UK UK - Andrew Gosden, 14, Doncaster, South Yorks, 14 Sep 2007 #2

[beubeubeu]

It's unlikely that he's alive otherwise he would've made contact by now or at least told the police he's fine and doesn't want to be in contact with anyone.

Would it be respected in a way that NO public statement and flooood of news about Andrew Gosden being alive and contacting police? Without dwelling WHY he stayed away, WHY he doesnt want to get in touch with his family, without baseless insinuation that his family must be horrible (while the reason of his disappearance might be not related to them doing anything wrong)? Without his family's further public pleas to get in touch with them?

There was a woman who ran away from her family after abusive husband attacked her and threatened to kill her. She reported it, he kept acting same way (allegedly) so she ran away. His actions were enough for cops to consider him a suspect in her murder as they knew he was abusive and aggressive. Long decades later she got located, her current pics (with a source listed as cop's archive) ended up all over the media, she got doxed and portrayed as evil maniac who ruined her ex husbands life by framing him into her murder (by disappearing). Some people were understanding, most were pretty aggressive with their comments, family were posting horrific insults about her.

It should be simple: you notify cops, explain or nor explain your reasoning and investigation ends, nobody wastes money on searching upon making sure youre safe but it doesnt work like that. Or maybe it does for some people, but available examples suggest extreme public scrutiny (to the very least).

 

[beubeubeu]

Take this with a grain of salt. Someone on Reddit said their parents are friends with Andrew's and that they hang out a lot in the same circle. They said that his parents seem painstakingly normal and that nothing seems off about them. They don't say anything about his disappearance that hasn't already been shared with the media. Honestly, based on interviews they've given they seem rather normal and I'm inclined to think this is probably true. I mean, his dad is posting other missing children on Facebook and really doing all that he can for others. A narcissist would make it all about them. Look at JonBenet Ramsey's brother on Dr. Phil. He was acting erratic and weird. He was giving off some strange vibes. Andrew's parents have always acted sane in every interview. They seem like well-rounded standard church goers. Not the kind that think they are holier than though but just I'm there for community and friendship sort of vibes. If they had been narcissistic or something then someone in their tiny village would come out and say so. Small town villages love to talk. YUNGBLUD is from Doncaster and even he said in an interview that it's just a boring town that's full of rather poor people, but it's got its characters and people talk.

If they were narcissistic and (to the very least) unpleasant people then resentment would be most likely reason for staying away - in the theoretical scenario of Andrew or someone_like_Andrew willingly running away.
But if not - it still would be possible for staying hidden despite of not resenting and even missing family.

"Possible" like within that 0,1% chance that someone is still alive after going missing as a teen and having almost two decades passing I'd say that like 80% (of that 0.1%) would be caused by family being terrible and 20% with something else.
So Im absolutely not leaning hard on this "theory", just saying that it wouldnt have to be caused by resentment towards family. Less probable within next-to-miraculous (of him being still alive).
But if his parents are cool & normal... that just furtherly slims the chances of him being alive.

 

[warp3dwing]

Take this with a grain of salt. Someone on Reddit said their parents are friends with Andrew's and that they hang out a lot in the same circle. They said that his parents seem painstakingly normal and that nothing seems off about them. They don't say anything about his disappearance that hasn't already been shared with the media. Honestly, based on interviews they've given they seem rather normal and I'm inclined to think this is probably true. I mean, his dad is posting other missing children on Facebook and really doing all that he can for others. A narcissist would make it all about them. Look at JonBenet Ramsey's brother on Dr. Phil. He was acting erratic and weird. He was giving off some strange vibes. Andrew's parents have always acted sane in every interview. They seem like well-rounded standard church goers. Not the kind that think they are holier than though but just I'm there for community and friendship sort of vibes. If they had been narcissistic or something then someone in their tiny village would come out and say so. Small town villages love to talk. YUNGBLUD is from Doncaster and even he said in an interview that it's just a boring town that's full of rather poor people, but it's got its characters and people talk.

The Gosdens really do seem genuinely saddened and perplexed by Andrew's disappearance. No bad vibes at all. It's Andrew that seemed to be the "different" one. Smart, strange, and apparently secretive.

 

[vagab0nd]

The Gosdens really do seem genuinely saddened and perplexed by Andrew's disappearance. No bad vibes at all. It's Andrew that seemed to be the "different" one. Smart, strange, and apparently secretive.

