GUILTY UK - Arrest in 1987 'Bedsit Murders' of Wendy Knell, 25, and Caroline Pierce, 20, in Kent

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wow…those are the murders @SaintGertrude has been recently discussing.

Extract from MSM:

Det Chief Supt Paul Fotheringham, of Kent Police, said: “The investigation remains ongoing, but at this stage there is no evidence to connect Fuller to any other murder victims.”

Police investigating morgue monster David Fuller in connection with two unsolved murders

The police would be criticised if they did not review such outstanding cases in the light of DF's guilt.

I would think that such a review of any possible evidential material, clothing or other property recovered and retained in those outstanding cases has already been submitted for updated forensic examination, if feasible.

Neverthess, it would provide justice and assist with closure for families and friends, if evidential links and guilt could be proven beyond all reasonable doubt.
 
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Extract from MSM:

Det Chief Supt Paul Fotheringham, of Kent Police, said: “The investigation remains ongoing, but at this stage there is no evidence to connect Fuller to any other murder victims.”

Police investigating morgue monster David Fuller in connection with two unsolved murders

The police would be criticised if they did not review such outstanding cases in the light of DF's guilt.

I would think that such a review of any possible evidential material, clothing or other property recovered and retained in those outstanding cases has already been submitted for updated forensic examination, if feasible.

Neverthess, it would provide justice and assist with closure for families and friends, if evidential links and guilt could be proven beyond all reasonable doubt.

IMO, Wendy's murder was too "slick" to be his first ever murder, if that makes sense. No-one heard anything, he was quick, knew where to strike and certainly did not hesitate.
 
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wow…those are the murders @SaintGertrude has been recently discussing.[/QUOTE]
Yes this is most interesting. Remember Lord Peter Flimsy found the article about Jean having worked in Camden Road, then the fact that the cycling club tour to Bedgebury. I get a feeling there may be more to come.
 
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Between 1985 and 1986, a work colleague of Fuller's wife had moved to the same road where Caroline was later jumped by Fuller. She lived at number 57 and the property backed on to an ally and the graveyard. Looks to be around a 10 metre distance between number 57 and 27 rear gardens via the graveyard. Caroline lived at number 27.

Fuller and his wife had visited number 57 as guests of his wife's friend.

His wife's friend stated the following at the trial:
I wonder too if Fuller had any unhealthy obsession with graveyards. Placophilia is where individuals derive sexual pleasure and arousal from tombstones. I think his TW ex lived next to a grave yard as well although he may have not continued a friendship as no children in his second marriage
 
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I wonder too if Fuller had any unhealthy obsession with graveyards. Placophilia is where individuals derive sexual pleasure and arousal from tombstones. I think his TW ex lived next to a grave yard as well although he may have not continued a friendship as no children in his second marriage
Can it get even scarier???
 
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I believe his shift pattern was 11am - 7pm with the time period between 4pm and 7pm being when no-one was in the morgue.
Thanks, was this work patten mentioned in a newspaper article you read.
The early morning car drives when Fuller was living in Heathfield to me ring alarm bells if no reason for his absences from home at those hours in the morning. The hours are after night clubs close and not dogging hours. There are a number of theories we could establish, voyeuristic reasons which involved peeping through open windows, local burglaries, M25 cat killer, rabbit baiting, visiting graveyards, sleeping with prostitutes etc. We may never get to find out.
Necrophiliac killer 'kept blinds closed for 18 years and never made eye contact'
Quote: they often heard him heard him driving off at 2am or 3am but had no idea where he was going.
 
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Thanks, was this work patten mentioned in a newspaper article you read.
The early morning car drives when Fuller was living in Heathfield to me ring alarm bells if no reason for his absences from home at those hours in the morning. The hours are after night clubs close and not dogging hours. There are a number of theories we could establish, voyeuristic reasons which involved peeping through open windows, local burglaries, cat killer, rabbit baiting, visiting graveyards, sleeping with prostitutes etc. We may never get to find out.
Necrophiliac killer 'kept blinds closed for 18 years and never made eye contact'
Quote: they often heard him heard him driving off at 2am or 3am but had no idea where he was going.
Sometimes ignorance is a blessing!
What do you mean by "rabbit baiting"??
 
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Sometimes ignorance is a blessing!
What do you mean by "rabbit baiting"??
He would have probably needed a dog. People go up to the South Downs with a head torch and a dog or a ferret to bait rabbits for the stew pot.
More likely to have been bird watching though as we know he had this hobby. He may have had an hours drive to watch the dawn choruses.
 
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One bit of info I read last week was that Fuller's father died at age 40 - Fuller would have still been in his teens. I thought I read that on the live trial report but I now cannot find the mention.

Makes me wonder if that would have been Fuller's first experience of observing a dead person: either when the father died or an open casket at the father's funeral.
 
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Another possibility I have taken into consideration for his early morning car drives could be Horam Manor Fishery open 24 hours
 

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So many families affected by this monster!!!! It’s hard dealing with a loved ones death, I cannot imagine how it would feel getting the news of what he did to them. So much heartache. How would you even cope!
 
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I’m so pleased that the long forgotten about 1982 Jean Brook murder is possibly being linked.

The Police at the time didn’t believe the 1979 murder at Bedgebury was linked. For what’s it worth I believe the Police had their man for that crime.

Jean Brook’s murder appears far more brazen. To murder someone having a picnic at the side of an A road in the middle of a warm June day. Of course a cyclist could have gone along the secluded Park Lane which cuts through Bedgebury Forest from the B2079 onto the entrance of the A229 where Jean Brook was sitting. The perpetrator may already have known her movements as she had picnicked there before including earlier that week. Perhaps she had agreed to meet there?
 
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I’m so pleased that the long forgotten about 1982 Jean Brook murder is possibly being linked.

The Police at the time didn’t believe the 1979 murder at Bedgebury was linked. For what’s it worth I believe the Police had their man for that crime.

Jean Brook’s murder appears far more brazen. To murder someone having a picnic at the side of an A road in the middle of a warm June day. Of course a cyclist could have gone along the secluded Park Lane which cuts through Bedgebury Forest from the B2079 onto the entrance of the A229 where Jean Brook was sitting. The perpetrator may already have known her movements as she had picnicked there before including earlier that week. Perhaps she had agreed to meet there?
Jane Doe murder before Jean Brook murder was a case where the accused was found not guilty. He said she was on her way to Dover to meet friends before going to Scotland. Pensioner is cleared of mystery murder. - Free Online Library
 
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This is the junction of Park Lane that Jean Brook was sitting having her picnic when she was murdered and found just up the lane.
 

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Jane Doe murder before Jean Brook murder was a case where the accused was found not guilty. He said she was on her way to Dover to meet friends before going to Scotland. Pensioner is cleared of mystery murder. - Free Online Library
We know only that Fuller was having problems with his first marriage around the late 1970/'s or early 1980's and would spend some time at his friends in Tonbridge. His Grandparents lived somewhere near Romney Marsh so approx 20 miles away from Dover where Jane Doe was allegedly heading after Pennell dropped her off. It would be difficult to establish her hitchhiking route from the A20 in Eltham, South London to Dover. Here is map attached showing distance from the sort of area Fuller's both sets of Grandparents who he often visited lived. Do we know the exact town they lived in? I am surprised if Fuller is being looked into for Bedgebury 1979 Jane Doe as to why he would have choosen Bedgebury rather than Romney Marsh.
 

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