UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #11

[Vixey]

@Vixey how are doing with the Google street walk screenshot of the 2 females and 1 male outside the NH on sept 2014... Have you been able to capture it?

Yes a while back now! I had a similar image to the seen in Major Lang’s blog and Curious regarding the guy behind the vehicle with what appears to be a camera. I never caught your angle in above image, are those groups of people on opposite side of the road and the date of street view I can’t recall,is it 2011 ? Currently I am looking back at the SUV outside Claudias and wondering if it was known how this Vehicle was ruled out, or who it belonged to.

 

[keep-it-real]

Yes a while back now! I had a similar image to the seen in Major Lang’s blog and Curious regarding the guy behind the vehicle with what appears to be a camera. I never caught your angle in above image, are those groups of people on opposite side of the road and the date of street view I can’t recall,is it 2011 ? Currently I am looking back at the SUV outside Claudias and wondering if it was known how this Vehicle was ruled out, or who it belonged to. View attachment 272857View attachment 272858

Google street walk is tricky although you can select a year as you travel down the heworth rd it can changeto a different year in the blink of eye( this can happen even if you approach the NH for either direction)
The only glimpse I get of these people is on Google street walk from way back up by Claudia's house. You will have to stop when you first get site of them and just use the zoom to get closer because if you continue onthestreetwalk as normal they will disappear.

My point is here if the image shown on MajorLangs blog no longer exists on Google streetwalk it must have been removed and if it was removed why and by who.. Have we found a chink in the armour of the NYP?

You mention the SUV outside Claudia's house police did say they had ruled it out but didnt give any reasons... In my opinion it and the male boarding the bus played a part in the events of 18th and 19th March.
IMO
Dyor

Claudia Lawrence: police rule out pickup truck in hunt for ...

www.telegraph.co.uk › news › Claudia-Lawrence-polic...
3 Apr 2009 — Police hunting missing chef Claudia Lawrence have ruled out of their investigation the owner of a pickup truck seen parked outside her hous

 

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[Popejohn3]

I can’t believe the disinterest of our newspapers and other investigation people in this case.
You might hear something about it when instigated by her father come the 18 of March 2021 then nothing for a whole year !
I suppose we’ve got ourselves to blame ... I’m ashamed to admit I have not bought a newspaper for weeks !
Yet I expect them to investigate !

 

[Jennifersausage]

I can’t believe the disinterest of our newspapers and other investigation people in this case.
You might hear something about it when instigated by her father come the 18 of March 2021 then nothing for a whole year !
I suppose we’ve got ourselves to blame ... I’m ashamed to admit I have not bought a newspaper for weeks !
Yet I expect them to investigate ![/QUOT

It’s certainly the strangest case I’ve ever come across.

 

[Jennifersausage]

It’s certainly the most baffling case I’ve ever come across.

 

[Popejohn3]

I think it’s a fairly simple case but the police tried too hard ! Weighted investigation... her close friend called it so and I agree 100%.I wish this friend ( if she’s allowed that is )would have the courage to contribute here.
There ARE some good people here .

 

[keep-it-real]

I can’t believe the disinterest of our newspapers and other investigation people in this case.
You might hear something about it when instigated by her father come the 18 of March 2021 then nothing for a whole year !
I suppose we’ve got ourselves to blame ... I’m ashamed to admit I have not bought a newspaper for weeks !
Yet I expect them to investigate !

but I bet you log on to the world wide web everyday PJ and the internet is an incredible source of information for research and for sharing on a single click of a Google search it can take you to every avail detail and its source relating to 'Claudia Lawrence'

 

[Popejohn3]

but I bet you log on to the world wide web everyday PJ and the internet is an incredible source of information for research and for sharing on a single click of a Google search it can take you to every avail detail and its source relating to 'Claudia Lawrence'

Yes I do but news people have been complaining that Google does not pay for news gathering but I digress... where is Claudia?

 

[keep-it-real]

I think it’s a fairly simple case but the police tried too hard ! Weighted investigation... her close friend called it so and I agree 100%.I wish this friend ( if she’s allowed that it )would have the courage to contribute here.
There ARE some good people here .

Remember this case is in reactive mode the police havent closed it, so anyone connected to the case and any future prosecutions would have to extremely careful in what they can say in public.

The family have never applied for 'a declaration of presumed death' They could have done this after 7 years. You can even do this earlier if supporting evidence, for example statements from witnesses, police reports. (remember the police have said they believe she is dead)

If a declaration of presumed death is made and granted then the case can be closed, details of the case can be made public and people could speak openly about it.

Without this action the case can indefinately remain in reactive mode..

It does make you wonder...

Get a declaration of presumed death


IMO
Dyor

 

[Vixey]

@Vixey how are doing with the Google street walk screenshot of the 2 females and 1 male outside the NH on sept 2014... Have you been able to capture it?

Yes a while back now! I had a similar image to the seen in Major Lang’s blog and Curious regarding the guy behind the vehicle with what appears to be a camera. I never caught your angle in above image, are those groups of people on opposite side of the road and the date of street view I can’t recall,is it 2011 ? Currently I am looking back at the SUV outside Claudias and wondering if it was known how this Vehicle was ruled out, or who it belonged to. View attachment 272857View attachment 272858

Well I can’t can I as he’s not here any longer.

I can’t believe the disinterest of our newspapers and other investigation people in this case.
You might hear something about it when instigated by her father come the 18 of March 2021 then nothing for a whole year !
I suppose we’ve got ourselves to blame ... I’m ashamed to admit I have not bought a newspaper for weeks !
Yet I expect them to investigate !