Especially the video of his mum handing out missing posters. She seemed genuinely worried. Maybe his sister was trying to gain work experience for The Duke of Edinburgh's Award (DofE)? It's a voluntary school program thing you can do. My SIL did it and she said she did work experience at 14 for it for a brief time then got an adult to sign off that she did it. Though I think if that's the case then that would've been explained. My husband said he doesn't remember anyone weird or creepy from his NAGTY experience. He said most RAs didn't really care about the children and just wanted volunteer credit because it might look good on a CV. So then maybe Andrew had been going to London alone prior and not getting caught? Though if that's plausible then how did he get the money to go? Did he have more money prior to birthday money? Was he getting an allowance? It's unusual for British kids to get an allowance according to the ones I know. It's expensive to go to London so I'm not sure. Anything is possible. Even if some sleuther went round London trying to recreate his maybe steps there still wouldn't be anything to say.

 

[vagab0nd]

Especially the video of his mum handing out missing posters. She seemed genuinely worried. Maybe his sister was trying to gain work experience for The Duke of Edinburgh's Award (DofE)? It's a voluntary school program thing you can do. My SIL did it and she said she did work experience at 14 for it for a brief time then got an adult to sign off that she did it. Though I think if that's the case then that would've been explained. My husband said he doesn't remember anyone weird or creepy from his NAGTY experience. He said most RAs didn't really care about the children and just wanted volunteer credit because it might look good on a CV. So then maybe Andrew had been going to London alone prior and not getting caught? Though if that's plausible then how did he get the money to go? Did he have more money prior to birthday money? Was he getting an allowance? It's unusual for British kids to get an allowance according to the ones I know. It's expensive to go to London so I'm not sure. Anything is possible. Even if some sleuther went round London trying to recreate his maybe steps there still wouldn't be anything to say.

To add: My husband said the NAGTY forums didn't allow direct messaging or private chat. He said they were moderated like Reddit and other forums so you couldn't swear or say anything inappropriate. Anything you posted was public and linked to your name. Your username was linked to your identity like Jane Doe linked to student number 123445 or John Smith as 6779483. You could easily distinguish who was who. He added a couple of NAGTY people on Steam, but hasn't chattef to them in over 20 years. One moved to Greece and just generally only on FB which me and my husband don't have/use. He also said he never had alone time or one on one time with adults or teachers. He had to stay with the group or you'd get told off. He said the experience was rather bland and standard. He got an award but it never meant anything. It didn't make a difference to him getting into university. They didn't emphase that he was smart so should do his best. He was just there to do a chemistry thing and that's how they treated it.

 

[vagab0nd]

I missed this before, what's the story of this photo?

It definitely looks like Andrew to me, and Camden would make a lot of sense in terms of a place he might plan to go.

In those days Camden was a destination place for any teenager wanting to shop for grungy, affordable, music related clothing and accessories. Nowadays everything there is available online and overpriced in store, but back then it was definitely the kind of place you'd want to head to do some shopping to get hold of stuff you couldn't get elsewhere.

To me this would make sense of the withdrawal of cash, because lots of the market stalls only took cash.

And it would be a reasonable plan to make to go in and out in a day.

Very accessible from kings cross.

And, crucially, super busy at weekends, so much better to go during the week.

As well as this, I can imagine then - as now - plenty of shady characters hanging around. Very possible to get chatting to the wrong person.

Even if this photo isn't Andrew, for me him planning a trip into Camden makes total sense.

Bellmont St on Google Maps is just a bunch of 70s style block of flats?

 

[vagab0nd]

Bellmont St on Google Maps is just a bunch of 70s style block of flats?

Harvey & Thompson (H&T): A long-standing pawnbroker and jewelry shop located at 36 Chalk Farm Road, almost directly opposite the market is located right near where this photo was taken. Is it possible maybe Andrew sold his PSP at the pawn shop? Probably a stretch. The flats are also newish and weren't around at the time so there goes that theory.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Then again, could you imagine the animosity that would be directed toward Andrew should he reappear now?!

I think if able to, he would have sent his family a letter with enough information to know it was really from him. They wouldn't have had to let the public know and could find peace knowing whatever he would write. So IMO he is not able to "reappear."

It doesn't rule out being alive or even something like amnesia, but now I'm get into far-fetched ideas and... will stop.

