UK - Arthur Labinjo Hughes, 6, killed, dad & friend arrested, June 2020

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  • #421
This is a sharp contrast to ET accounts of Arthur hitting out and swearing at her. She contradicts herself, ET step father's account doesn't paint a picture of an aggressive, misbehaved little boy, more like a terrified, neglected little boy to me.

Precisely this! And this is what we can only hope the jury are picking up on too.
 
  • #422
If I remember correctly school began telephoning TH after they were informed of JH contacting social services, TH told a catalog of lies, “he’s playing in the garden”, “we’re decorating his bedroom” and so on. From may the schools attempts at contact went unanswered.

Regarding social workers, there was a visit after JH took pictures, social worker claims no visible injuries. She was actually called back to the stand after medical experts testified that the bruises in the picture taken by JH would not have disappeared by the time of the social work visit. Social worker was given a chance to change her answers/evidence, but didn’t. Instead she stuck to saying there were no visible injuries. It’s unclear if the social worker spoke to Arthur alone at any point in the that visit.
 
  • #423
I think in Stars case, bio parent may well get the lesser charge. I don’t see that happening in this case at all if I’m honest, not with what I’ve read from TH police interviews. But anything is possible I guess.

I do believe the charges against were dropped in Gabriel’s case.

I actually have a friend that is a social worker also and she reports the same. The aim is to offer support and guidance so that family’s can stay together, it’s believed that it’s best to keep children with their biological parents. There’s 3 levels to their intervention - early help, child in need and child protection. And each comes with a checklist that the parent/parents must satisfy before they are deescalated from whichever plan they are on. If they consistently fail their targets, the child will be escalated up through the 3 levels. If they fail the checklist in child protection, that’s where children are removed. This only happens if a referral is deemed as valid though, and from what my friend told me, a lot of their checks regarding referrals, were majority carried out via phone. So for example - Mrs X reports Mrs Z to SS claiming Mrs X is concerned about screaming children in Mrs Z house, (MASH) or SS will call Mrs Z, relay their information, Mrs Z states that it’s her toddler screaming when having their hair washed, SS deem it feasible and NFA.
Good info there on how they escalate things, although I think a 0hone call would just alert the parent to be more crafty if they were actually abusing their child. The hair thing I can totally relate to, my daughter has curly hair and screams every time I wash/brush her hair, I'm surprised no one has actually referred me to SS yet, the way she cries
 
  • #424
10:20JAMES CARTLEDGE
Day 28 of the trial has begun
Good morning.

You join us for the 28th day of the trial.

Prosecutor Jonas Hankin continues to cross-examine Emma Tustin.


10:34KEY EVENT
'Sadness was the only emotion he knew how to feel'
Mr Hankin resumes on the topic of how Tustin swore at Arthur directly and 'insulted' him. He suggests she did it when she lost her temper.

Tustin: "Not because I lost my temper, I was just stressed and tired. I wasn't angry, I was just struggling."

Mr Hankin: "Arthur was terrorised in your house wasn't he?"

Tustin: "You could say he was terrorised, yes."

Mr Hankin reminds Tustin of Tobias Jarman's evidence that Arthur 'flinched' when he came near him. He asks if Arthur got to a point where he would flinch if any adult came close.

Tustin: "Yes. Because I had pulled him around by that time, clipped him as well. He was constantly abused by his father. Physically. He just didn't feel safe."

Mr Hankin asks Tustin if she thinks Arthur still loved her in June.

Tustin: "I don't think he had any feelings in June. I don't think he knew how to love anymore. Just sadness was the only emotion he knew how to feel."

Murder accused branded 'pitiless, cruel woman' who 'hated' boy - updates
 
  • #425
Mr Hankin asks Tustin if she thinks Arthur still loved her in June.

Tustin: "I don't think he had any feelings in June. I don't think he knew how to love anymore. Just sadness was the only emotion he knew how to feel."



That would be no to that question then. He didn't love her. Absolute rubbish about him not knowing how to love. It's Tustin herself who doesn't know how to love.
 
  • #426
10:38JAMES CARTLEDGE
Arthur 'flinched' away from Tustin


The court is shown a clip of Arthur moving away from Tustin in the living room. Tustin accepts Arthur 'flinched' away from her and says it was as a result of the incidents she has admitted to, including 'pulling' and 'clipping' Arthur.

Mr Hankin points out this particular clip was taken on June 13, before the incidents Tustin has just referred to.

He says: "You assaulted him many more times than you have been caught on camera."

Tustin: "No I did not."

She states it was the 'shouting and verbal abuse' that made Arthur flinch.

Mr Hankin: "Is this you twisting and turning again trying to meet the evidence?"

Tustin: "No I shouted at Arthur, he did always flinch."

