UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #12

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Did the police ever show videos ( or see videos ) of Claudia going into work apart from cameras at the uni that is ?
Plus the police never showed us ( if they existed ) the clips of jo’s car picking her up ?
 
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I wonder, how PR felt, if he was CL's Ex and the new lover of JK, when "his" girls went on holiday together .... He would have known well, in which way the girls' holidays would have been spent, I think. - Doesn't have to be a reason for murder of course. But usually men don't like it, when a girlfriend exerts negative influence on their partner (IF he had any concerns).
Especially if so popular out there, always offered a position and good long term friends. I am sure there was conflict between Sammons and Campbells story, with one suggesting the other greatly exaggerated the facts x
 
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I wonder, how PR felt, if he was CL's Ex and the new lover of JK, when "his" girls went on holiday together .... He would have known well, in which way the girls' holidays would have been spent, I think. - Doesn't have to be a reason for murder of course. But usually men don't like it, when a girlfriend exerts negative influence on their partner (IF he had any concerns).
Especially if so popular out there, always offered a position and good long term friends. I am sure there was conflict between Sammons and Campbells story, with one suggesting the other greatly exaggerated the facts x
Did the police ever show videos ( or see videos ) of Claudia going into work apart from cameras at the uni that is ?
Plus the police never showed us ( if they existed ) the clips of jo’s car picking her up ?
To show this was Claudias usual route, and not staying with a friend closer to the uni or near Acomb whilst car off road? Perhaps only went home to pick up items needed or drop things back!
 
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Did the police ever show videos ( or see videos ) of Claudia going into work apart from cameras at the uni that is ?
Plus the police never showed us ( if they existed ) the clips of jo’s car picking her up ?
Always wondered regarding jo picking up as her vehicle on melrosegate would have been pick up on the first camera facing opposite to the way public are shown Claudia at that post box footage. Then we have cctv at quartz travel and the co op,plus limes front cameras x
 
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Did the police ever show videos ( or see videos ) of Claudia going into work apart from cameras at the uni that is ?
Especially if so popular out there, always offered a position and good long term friends. I am sure there was conflict between Sammons and Campbells story, with one suggesting the other greatly exaggerated the facts x

To show this was Claudias usual route, and not staying with a friend closer to the uni or near Acomb whilst car off road? Perhaps only went home to pick up items needed or drop things back!
it was always implied by family and friends that Claudia was walking to work and from her house !
 
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Did the police ever show videos ( or see videos ) of Claudia going into work apart from cameras at the uni that is ?

it was always implied by family and friends that Claudia was walking to work and from her house !
Implied! To know different, If that so be x
 
  • #527
Do you know if it was at that travel agents? x

As far as I am aware the details of who the holiday was booked with have never been revealed.
But interestingly Quartz Travel Heworth Road was the subject of repeated vandalism attacks according to the owner Paul Smith in July 2009.
The white van which was seen on the bus cam Weds 18th was parked outside Quartz Travel.
Paul Smith, of Quartz Travel, Heworth, York hopes a customer’s £1,000 reward will catch 'hate' vandals
 
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As far as I am aware the details of who the holiday was booked with have never been revealed.
But interestingly Quartz Travel Heworth Road was the subject of repeated vandalism attacks according to the owner Paul Smith in July 2009.
The white van which was seen on the bus cam Weds 18th was parked outside Quartz Travel.
Paul Smith, of Quartz Travel, Heworth, York hopes a customer’s £1,000 reward will catch 'hate' vandals
Yes was an ongoing problem, a young male died that worked there also. Paul helped out on early searches as knew Claudia and peter after attending catering college with Claudia, though a friend of Claudias at the college did not recognise him when I asked her.Means nothing, but I did wonder If Claudia contacted Paul after her mother called requesting a taxi number for friends / Family on wed night x
 
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Yes was an ongoing problem, a young male died that worked there also. Paul helped out on early searches as knew Claudia and peter after attending catering college with Claudia, though a friend of Claudias at the college did not recognise him when I asked her.Means nothing, but I did wonder If Claudia contacted Paul after her mother called requesting a taxi number for friends / Family on wed night x

Can you tell us more about the young male who worked there that died @Vixey.
 
