GUILTY UK - Alesha MacPhail, 6, raped & murdered, Ardbeg, Isle of Bute, Scotland, 2 Jul 2018 -*arrest* #7

[Edinlass]

His appeal will go ahead. August 7th.

Alesha MacPhail's killer allowed to appeal life sentence

Disgusting isn’t it. Totally shocked that they’re giving this monster the time of day!

Although let’s hope for MORE time added....I am pretty sure that is an option also!

 

[Yenriac]

His appeal will go ahead. August 7th.

Alesha MacPhail's killer allowed to appeal life sentence

Good Grief!!! Absolutely shocking. I'm disgusted. Hopefully they're going through the motions and they will agree the sentence is fair. I'm shook.

 

[Yenriac]

Disgusting isn’t it. Totally shocked that they’re giving this monster the time of day!

Although let’s hope for MORE time added....I am pretty sure that is an option also!

I think it is an option, fingers crossed then.

 

[Cappuccino]

I'm not worried at all about this decision. I said pages back that the case is so unusual that its no harm for the appeals court to take a look at it.

I don't believe the sentence will be reduced but the legal system liked to make sure all the i's are dotted and t's crossed. And rightly so.

 

[Alyce]

I am astonished. I never thought he would win an appeal. Just when I hoped we had heard the last of him.

 

[Alyce]

A hearing date is set for August 7 at the High Court in Edinburgh.

Teenager who raped and murdered Alesha MacPhail wins right to appeal against life sentence | Daily Mail Online

 

[Cappuccino]

I am astonished. I never thought he would win an appeal. Just when I hoped we had heard the last of him.

He hasn't won an appeal. The appeals court has agreed to look at the sentence, which is a totally unsurprising development given the nature of the case.

 

[Alyce]

He hasn't won an appeal. The appeals court has agreed to look at the sentence, which is a totally unsurprising development given the nature of the case.

Oops typing to fast there - I meant I never thought he would win the right to an appeal.

 

[Yenriac]

I am astonished. I never thought he would win an appeal. Just when I hoped we had heard the last of him.

Me too, i thought it would be rejected.
He's not won anything as yet, just been allowed the appeal to be heard. Even if the punishment part of his sentence is reduced i think it's highly unlikely that he'll ever be rehabilitated enough to get out.

 

[Cappuccino]

Oops typing to fast there - I meant I never thought he would win the right to an appeal.

I thought it was practically a foregone conclusion as soon as I read the details of the case. Both the crime and the age of the offender are so unusual that a first year law student could probably have put together a successful bid for the appeals court to look at it.

I don't anticipate any change to the sentence, if that happens I will be shocked but the hearing of an appeal doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

 

[Edinlass]

I thought it was practically a foregone conclusion as soon as I read the details of the case. Both the crime and the age of the offender are so unusual that a first year law student could probably have put together a successful bid for the appeals court to look at it.

I don't anticipate any change to the sentence, if that happens I will be shocked but the hearing of an appeal doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

Still a shock to most users here and a total kick in the teeth to Alesha’s family.

 

[Cappuccino]

Still a shock to most users here and a total kick in the teeth to Alesha’s family.

The wheels of the criminal justice system will grind through their usual motions regardless of how we feel here and even how the victims feel. And without wishing to sound callous to Alesha's family, with whom I have the utmost sympathy, no justice system should ever refuse to hear an appeal on the grounds that the victims family will be upset. He's either entitled to an appeal under the law or he isn't, feelings don't come into it.

 

[Alyce]

Still a shock to most users here and a total kick in the teeth to Alesha’s family.

Agree. I thought the Judge had locked it down enough for there to be no wriggle room. Obviously not.
Can only hope sentence might be increased although I realise this very rarely happens.
Still, I doubt he's going anywhere, even at the end of 27 years, or whatever figure he ends up with.

 

[Yenriac]

I thought it was practically a foregone conclusion as soon as I read the details of the case. Both the crime and the age of the offender are so unusual that a first year law student could probably have put together a successful bid for the appeals court to look at it.

I don't anticipate any change to the sentence, if that happens I will be shocked but the hearing of an appeal doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

But that's where I'm stuck, we don't know the full details of the case.
Some of the things he did were never revealed in court because they were so heinous, his QC even said in court at sentencing he wasn't used to dealing with something of this nature and he has defended a few sickos in is time.

The appeals board would be aware of these things. Which is why i'm surprised he was granted the appeal.

 

[Cappuccino]

But that's where I'm stuck, we don't know the full details of the case.
Some of the things he did were never revealed in court because they were so heinous, his QC even said in court at sentencing he wasn't used to dealing with something of this nature and he has defended a few sickos in is time.

The appeals board would be aware of these things. Which is why i'm surprised he was granted the appeal.

Nobody is used to dealing with things of this nature, even going on the details which have been made public. I guess that's why I am totally unsurprised by the granting of an appeal.

If they reduce the sentence I will be as outraged as the rest of you, but at the moment nothing has happened that I didn't already expect to happen.

 

[Yenriac]

Nobody is used to dealing with things of this nature, even going on the details which have been made public. I guess that's why I am totally unsurprised by the granting of an appeal.

If they reduce the sentence I will be as outraged as the rest of you, but at the moment nothing has happened that I didn't already expect to happen.

Well i suppose that's a matter of opinion, but we all know there was something done to that wee girl which was so bad it was excluded from the sentencing hearing. QC Brian McConnachie (his own defence) and the Judge were both disturbed. His QC has had many disturbing high profile cases. That's his job.

My point is that whatever it was that was not heard in court, bearing in mind that what was heard was bad enough must've been even more beyond comprehension than what we know he did. That information would be available to the appeals board. Which is why i'm and many other users are surprised by the granting of an appeal.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this.

 

[Cappuccino]

I do see your point, I guess I'm just assessing the likelihood of an appeal being heard on different grounds than the rest of you.

So if I sound like I'm being cold about it, I'm not really, I don't want this person to ever walk free again. Its just that I've been mentally prepared for this news since the day I heard the guilty verdict.

 

[tresir2012]

If the appeal is just about the sentence, then the actual crime is likely not to be discussed at all, I think. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't he plead guilty when he knew he was about to be mentally examined?

 

[Cappuccino]

If the appeal is just about the sentence, then the actual crime is likely not to be discussed at all, I think. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't he plead guilty when he knew he was about to be mentally examined?

No he didn't plead guilty at all. The circumstances of the crime will be looked at to assess aggravating and mitigating factors, but the conviction itself isn't being appealed.

 

[Alisajo]

MOO ... I feel the boy needs Sterilizing ..... He's a danger to other inmates I think. I hope he is never to be released.