UK - Arthur Labinjo Hughes, 6, killed, dad & friend arrested, June 2020

[Tinksx]

None of his family will be up thats for sure

Correct. They were the prosecutions witnesses, therefore cannot be used as defence witnesses.

 

[Dotta]

Anyone else think TH is coming across very well rehearsed? I'm not buying it for a second, but he does seem somehow more 'normal' than ET.

He looks like a pupil at school forced to apologise in front of a head teacher (Jury).

 

[ScottishSam]

It was clever of Prosecutor to point out that Arthur didnt feel comfortable with TH even before they moved to ET house (schoolyard incident).

I don't know about this part. If my kids are playing up my son has been known to laugh and say something similar. I genuinely don't believe he was abusive to Arthur before he met ET. His family would have reported him if he had been.

 

[ChloLo]

There does seem to be more evidence coming up but trial is adjourned until tomorrow because of health concerns for ET. Has she suddenly grown a conscience?!

Either TH is well rehearsed, or this is his truth. I find some of it plausible.

 

[Tinksx]

14:43JAMES CARTLEDGE
Trial is adjourned until Wednesday
The jury is called back into court.

Judge Wall addresses them and says Tustin is to be taken to hospital due to concerns for her health.

He says she is 'entitled to be present throughout her own trial' and therefore it is not possible to proceed with the evidence further this afternoon.

The trial is not sitting tomorrow and Judge Wall adjourns the case until 10.30am on Wednesday.

Dad accused of murdering son branded a 'short-tempered, wicked man' - updates

 

[ScottishSam]

@Tinksx thankyou for the updates today

 

[Dotta]

I don't know about this part. If my kids are playing up my son has been known to laugh and say something similar. I genuinely don't believe he was abusive to Arthur before he met ET. His family would have reported him if he had been.

Hmmm...
Do you think Im prejudiced to TH haha?

 

[Tinksx]

There does seem to be more evidence coming up but trial is adjourned until tomorrow because of health concerns for ET. Has she suddenly grown a conscience?!

Either TH is well rehearsed, or this is his truth. I find some of it plausible.

I’ll be honest, and it might not be a popular opinion, but I believe him. Not word for word, but overall, I believe his version more so than ETs.

It doesn’t excuse him, it doesn’t give him a free pass and it doesn’t make him innocent. But I do find his version of events more plausible.

Edited to elaborate, before anyone thinks I’m saying TH is not guilty.

 

[ScottishSam]

Hmmm...
Do you think Im prejudiced to TH haha?

Not at all, he deserves everything he gets. I do feel he's been manipulated in this situation however. I think he's trying to be somewhat honest with his answers.
He knows he can't defend the text messages - I've called my children wee shites in text messages when they've been naughty (the time they covered my brand new laptop in sudocrem springs to mind). But his are next level, and do imply he's allowing and will be perpetrating an extreme level of violence. There's letting off steam, and then there's texts calling children names like f****r, c***.

 

[Dotta]

Adjourned till Wednesday?
It might be the longest trial in history.
I wonder what's up with ET?

 

[ScottishSam]

Adjourned till Wednesday?
It might be the longest trial in history.
I wonder what's up with ET?

Maybe she found her conscience?

 

[Carroll520]

Maybe she found her conscience?

I doubt that very much

 

[ScottishSam]

I’ll be honest, and it might not be a popular opinion, but I believe him. Not word for word, but overall, I believe his version more so than ETs.

It doesn’t excuse him, it doesn’t give him a free pass and it doesn’t make him innocent. But I do find his version of events more plausible.

Edited to elaborate, before anyone thinks I’m saying TH is not guilty.

I agree with you.

 

[Tinksx]

Adjourned till Wednesday?
It might be the longest trial in history.
I wonder what's up with ET?

My guess is her mental health taking a deep nose dive at what’s being exposed right now. I’d imagine she’d be quite high risk anyway, due to her previous suicide attempt.

 

[Dotta]

Maybe she found her conscience?

Im sorry but I absolutely dont buy it.
But I will speak no further so not to present myself as a vindictive person.

 

[Carroll520]

Not at all, he deserves everything he gets. I do feel he's been manipulated in this situation however. I think he's trying to be somewhat honest with his answers.
He knows he can't defend the text messages - I've called my children wee shites in text messages when they've been naughty (the time they covered my brand new laptop in sudocrem springs to mind). But his are next level, and do imply he's allowing and will be perpetrating an extreme level of violence. There's letting off steam, and then there's texts calling children names like f****r, c***.

Even if he was manipulated how could he let his son stand in a hall way day in day out for weeks on end. Maybe I am being too harsh, but i dont believe a word of that, especially the texts he sent and his carry on, he didnt have to be so cruel

 

[ScottishSam]

I doubt that very much

Im sorry but I absolutely dont buy it.
But I will speak no further so not to present myself as a vindictive person.

I was being sarcastic. I don't think you're vindictive at all.

 

[ChloLo]

At least TH has shown some level of remorse and taken responsibility, unlike ET who is still blaming Arthur for his own death.

 

[ScottishSam]

Even if he was manipulated how could he let his son stand in a hall way day in day out for weeks on end. Maybe I am being too harsh, but i dont believe a word of that, especially the texts he sent and his carry on, he didnt have to be so cruel

I'm not defending or excusing his behaviour. He could have put a stop to this. But I genuinely believe he had ET in his ear, and constantly sending messages which convinced him his son was this evil, badly behaved little boy. I also think he's not a strong character anyway, and I absolutely believe she exploited that.
There were small incidents way back at the start of the trial, which to me represent her testing the waters, seeing how far she could push things. His family picked up on her behaviour at the start.

 

[Carroll520]

My guess is her mental health taking a deep nose dive at what’s being exposed right now. I’d imagine she’d be quite high risk anyway, due to her previous suicide attempt.

I'm not defending or excusing his behaviour. He could have put a stop to this. But I genuinely believe he had ET in his ear, and constantly sending messages which convinced him his son was this evil, badly behaved little boy. I also think he's not a strong character anyway, and I absolutely believe she exploited that.
There were small incidents way back at the start of the trial, which to me represent her testing the waters, seeing how far she could push things. His family picked up on this right at the start.

Aw yeah I know you are not defending him. It just baffles me how someone could have a 6 year relationship with their son and let another persons opinion overshadow theirs and not only that then proceed to torture that person. I just think he had to have known what was going on was utterly wrong to its core. Even if he had her looking over his shoulder the whole time. Like if you wanted her yo think you were carrying out all thecso called discipline when she could see, did he not ever take the opportunity to show Arthur some love when she wasnt looking. I dont think he did, if he had I might have more understanding of him