  • #530
Fair enough you said ‘break in at the back ‘ the alarm would still go off ?
It would unless you could could lift out a window - maybe if you were in the glazing business - you’d have this expertise or perhaps a locksmith do you know any?
 
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Re MEKON ‘s post : it is obvious to me the Allyman was trying to make some contact with her .And it looks to me she did not want to make contact but he was not going to take no for an answer. So he met her on the way to work...
he was dead or in someone’s control at 8.23pm
 
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Perhaps a partner was not happy Jen and Claudia had just booked this holiday eg, Sammons and Campbell both out there! Or perhaps suzy was vexed she was not invited or possibly the fact Suzy was off work that week she could not get the time off. Was It Only just booked as her passport in her bag on bed IMO
Or perhaps you and just left your wife thinking you were moving on with the love of your life, when she then reveals she’s off on holiday with your bit on the side to be with two love rivals
 
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Can you tell us more about the young male who worked there that died @Vixey.
Will try re find the article! he was 18 and quite lad, seen naked running in the direction towards river I believe x
 
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he was dead or in someone’s control at 8.23pm
8.23 pm you must know something no one ( except police perhaps ) knows !
It also means you know for sure she was not arguing with anyone near the uni next morning .
 
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Will try re find the article! he was 18 and quite lad, seen naked running in the direction towards river I believe x

I would appresciate that thanks @Vixey.. can you remember offhand what date he died and if he lived in the Heworth road/ Limes/ TangHall area?
 
  • #536
It would unless you could could lift out a window - maybe if you were in the glazing business - you’d have this expertise or perhaps a locksmith do you know any?
It wouldn't be as simple as going through a window as opposed to a door. There would be sensors in the house so the alarm would still have to be deactivated either by fob or code or some other improper means. I can set my alarm when I'm in the house but choose what areas to be alarmed.
 
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It wouldn't be as simple as going through a window as opposed to a door. There would be sensors in the house so the alarm would still have to be deactivated either by fob or code or some other improper means. I can set my alarm when I'm in the house but choose what areas to be alarmed.
Depends on the system. I would think if you were a locksmith you would recognise systems and their features. You could then look at ways to enter unnoticed.
 
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I was watching a program on telly the other night, some of you may of seen it to. It featured a woman slain on her doorstep by two women (a love rival and an accomplice) they fid a dummy run before dropping some flowers at her door. I’ve been thinking about alleyway man - was he perhaps doing a dummy run?
 
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I would appresciate that thanks @Vixey.. can you remember offhand what date he died and if he lived in the Heworth road/ Limes/ TangHall area?
https://www.travelweekly.co.uk/articles/39902/tributes-paid-to-quartz-travel-agent-jordan-sullivanSorry it wasn’t until 2012 x 62C814A7-BDAC-4C03-9BA7-47648BBEAA1A.jpegEA1E2B07-1B14-4EBE-B27D-39A38871458C.png
 
  • #540
Putting The Pressure On. Don’t Be Fooled.

NYP through Crimewatch released some footage taken from a bus at 9.01pm on the 18th March 2009 trying to identify a white vauxhall van estate, rather than stopping at the van or dhoeing a still the bus carried on down Heworth Road passing the Nags, and passing Claudias - showing two vehicles parked outside Claudias house - the police were showing the perps they had been seen.

The next example of the police showing the perps that they knew who had carried out the crime is the strategically placed video screens showing footage of Claudia disappearance.

Another example was the Claudias phone movements on the evening of the 18th, the morning of the 19th until 12.10pm on the 19th when the perp decided to switch the phone off.
They say it was in an 8mile triangulation of York - so they know it was likely to be a local perp. Make no mistake they know within a few feet it’s position all of the time it was turned on - how do we know this? Because the police made it clear the phone was being used in the Acomb area leading up to her disappearance in the weeks before.

as a final note - not only do they know where Claudias phone was - they also know where perps phones were in the same time frame.

you might think you are fooling people but you are not - you are only fooling yourself.
 
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