 

[vagab0nd]

I think if able to, he would have sent his family a letter with enough information to know it was really from him. They wouldn't have had to let the public know and could find peace knowing whatever he would write. So IMO he is not able to "reappear."

It doesn't rule out being alive or even something like amnesia, but now I'm get into far-fetched ideas and... will stop.

I'm sure the family would give the letter to their police expert handling the case to analyse if it did happen. There's no way they'd keep it to themselves. That seems odd.

 

[warp3dwing]

Especially the video of his mum handing out missing posters. She seemed genuinely worried. Maybe his sister was trying to gain work experience for The Duke of Edinburgh's Award (DofE)? It's a voluntary school program thing you can do. My SIL did it and she said she did work experience at 14 for it for a brief time then got an adult to sign off that she did it. Though I think if that's the case then that would've been explained. My husband said he doesn't remember anyone weird or creepy from his NAGTY experience. He said most RAs didn't really care about the children and just wanted volunteer credit because it might look good on a CV. So then maybe Andrew had been going to London alone prior and not getting caught? Though if that's plausible then how did he get the money to go? Did he have more money prior to birthday money? Was he getting an allowance? It's unusual for British kids to get an allowance according to the ones I know. It's expensive to go to London so I'm not sure. Anything is possible. Even if some sleuther went round London trying to recreate his maybe steps there still wouldn't be anything to say.

According to the Gosdens, they’ve said they would’ve let Andrew go to London. So, there doesn't really seem to be a great reason to skive off on a school day, ruining his attendance. Whether it was for work experience or fun, it appears that a little coordination from his parents would’ve been all he needed to travel there without worry (on a weekend).

You’d think that if he was going to seek work experience, that would’ve required some pre-planning with the organizations he would be visiting (and attire a bit more biz casual than a Slipknot tshirt). Surely, no cover sheets were found in the printer queue! Plus, there would’ve been no need to hide a trip like that.

I’m not sure if Andrew had an allowance or how he accrued the small amount of funds in his account. It doesn’t seem like he had much use for pocket money. The Gosdens appear generous and willing to buy games and systems for him.

It is interesting that he took £200 from his account but not the £100 in birthday cash. I think that’s telling, but I’m not sure of what, exactly - apart from that he knew he wouldn’t need it. So, probably didn’t have a plan to start a new life on a few hundred quid. Perhaps he had planned to return home, or maybe that’s all he needed to get to his destination, final or otherwise.

Someone on Reddit who used to commute to King’s X daily mentioned that the way Andrew left the station was odd. There isn’t much out that way apart from a bus stop, a McDonald’s, and a short walk to the ThamesLink to take travelers to points south (and airports). Or, of course, walking access to anywhere.

I wish we had ONE MORE data point! Was he really at Pizza Hut on Oxford St and Tottenham Court Road, or is that a red herring?

Thanks for sharing your husband’s experience with NAGTY. It sounds like it would have been a fun experience, and tightly controlled to boot. No DM ability on the forum is great intel too. Surely, LE have looked into that angle by now.

The poor Gosdens must still be so frustrated and devastated by all this. I feel terrible for them.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

I'm sure the family would give the letter to their police expert handling the case to analyse if it did happen. There's no way they'd keep it to themselves. That seems odd.

I agree that if they ever did receive anything like a letter, they'd give it to the investigative team, but I don't think they'd tell the public, for various reasons.

 

[vagab0nd]

I agree that if they ever did receive anything like a letter, they'd give it to the investigative team, but I don't think they'd tell the public, for various reasons.

I never knew this, but when Shawn Hornbeck was missing he wrote cryptic messages on his family's missing page. I don't understand why he didn't just say outright he was missing or whatever, but the family chalked it up to trolls and never investigated it until a year later. Maybe Andrew has left cryptic messages somewhere? Doubtful because they'd surely have been found by now, but it's impossible to know when Andyroo is a common username/nickname.

 

[vagab0nd]

According to the Gosdens, they’ve said they would’ve let Andrew go to London. So, there doesn't really seem to be a great reason to skive off on a school day, ruining his attendance. Whether it was for work experience or fun, it appears that a little coordination from his parents would’ve been all he needed to travel there without worry (on a weekend).