Murder accused branded 'pitiless, cruel woman' who 'hated' boy - updates
 
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  • #427
10:47KEY EVENT
'He knew what he was in for if the blanket wasn't folded or done to the standard it should have been done'


The court is shown a CCTV still of Tustin in the living room. She is holding a parcel in her left hand and a knife in her right, pointing in the direction of the hallway.

Mr Hankin asks Tustin if it was 'appropriate' to 'brandish' a knife in this way towards Arthur.

Tustin insists she had the knife to open the parcel. She says: "I didn't think. I was talking to him not shouting at this point. I was just speaking to him."

The court is shown the living room footage which captured Arthur waking up on June 16.

Mr Hankin asks if it is 'distressing' to see.

Tustin: "It is heartbreaking, yes. I can see he's in pain. Struggling to get up. Can't even walk. He's limping."

Mr Hankin: "He knew unless he did precisely what he was told one or the other or both of you would beat him."

Tustin: "I wouldn't beat him no. He knew what he was in for if the blanket wasn't folded or done to the standard it should have been done."


Murder accused branded 'pitiless, cruel woman' who 'hated' boy - updates
 
  • #428
Tustin enrages me. I’m pretty sure Hughes will make me feel the same if/when he takes the stand. Pair of monsters.
 
  • #429
11:00JAMES CARTLEDGE
Tustin says she watched Arthur 'constantly'
Mr Hankin asks if it was 'coincidence' Arthur was knocked out - on June 16 - a day after Tustin texted: 'I'm going to be knocking him out if he continues'.

Tustin says it was a 'figure of speech' and it was a coincidence adding: "It's just unfortunate."

Mr Hankin returns to the image of bruising on Arthur's back which was taken on April 16. Tustin repeats they were not visible during the social services visit the following day.

Mr Hankin shows the court a picture of Arthur in a hot tub taken on April 21. He asks for the photograph to be zoomed in on his left shoulder.

Tustin agrees a bruise is visible adding: "You can see it's quite light."

Mr Hankin: "That little boy was in your household wearing shorts. Is it your evidence you didn't see those bruises on his shoulder?"

Tustin: "I didn't see them. I didn't pay any attention to it."

Mr Hankin challenges the response and says she paid attention to every detail of Arthur's behaviour and 'watched him like a hawk'.

In reply Tustin states she did 'watch him constantly'.

Murder accused branded 'pitiless, cruel woman' who 'hated' boy - updates
 
  • #430
11:32JAMES CARTLEDGE
Tustin denies encouraging Hughes to beat Arthur

Mr Hankin takes Tustin to a text message she sent to her mother in May saying 'F*** me he's had the smack of his life' which was accompanied by a number of 'kisses' - x's.

Tustin says it was Hughes who gave him that smack. She says if it was her she would not have sent the message.

Mr Hankin takes Tustin to messages she sent to Hughes on June 15 while still at Catherine Milhench's home. They said Arthur was 'punching doors' and that he wouldn't 'get off the floor'. Hughes replies 'right I'll bang his head'.

Mr Hankin: "You were telling Mr Hughes all of these things intending he would become angry. Intending he would inflict injuries."

Tustin: "No he was always angry. I was telling him about his child's behaviour in someone else's house. I didn't think he would go to the level of what he did."

Mr Hankin points out that Tustin had previously claimed Hughes had given Arthur the 'smack of his life' and pinned him against the door and headbutted him.

He says: "What's all this that you didn't know the lengths he would go to? The point, which I suggest is extremely clear, is you were encouraging Mr Hughes to beat Arthur weren't you?"

Tustin: "No, I was letting him know what his child was doing in somebody's house. If that was my child I would want to know."


11:33KEY EVENT
Tustin again denies poisoning Arthur with salt - 'I know I didn't do it'

Mr Hankin turns on to the topic of food. He asks Tustin what she put in it to make it 'unpalatable' for Arthur to eat.

Tustin denies she put anything in his food and says it was an 'element of control over his own life'.

Mr Hankin puts it to Tustin that she is 'cruel enough' to contaminate Arthur's food with salt.

Tustin: "Yes I have been cruel to him. I never knew salt poisoning was a thing until I saw it on the indictment."

Mr Hankin asks Tustin if she accepts Dr Malcom Coulthard's evidence that Arthur was salt poisoned.

Tustin: "I know I didn't do it."

Murder accused branded 'pitiless, cruel woman' who 'hated' boy - updates
 
  • #431
11:42JAMES CARTLEDGE
Tustin says salt in her bathroom was to help her with 'constant pain'
Mr Hankin asks Tustin to explain the presence of a salt container in her bathroom.

