UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #13

[keep-it-real]

The childminder - where does that info come from?

' Claudia Lawrence Missing or Murdered' programme screened in 2019 on Channel 5 ..approx 27 minutes .in

 

[MEKON]

I’ve also been down the alleyway behind CL house, from memory you could (just about) get a hatchback type car down it but not all the way as it curves and it would be very tight.

This may sound obvious. But if it wasn't the norm for vehicles to back up into that alley. Then did the Police notice car tyre track marks in the alley. Is there a way of telling what type of tyres they were by the tracks. There's a picture of the alley in the local York paper; and I'm sure you can see tyre tracks. It does not seem the area where vehicles would drive normally:

CLAUDIA LAWRENCE: Police searching alley behind her house today - CCTV to be reviewed - chef has been missing for almost 6 years

 

[keep-it-real]

Maybe it's because the Police know they aren't involved with the criminal activity. But they could of unknowingly seen something of much importance and the Police are desperate to speak to them

I believe the man on the bus was identified from the appeal and is no longer of interest.
As far as Im aware the others mentioned have not yet been identified

 

[Blonderabbit]

' Claudia Lawrence Missing or Murdered' programme screened in 2019 on Channel 5 ..approx. 27 minutes .in

wonder where they got that detail from. do you not think its odd that it isn't listed on the microsite?

 

[Blonderabbit]

I believe the man on the bus was identified from the appeal and is no longer of interest.
As far as Im aware the others mentioned have not yet been identified

yes he was identified

 

[Yozzer]

I'm sure there has been discussions that people's wheelie bins were checked

If there was somewhere around the back alley where a vehicle could be used out of CCTV range. Then a body could be wrapped up or put in a bag before being placed in a wheelie bin; so no DNA was transposed onto the bin
Then the bin could be wheeled to the vehicle and the body placed in the vehicle. Or the bin and body could even be placed in the vehicle.

Apologies for the bluntness and morbidness

Surely something must of happened in that alley for the Police to of searched it in the way they did 1 year later after Claudia disappeared

Did "an Eagle eyed local" put "2 and 2 together" at a later date and remember something strange happening with their bin

Yes the wheelie bin theory was discussed on here a year or two ago. It is mawkish but has to be considered as an efficient means of removal.

 

[ArcadeFire]

When I went down the alley last year 2020 you could only go about 3/4 of the way down as it was all overgrown so you couldn’t walk through to the Naha head car park but I suspect in Claudia’s say this was possible. It was overgrown but no litter. It’s just your usual back garden alleyway really.

 

[keep-it-real]

wonder where they got that detail from. do you not think its odd that it isn't listed on the microsite?

Investigative Journalism?

I spoke to Cold Case in 2020 re website updates .. they advised me its not managed by them.

So perhaps its something you should bear in mind in regard to updates and new info.

 

[keep-it-real]

When I went down the alley last year 2020 you could only go about 3/4 of the way down as it was all overgrown so you couldn’t walk through to the Naha head car park but I suspect in Claudia’s say this was possible. It was overgrown but no litter. It’s just your usual back garden alleyway really.

Yes I understand the walkway to the NG had since been blocked/fenced off .

 

[Tri-Lambda delta]

Aug 2008 cigarette at her door. Other cigs and an energy drink against her kerb. Could have easily blown there... Would this put her as knowing the smoker??? I don't know.

Google Maps

And an update on the actual amount of LIGHT on the roof 'close-right' in this shot. I show the one on the left to be 8 mins from Astronomical Twilight and the other 13 mins from Astronomical Twilight > is 5 minutes able to produce such light differences OR is the one on the left at a MUCH LATER TIME than stated? Rhetorical.

 

[keep-it-real]

Can I ask anyone else who may have visited the alleyway nearer the time of the case the same questions I put to Blonderabbit.
AlsoI would like to know if there looked to be any sign of vandalism or graffiti present on the walls/gates.. Were any of the back entrance gates marked in a particular way either by colour, large numbered signs or other.

