UK - Alesha MacPhail, 6, raped & murdered, Ardbeg, Isle of Bute, Scotland, 2 Jul 2018 -*arrest* #2

[HayLouise]

Connor Gillies‏Verified account @ConnorGillies

Prosecution asks accused if he is a “confident liar”. He says no. Boy admits he lied to police in his initial statement.

 

[Sleuthdolf]

No - it was found within the house on a stair rail (chair lift)

Ok so I didn't misread. Totally done himself then. Not that he didn't already.

 

[Edinlass]

You are correct - it is an internal stairway used only by the McPhail family to access their flat

Thank you

 

[HayLouise]

Fraser Knight‏ @Fraser_Knight

Prosecutor starts cross examination of accused boy asking “would you say you’re a confident liar?” after he lied to police, who said he came across as confident while giving his statement

 

[L White]

Show me where anyone has said that 100% without a shadow of a doubt the image on the CCTV of the shore showed a person carrying a child. Was it a child ? If it was, was it the accused ? Was it something else, a dog ? An item of clothing ? A bag ??

Not sure if you've ever lived on a Scottish Island (I have) and someone wandering about at night would be a bit odd. More than one person (someone carrying a dog/bag AND someone carrying Alesha) would be very odd. We know she was transported from home to another place.

 

[octagonsunrise]

It's been described as legs dangling down.

Exactly - 'described as', not proven given the image quality is so poor. It may well be Alesha's legs, but they cannot prove it, the same as they cannot prove the person on the shore carrying whatever it is, is the accused.

 

[HayLouise]

15:19

Teen 'lied to police about where he was'

The 16-year-old boy said he lied to police about where he was on the night Alesha disappeared, saying instead he had gone to meet a different friend to smoke cannabis.

He said he had done this because he presumed his mum could hear him from the next room.

He told jurors he didn’t want that he had been with Toni getting back to Robert MacPhail.

Boy accused of raping and murdering Alesha MacPhail takes stand

bbm

 

[wtiger]

This is his own barrister asking him questions....if he is struggling to make sense now....the prosecutor will chew him up and spit him out!

 

[HayLouise]

15:23

KEY EVENT

Boy denies rape: "Absolutely not"

The 16-year-old boy has denied raping Alesha MacPhail.

When asked he replied: “Absolutely not... I’ve never met Alesha MacPhail”.

He added that he knew Robert had a daughter but “didn’t even know her name”.

Alesha MacPhail (Image: Facebook)

Boy accused of raping and murdering Alesha MacPhail takes stand

 

[Edinlass]

My point is that it isn't an internal staircase within the flat. The stair has a door at the top and bottom - the accused could have left the print whilst visiting the flat to buy drugs on a previous occasion.

Only going to say it one more time the palm print was found in the internal home only used by the MacPhail family. Earlier we debated if the accused could of left it on a previous visit due to RM not being entirely sure if the accused had been inside his home but the accused has just admitted he was never in the house, well he was certainly never ‘invited’ in that’s for sure.

Still innocent in your eyes?

 

[bronbaby]

what would make you suspect her from the beginning?

How did alesha leave her home? People do cheat. I think he did rape the victim, I just wonder did TM help him.

 

[Alyce]

Radio Clyde News‏Verified account @RadioClydeNews 28m28 minutes ago

He says after he found his phone & went home, he went to bed & woke up around 9am. He's told the court he found out when he woke up that a little girl had gone missing. He says everyone was talking about it that day.



Except his mother's testimony said that she heard people shouting outside at 7.20am - she then went and woke up the accused to ask him if he knew anything about Alesha being missing. He said no and went back to sleep

 

[Gardenista]

How did alesha leave her home? People do cheat. I think he did rape the victim, I just wonder did TM help him.

Why would she do that?

 

[Bustia]

Exactly - 'described as', not proven given the image quality is so poor. It may well be Alesha's legs, but they cannot prove it, the same as they cannot prove the person on the shore carrying whatever it is, is the accused.

Surely with the place being so small and everyone knowing each other if the person on the CCTV was innocent then they would have came forward to explain their movements on that night, they might also be of use to the police to get a more accurate timeline if the person seen anything unusual or seen nothing at all etc.

 

[89leanne89]

I don't think TM helped him at all.

 

[octagonsunrise]

Not sure if you've ever lived on a Scottish Island (I have) and someone wandering about at night would be a bit odd. More than one person (someone carrying a dog/bag AND someone carrying Alesha) would be very odd. We know she was transported from home to another place.

I live directly across from Bute. It may be odd but it isn't completely impossible, particularly given it was mid-summer. The point i'm making is that we do not know exactly who or what it is in that CCTV.

 

[Edinlass]

Radio Clyde News‏Verified account @RadioClydeNews 28m28 minutes ago

He says after he found his phone & went home, he went to bed & woke up around 9am. He's told the court he found out when he woke up that a little girl had gone missing. He says everyone was talking about it that day.



Except his mother's testimony said that she heard people shouting outside at 7.20am - she then went and woke up the accused to ask him if he knew anything about Alesha being missing. He said no and went back to sleep

BINGO! This is so flawed, I’m so glad it is.

 

[L White]

How did alesha leave her home? People do cheat. I think he did rape the victim, I just wonder did TM help him.

If that is the case, why have the police never named her as a suspect? No offence to the girl but she doesn't exactly look like a criminal mastermind who has outsmarted detectives in one of the most shocking cases in the UK for recent years.

 

[Tortoise]

Exactly - 'described as', not proven given the image quality is so poor. It may well be Alesha's legs, but they cannot prove it, the same as they cannot prove the person on the shore carrying whatever it is, is the accused.

I think you're missing the understanding of the evidential burden of the prosecution. You could imagine it's a bag with things that look like dangling legs, or a dog being carried on someone's back, but that's just not even likely.

 

[HayLouise]

Connor Gillies‏Verified account @ConnorGillies

Boy appears to screw his nose up over confusion at a question from the prosecution. Iain McSporran QC says “not the last you’ll hear from me”.