Tustin: "I used salt. It was always in the bathroom. Since 2013 when I fractured both sides of my pelvis I suffer with chronic pain in my pelvis, constant water infections, constant cystitis.

"My nan and my mum, for water infections, would have a salt water bath or wash. I was using salt in there to rub it onto myself to take the burning and stinging away."

Mr Hankin suggests the notion Tustin put undissolved salt on her genitals would be 'painful and unproductive'.

He adds: "This is another example of you being driven to say something that doesn't bear scrutiny."

Tustin: "It helps. It is something I've done since 2013."

Murder accused branded 'pitiless, cruel woman' who 'hated' boy - updates
 
  • #432
11:44JAMES CARTLEDGE
Prosecution says Tustin 'forced' Arthur to ingest salt
The picture Tustin took of Arthur crying on June 16 is shown to the court. Mr Hankin reads her text explanation to Hughes that Arthur threw himself up the wall and then hit his head off a rebounding door.

Mr Hankin argues Tustin's account does not fit with Arthur's visible state of distress. He asks why she did not comfort him instead of taking a photograph.

Tustin: "I didn't. I wasn't in a great place. I can't explain my behaviour. I can't explain it to the jury."

Mr Hankin: "This 22 minutes upstairs is when you poisoned Arthur. This mark and his distress is a consequence of you forcing him to ingest salt."

Tustin: "No that's not true."

A number of living room CCTV clips are played to the court. Mr Hankin puts it to Tustin that one of them shows her lifting Arthur 'off his feet'.

Tustin accepts she had the physical strength to lift Arthur off the floor with one arm.

Murder accused branded 'pitiless, cruel woman' who 'hated' boy - updates
 
  • #433
11:42JAMES CARTLEDGE
Tustin says salt in her bathroom was to help her with 'constant pain'
Mr Hankin asks Tustin to explain the presence of a salt container in her bathroom.

Tustin: "I used salt. It was always in the bathroom. Since 2013 when I fractured both sides of my pelvis I suffer with chronic pain in my pelvis, constant water infections, constant cystitis.

"My nan and my mum, for water infections, would have a salt water bath or wash. I was using salt in there to rub it onto myself to take the burning and stinging away."

Mr Hankin suggests the notion Tustin put undissolved salt on her genitals would be 'painful and unproductive'.

He adds: "This is another example of you being driven to say something that doesn't bear scrutiny."

Tustin: "It helps. It is something I've done since 2013."

Murder accused branded 'pitiless, cruel woman' who 'hated' boy - updates

That would incite more burning and stinging though, no?

Honestly, I just cannot with this woman….
 
  • #434
Tustin enrages me. I’m pretty sure Hughes will make me feel the same if/when he takes the stand. Pair of monsters.

Its very hard to listen to her, she is pure selfish and evil. To take photos of Arthur and not comfort him when he is crying takes a certain type of evil
 
  • #435
That would incite more burning and stinging though, no?

Honestly, I just cannot with this woman….
Yes, that would be the last thing you would put there, it would sting like crazy. Oh i hope she just admits to it, its so obvious she did it
 
  • #436
I genuinely cannot listen to her incessant claims of “poor me”. If she states one more time about her hard life and how much she struggled, I’m going to have to take a breather from this until she’s off the stand because I can’t watch a perpetrator, deflect and twist the narrative to that of victim.
 
  • #437
Yes, that would be the last thing you would put there, it would sting like crazy. Oh i hope she just admits to it, its so obvious she did it
Bath salts put to water while taking a bath soothe joints pain.
Well, it is advertised that way.
 
  • #438
Tustin denies she put anything in his food and says it was an 'element of control over his own life'.
In one recording, Arthur said, 'Please help me, help me uncle, they're not feeding me, I need some food and a drink'.

In others, he sobs: 'No-one loves me. No-one is going to feed me today.'

Arthur Labinjo-Hughes murder trial: Father threatened to gag son with a rope, court hears | Daily Mail Online


On one recording he was heard saying 'No-one's going to feed me today' and in another 'I want dinner and a drink today'.

'Daddy's going to throw me out window' - Boy's cries played to court
 
  • #439
I genuinely cannot listen to her incessant claims of “poor me”. If she states one more time about her hard life and how much she struggled, I’m going to have to take a breather from this until she’s off the stand because I can’t watch a perpetrator, deflect and twist the narrative to that of victim.
And she is probably feeling so hard done by that she has to stand up in court, the inconvenience Arthur is causing her, she is unreal!!
 
  • #440
It is distressing beyond any other case I have come across, and the temptation is to not read her pathetic responses but this is probably the only time in her life she will be forced to answer questions about his ordeal, and so the longer she is made to sit there and have her feet held to the fire the better. I feel this is Arthur's justice because no one, in authority, who could do anything for him did listen to him during his little life.
 
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