 

[keep-it-real]

wonder where they got that detail from. do you not think its odd that it isn't listed on the microsite?

I also found it reported in this article in the Guardian newspaper ... you may find it reported elsewhere also
Given a lift home on the afternoon of Wednesday 18 March, Claudia waved and shouted "hiya" to Linda Chapman, a childminder who knew her from the Nag's Head
Patrick Barkham: Missing Claudia Lawrence - Ten days of helplessness

 

[Blonderabbit]

 

[Blonderabbit]

I also found it reported in this article in the Guardian newspaper ... you may find it reported elsewhere also
Given a lift home on the afternoon of Wednesday 18 March, Claudia waved and shouted "hiya" to Linda Chapman, a childminder who knew her from the Nag's Head
Patrick Barkham: Missing Claudia Lawrence - Ten days of helplessness

the problem is one false source leads to many false sources. I have a feeling it is a mistake. I wonder if Linda Chapman would verify it

 

[keep-it-real]

the problem is one false source leads to many false sources. I have a feeling it is a mistake. I wonder if Linda Chapman would verify it

I think it would have been something she would have acted upon immmediately if it wasnt true.
IMO

 

[Blonderabbit]

I think it would have been something she would have acted upon immmediately if it wasnt true.
IMO

maybe she has

Ask yourself - why doesn't it say on the microsite Claudia said hiya to Linda Chapman at 3.10pm on march 18th 2009 - it was the last time anyone saw her alive. its a big moment?

 

[MEKON]

Can I ask anyone else who may have visited the alleyway nearer the time of the case the same questions I put to Blonderabbit.
AlsoI would like to know if there looked to be any sign of vandalism or graffiti present.. Were any of the back entrance gates in a particular way either by colour, large numbered signs or other.

If it's confusing match with a ''whose is who game'' with identifying whose back gate in the dark is No 10's? and where the back entrance is for No 12?

Surely if a load of 'no good' was occurring around the back; then it was someone who knew this specific area very well. Especially if certain back gates were not particularly standing out from the rest

 

[Blonderabbit]

If it's confusing match with a ''whose is who game'' with identifying whose back gate in the dark is No 10's? and where the back entrance is for No 12?

Surely if a load of 'no good' was occurring around the back; then it was someone who knew this specific area very well. Especially if certain back gates were not particularly standing out from the rest

think about it - in 2009 there was no wall at the back of 15 heworth place backing onto the alley and 46 heworth opposite side of the tenfoot - if you wanted to access covertly - why not just walk through the house, garden tenfoot and the back of her house? neednt walk round

 

[keep-it-real]

maybe she has

Ask yourself - why doesn't it say on the microsite Claudia said hiya to Linda Chapman at 3.10pm on march 18th 2009 - it was the last time anyone saw her alive. its a big moment?

That depends how you see it yes 'seen alive' but she spoke with her parents later so the police know was still alive after the sighting.
Im sure police spoke with the childminder and I hope took a statement.

Like it was mentioned before perhaps use the website as a foundation.
You can always run it by Cold Case if you want confirmation from NYP @Blonderabbit

 

[Blonderabbit]

Aug 2008 cigarette at her door. Other cigs and an energy drink against her kerb. Could have easily blown there... Would this put her as knowing the smoker??? I don't know.

Google Maps

And an update on the actual amount of LIGHT on the roof 'close-right' in this shot. I show the one on the left to be 8 mins from Astronomical Twilight and the other 13 mins from Astronomical Twilight > is 5 minutes able to produce such light differences OR is the one on the left at a MUCH LATER TIME than stated? Rhetorical.

good detail, I can see what you are presenting, however even if you were to take it that you are right (which I dont think you are as the police generally verify times as cctv clocks go off with power cuts etc, so lets say you are right to evaluate it. if he's carrying her body off - what is he doing back in the morning? If I had just killed someone id be getting a boat to Timbuktu - not going anywhere near the scene