You’d think that if he was going to seek work experience, that would’ve required some pre-planning with the organizations he would be visiting (and attire a bit more biz casual than a Slipknot tshirt). Surely, no cover sheets were found in the printer queue! Plus, there would’ve been no need to hide a trip like that.

I’m not sure if Andrew had an allowance or how he accrued the small amount of funds in his account. It doesn’t seem like he had much use for pocket money. The Gosdens appear generous and willing to buy games and systems for him.

It is interesting that he took £200 from his account but not the £100 in birthday cash. I think that’s telling, but I’m not sure of what, exactly - apart from that he knew he wouldn’t need it. So, probably didn’t have a plan to start a new life on a few hundred quid. Perhaps he had planned to return home, or maybe that’s all he needed to get to his destination, final or otherwise.

Someone on Reddit who used to commute to King’s X daily mentioned that the way Andrew left the station was odd. There isn’t much out that way apart from a bus stop, a McDonald’s, and a short walk to the ThamesLink to take travelers to points south (and airports). Or, of course, walking access to anywhere.

I wish we had ONE MORE data point! Was he really at Pizza Hut on Oxford St and Tottenham Court Road, or is that a red herring?

Thanks for sharing your husband’s experience with NAGTY. It sounds like it would have been a fun experience, and tightly controlled to boot. No DM ability on the forum is great intel too. Surely, LE have looked into that angle by now.

The poor Gosdens must still be so frustrated and devastated by all this. I feel terrible for them.

I met a woman when I first went to university at 17/18. She never had an allowance growing up. Her parents worked in finance as CPAs. The only money she got growing up was lunch money change. For her high school graduation she received like $500 and opened her first bank account. Initially she didn't want to go to college so she took a plane like seven states away to meet an online friend from Facebook. She thought she could just apply for a job at the local McDonald's or grocery store and get the job and be able to afford rent. She gets to the airport and the gaming friend doesn't pull up. She gets a text from his father (someone claiming to be him anyways) and says X has leukemia and can't meet you. So obviously a catfish and she didn't think to webcam him or anything. She ends up at a hotel. Gets rejected from McDonald's, grocery stores, and every fast food place in the area. She ends up calling her Aunt who gets her a plane ticket home and then she decides to enroll into university as if nothing had happened. I asked her why she did something so stupid and she said she just wanted to fall in love and get married and have her own family. Not because hers wasn't great, but she didn't have many friends and thought love was the greatest thing. She really did believe that she could survive on little money and live off whatever minimum wage was at the time which I think was like $7.65/HR. Maybe Andrew really did just want to get away from his old life. Not because his family weren't good people but because he wanted to rush into adulthood. Seems unlikely, but you never know. We all do stupid things and think stupid things when we are young. You could have parents in financial careers and still not being financially literate.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Yes, some people think love will be enough, for better or worse. Where cost of living was low back then, maybe you could have survived on minimum wage. Anyway some people want that commitment and connection so much. Heck, I would have met a stranger off the Internet just for the chance at a mere friendship.

Hard to say if Andrew would have gone to meet a stranger, but I have no doubt some high school boys would have, including in 2007.

 

[warp3dwing]

I met a woman when I first went to university at 17/18. She never had an allowance growing up. Her parents worked in finance as CPAs. The only money she got growing up was lunch money change. For her high school graduation she received like $500 and opened her first bank account. Initially she didn't want to go to college so she took a plane like seven states away to meet an online friend from Facebook. She thought she could just apply for a job at the local McDonald's or grocery store and get the job and be able to afford rent. She gets to the airport and the gaming friend doesn't pull up. She gets a text from his father (someone claiming to be him anyways) and says X has leukemia and can't meet you. So obviously a catfish and she didn't think to webcam him or anything. She ends up at a hotel. Gets rejected from McDonald's, grocery stores, and every fast food place in the area. She ends up calling her Aunt who gets her a plane ticket home and then she decides to enroll into university as if nothing had happened. I asked her why she did something so stupid and she said she just wanted to fall in love and get married and have her own family. Not because hers wasn't great, but she didn't have many friends and thought love was the greatest thing. She really did believe that she could survive on little money and live off whatever minimum wage was at the time which I think was like $7.65/HR. Maybe Andrew really did just want to get away from his old life. Not because his family weren't good people but because he wanted to rush into adulthood. Seems unlikely, but you never know. We all do stupid things and think stupid things when we are young. You could have parents in financial careers and still not being financially literate.

