mother charged with murdering her two children who were found dead inside a house has appeared in court.
Ethan John, 11, and his sister Elizabeth, seven, were both found unresponsive with significant injuries at the home in Stoke-on-Trent.
Veronique John, 49, also faces one count of attempted murder.
She was remanded into custody after her appearance at the North Staffordshire Justice Centre on Thursday.
She is due to next appear at Stafford Crown Court on Friday.

Mother in court charged with children's Stoke-on-Trent murder

Veronique John is accused over the deaths of Ethan and Elizabeth John at a Stoke-on-Trent home.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Springplease]

Mother charged with murder of two children in Stoke-on-Trent

Veronique John is accused of killing Ethan John, 11, and his sister Elizabeth, seven, in Stoke-on-Trent.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[imstilla.grandma]

• "Unless you are offering me the death penalty I have nothing else to say"
• John had been ruled unfit to plead and is undergoing a trial of facts at Nottingham Crown Court

A British mother fatally stabbed her two children and then drove to a car wash to stab her husband, all because she didn’t want him to have custody, a court has
heard.

Veronique John, 50, is accused of killing her son Ethan John, 11, by stabbing him more than 20 times, and inflicting fatal brain injuries on her 7-year-old daughter, Elizabeth John.

The children died in June 2023 in what prosecutors described as an eruption of violence motivated by fear of losing them to their father, Nathan John, according to the BBC, who survived the attack.

She Allegedly Made a Chilling Google Search — Then Fatally Stabbed Her Kids, Asked for Death Penalty

A British mother fatally stabbed her two children and attacked her husband at a car wash, prosecutors say, because she didn’t want him to have custody. Veronique John has been ruled unfit to plead but faces a trial of facts over the killings and assault

people.com

 

[Lucy6226]

• "Unless you are offering me the death penalty I have nothing else to say"
• John had been ruled unfit to plead and is undergoing a trial of facts at Nottingham Crown Court

A British mother fatally stabbed her two children and then drove to a car wash to stab her husband, all because she didn’t want him to have custody, a court has
heard.

Veronique John, 50, is accused of killing her son Ethan John, 11, by stabbing him more than 20 times, and inflicting fatal brain injuries on her 7-year-old daughter, Elizabeth John.

The children died in June 2023 in what prosecutors described as an eruption of violence motivated by fear of losing them to their father, Nathan John, according to the BBC, who survived the attack.

She Allegedly Made a Chilling Google Search — Then Fatally Stabbed Her Kids, Asked for Death Penalty

A British mother fatally stabbed her two children and attacked her husband at a car wash, prosecutors say, because she didn’t want him to have custody. Veronique John has been ruled unfit to plead but faces a trial of facts over the killings and assault

people.com

Horrific.