For a moment,I thought you you were referring to white jacket guy in cctv with the newspaper or a person connected to the case that worked for the local york press. Finally Morning head has caught up and yes agree though I do feel the coverage of the case to be still even after 11 years very good. Sad more so, that no information or lead has came to light over this time despite the efforts and want to Crack this case previously from Dai malyn imo.Someone knows something, yet no ones talking :/ x

 

[Vixey]

Remember this case is in reactive mode the police havent closed it, so anyone connected to the case and any future prosecutions would have to extremely careful in what they can say in public.

The family have never applied for 'a declaration of presumed death' They could have done this after 7 years. You can even do this earlier if supporting evidence, for example statements from witnesses, police reports. (remember the police have said they believe she is dead)

If a declaration of presumed death is made and granted then the case can be closed, details of the case can be made public and people could speak openly about it.

Without this action the case can indefinately remain in reactive mode..

It does make you wonder...

Get a declaration of presumed death


IMO
Dyor

Perhaps a coroners Inquest will come in time, It will be Interesting as independent For them to consider the Probable Cause of death and How Claudia died. This has probably not been pushed due to the fact family or friends may feel it is still possible or hope Claudia is still alive. As they said They would feel a cut off x

 

[Vixey]

what Images and who’s identity ?Claudia film withdrawn over identity 'mistakes'

 

[Vixey]

@keep-it-real
Re the repair of CL's car. I've searched hard for an old post by @Major Lang's about which garage he thought had potential and with luck today his updated blog has been posted by @Yozzer! I've attached the 2008 google maps detail as the garage is in the right area (end of Redeness St, Layerthorpe) but there's still no evidence that it's the right one. If I had to judge I'd say it wasn't a smart enough place but it's close to addresses previously associated with people she was close to.

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It was only suzy cooper who suggested Layerthorpe, According to NYP it was A local garage. Perhaps a Email to RaydotGalloway would be useful with his previous work history

 

[Vixey]

what Images and who’s identity ?Claudia film withdrawn over identity 'mistakes'

Has Identity in CCTV always been the key issue in this Investigation?

 

[keep-it-real]

Perhaps a coroners Inquest will come in time, It will be Interesting as independent For them to consider the Probable Cause of death and How Claudia died. This has probably not been pushed due to the fact family or friends may feel it is still possible or hope Claudia is still alive. As they said They would feel a cut off x

Doesnt a coroners inquest require a body tho @Vixey?

A declaration of pesumed death doesnt..

Its all so open ended .. with no one getting any relevant details to important questions and thats the problem in keeping this case open.

If the family thought she was alive then surely they knew something about what happened around/after the disappearance that led them to believe that.

I know if the policeman who was heading the investigation came to me and said we believe your daughter is dead and then go on national tv an say they are treating the case as murder, I would have thrown every question in the book at him and want to know every detail of such a declaration.

Joan and Peter did not appear to have had a united front on some aspects of this case but on the subject of her still being alive they did.

So whatever police told them at the time in my opinion wasnt enough to convince them she was dead.

IMO
Dyor

 

[Vixey]

Doesnt a coroners inquest require a body tho @Vixey?

A declaration a pesumed death doesnt..

Its all so open ended .. with no one getting and relevant details to important questions and thats the problem in keeping this case open.

If the family thought she was alive then surely they knew something about what happened around/after the disappearance that led them to believe that.

I know if the policeman who was heading the investigation came to me and said we believe your daughter is dead and then go on national tv an say they are treating the case as murder, I would have thrown every question in the book and want to know every detail of such a declaration.

Joan and Peter did not appear to have had a united front on some aspects of this case but on the subject of her still being alive they did.

So whatever police told them at the time in my opinion wasnt enough to convince them she was dead.

IMO
Dyor

No a body is not required, they look at the evidence NYP have in relation to Claudia missing and presumed death. they will look to see if they can determine possible and most likely cause of death and when etc, based on the evidence NYP provide to the coroner. This may help to establishing any errors or mistakes made and wether they believe Claudia is deceased. It would be a good thing to have done imo x

 

[keep-it-real]

No a body is not required, they look at the evidence NYP have in relation to Claudia missing and presumed death. they will look to see if they can determine possible and most likely cause of death and when etc, based on the evidence NYP provide to the coroner. This may help to establishing any errors or mistakes made and wether they believe Claudia is deceased. It would be a good thing to have done imo x

Any thoughts on why this hasnt been done to date?

 

[Popejohn3]

Doesnt a coroners inquest require a body tho @Vixey?

A declaration of pesumed death doesnt..

Its all so open ended .. with no one getting any relevant details to important questions and thats the problem in keeping this case open.

If the family thought she was alive then surely they knew something about what happened around/after the disappearance that led them to believe that.

I know if the policeman who was heading the investigation came to me and said we believe your daughter is dead and then go on national tv an say they are treating the case as murder, I would have thrown every question in the book at him and want to know every detail of such a declaration.

Joan and Peter did not appear to have had a united front on some aspects of this case but on the subject of her still being alive they did.

So whatever police told them at the time in my opinion wasnt enough to convince them she was dead.

IMO
Dyor

No proof of death that’s for sure but no proof or sign of life .This is also true,
If Claudia is alive she would have contacted at the very least just one member of her family surely bless her .

 

[Vixey]

A joke ? I thought claudia wanted to get in shape, and often use bike with her friend jen to see the horses. Her bike was in the narrow kitchen said George Forman x Claudia Lawrence: Donal MacIntyre questions police investigation