Wow, sounds like your friend got wrapped up with a shady guy. That's really scary, actually. I'm glad she managed to get herself out of that situation safely.

If Andrew wanted to start a new life, wouldn't he have taken the remaining money available to him, as meagre as those funds were?

I've often wondered if the birthday cash was placed somewhere rather obvious in his room: in a chest of drawers, on a desk, etc. If so, maybe Andrew didn't want his parents to find it missing, which in his mind, might have bought him more time before the proverbial alarm bells rang. He had no way of knowing that the school would call the wrong house, and that his parents wouldn't be aware of his absence until 7pm.

Another thing that came to mind is that Andrew withdrew his entire savings while still in Balby, for no apparent reason - unless it was to hide his tracks in the long run. Carrying surplus cash on one's person isn't the best idea, and you'd think even a fourteen-year-old would know that. He had been to London with family and probably had be warned to keep a close eye on his possessions.

I don't know which bank he used, but surely a branch could be found in London, or any number of cashpoints to take out money in smaller increments. Or, he could've just swiped it as a debit card at larger retailers (I can't remember whether scanners were much in use back in 2007 at smaller shops).

But I think he knew that bank activity would be traced once his disappearance was discovered, and he didn't want that to happen. Of course, that would only become a concern after having been missing for days, not hours. This, to me, lends credence to Andrew forming a premeditated plan to leave home for good:

1. Smart but lonely kid
2. Was in a "quiet period", according to family
3. Odd behaviors leading up to disappearance (twice walking home from school alone)
4. Complete pattern of life change the day of his disappearance
5. Intentional hiding of his tracks
6. Taking out cash (but not all of it) - has a plan in mind with a specific end
7. No trace of communications with anyone else
8. Strange choice to leave King's X on foot and not take tube (see #5)

To me, unless we manufacture evidence like surreptitious communications using secret mobile phones, it seems like Andrew had a plan and likely pulled it off, whatever it was.

Sure, he could be the unluckiest kid ever and got abducted in broad daylight by a murderer, but I don't think that's likely. I don't think he would let anyone distract him from his goal.

 

[vagab0nd]

Wow, sounds like your friend got wrapped up with a shady guy. That's really scary, actually. I'm glad she managed to get herself out of that situation safely.

If Andrew wanted to start a new life, wouldn't he have taken the remaining money available to him, as meagre as those funds were?

I've often wondered if the birthday cash was placed somewhere rather obvious in his room: in a chest of drawers, on a desk, etc. If so, maybe Andrew didn't want his parents to find it missing, which in his mind, might have bought him more time before the proverbial alarm bells rang. He had no way of knowing that the school would call the wrong house, and that his parents wouldn't be aware of his absence until 7pm.

Another thing that came to mind is that Andrew withdrew his entire savings while still in Balby, for no apparent reason - unless it was to hide his tracks in the long run. Carrying surplus cash on one's person isn't the best idea, and you'd think even a fourteen-year-old would know that. He had been to London with family and probably had be warned to keep a close eye on his possessions.

I don't know which bank he used, but surely a branch could be found in London, or any number of cashpoints to take out money in smaller increments. Or, he could've just swiped it as a debit card at larger retailers (I can't remember whether scanners were much in use back in 2007 at smaller shops).

But I think he knew that bank activity would be traced once his disappearance was discovered, and he didn't want that to happen. Of course, that would only become a concern after having been missing for days, not hours. This, to me, lends credence to Andrew forming a premeditated plan to leave home for good:

1. Smart but lonely kid
2. Was in a "quiet period", according to family
3. Odd behaviors leading up to disappearance (twice walking home from school alone)
4. Complete pattern of life change the day of his disappearance
5. Intentional hiding of his tracks
6. Taking out cash (but not all of it) - has a plan in mind with a specific end
7. No trace of communications with anyone else
8. Strange choice to leave King's X on foot and not take tube (see #5)

To me, unless we manufacture evidence like surreptitious communications using secret mobile phones, it seems like Andrew had a plan and likely pulled it off, whatever it was.

Sure, he could be the unluckiest kid ever and got abducted in broad daylight by a murderer, but I don't think that's likely. I don't think he would let anyone distract him from his goal.

I'm definitely in agreement with you. Many kids play hookey at least once. What are the chances that he did exactly the same and got killed in broad daylight? Come on. You're more likely to be struck my lightning or something. I've been to London many times during work/school times and in the evenings near Camden. Nobody has ever come up to me to harass me. Everyone seems to mind their own business. I did get asked for directions once but it was inside Waterloo Station by an old gentleman with a thick German accent. I haven't ever seen anything suspicious. I have a baby face so I look younger than I am. It's hard to buy that he was met with evil when he arrived. Maybe he did and that thwarted his plan and now he's dead or in someone's loft. I don't know.

It's also hard to buy the suicide theory. He seemed like a well rounded kid. His sister described their relationship as being best friends and all around a loving brother. I'm struggling to see a reason as to why he would end his life. He didn't seem to mind school and he did well at it. It's not like he was failing his classes. My husband said getting into NAGTY is like being a valedictorian at American high school. You have to have like perfect straight As to get in. One failing grade and you won't get into the program. At least that's how it was for him in 2007.

We will never know his plan. It was probably kept to himself or in his messenger bag. No one has ever talked about what he carried in that thing. My husband carries a notebook in his at all times with a pen and I carry around my Hobonichi. Did maybe Andrew have a similar notebook and pen in his bag? What could he have possibly been carrying in such a medium size bag? I don't know.

It seems everyone under the sun on all kinds of platforms keep speculating the same theories over and over. We really don't have anything new to go on and it's probably frustrating for everyone.

 

[warp3dwing]

I'm definitely in agreement with you. Many kids play hookey at least once. What are the chances that he did exactly the same and got killed in broad daylight? Come on. You're more likely to be struck my lightning or something. I've been to London many times during work/school times and in the evenings near Camden. Nobody has ever come up to me to harass me. Everyone seems to mind their own business. I did get asked for directions once but it was inside Waterloo Station by an old gentleman with a thick German accent. I haven't ever seen anything suspicious. I have a baby face so I look younger than I am. It's hard to buy that he was met with evil when he arrived. Maybe he did and that thwarted his plan and now he's dead or in someone's loft. I don't know.

It's also hard to buy the suicide theory. He seemed like a well rounded kid. His sister described their relationship as being best friends and all around a loving brother. I'm struggling to see a reason as to why he would end his life. He didn't seem to mind school and he did well at it. It's not like he was failing his classes. My husband said getting into NAGTY is like being a valedictorian at American high school. You have to have like perfect straight As to get in. One failing grade and you won't get into the program. At least that's how it was for him in 2007.

We will never know his plan. It was probably kept to himself or in his messenger bag. No one has ever talked about what he carried in that thing. My husband carries a notebook in his at all times with a pen and I carry around my Hobonichi. Did maybe Andrew have a similar notebook and pen in his bag? What could he have possibly been carrying in such a medium size bag? I don't know.

It seems everyone under the sun on all kinds of platforms keep speculating the same theories over and over. We really don't have anything new to go on and it's probably frustrating for everyone.

I feel like the random abduction theory seems more likely for people who don't live in big cities and view them as death traps. I don't live in London, but I do live in NYC, which is commensurate in many ways. Just think of the thousands of fourteen-year-olds walking the streets every day with no tragedy befalling them!

Sure, grifters can smell an out-of-towner "mark" from a mile away, but murder is never the goal.

As far as suicide goes, I'm not so sure. Very successful people kill themselves for reasons none of us can fathom. I would argue that there were some red flags with Andrew, too. Heck, Andrew's dad attempted it; maybe it's "in his genes."

I'm reminded of the recent tragic death of the woman in Chicago who got up early, left her husband in bed, drove to Lake Michigan, and jumped in. Just like that.

To me, suicide seems the most likely theory, absent of any other evidence. It more statistically likely that random abduction. There is no evidence of grooming or communication with anyone else. It seems he meant to disappear. One of his favorite shows was about a man who faked his own disappearance. But I don't think he could've stayed under the radar for this long, and £200 isn't going to buy anyone a new identity.

If he did commit suicide, I don't think it was in London, and I have my doubts he was in London for long.

That's interesting you mention notebooks as there were some posts from alleged classmates that Andrew kept a "black book" of some sort where he kept a list of students' names he disliked. If the poster was actually a classmate, it's an interesting observation even if the "list" part is simply idle gossip. It would indicate that his classmates found him a bit strange in some way.

From the CCTV footage, it doesn't look like there's much in his bag, does it?