UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #13

[Blonderabbit]

That depends how you see it yes 'seen alive' but she spoke with her parents later so the police know was still alive after the sighting.
Im sure police spoke with the childminder and I hope took a statement.

Like it was mentioned before perhaps use the website as a foundation.
You can always run it by Cold Case if you want confirmation from NYP @Blonderabbit

well I do not need to contact cold case because I know that what is not on the microsite probably is not true. Linda chapman - i do not know 100% that it isn't true. However I have discounted it. I know that NYP know that Claudia got home after work on the 18th 100%. I have no idea what she did between then and talking to her dad.

 

[MEKON]

think about it - in 2009 there was no wall at the back of 15 heworth place backing onto the alley and 46 heworth opposite side of the tenfoot - if you wanted to access covertly - why not just walk through the house, garden tenfoot and the back of her house? neednt walk round

What I was trying to say was if someone needed access to Claudia's back door via her back gate; then wouldn't they need real local knowledge to identify which was Claudias back gate

I'm not specifically relating to the quietness of conducting the task

I am specifically referring to the ability to get the right back gate and the right back door in the dark. Put simply; it looks hard to match the front doors of the houses to the back doors. That is unless; you are a familiar visitor to Claudias and that specific vicinity

 

[Blonderabbit]

What I was trying to say was if someone needed access to Claudia's back door via her back gate; then wouldn't they need real local knowledge to identify which was Claudias back gate

I'm not specifically relating to the quietness of conducting the task

I am specifically referring to the ability to get the right back gate and the right back door in the dark. Put simply; it looks hard to match the front doors of the houses to the back doors. That is unless; you are a familiar visitor to Claudias and that specific vicinity

you are right

 

[Blonderabbit]

a couple of pics to show the lack of access to the nags and the front view of alleyway man and where the ten foot is behind Claudia's house

 

[Deleted member 102539]

To all Forum members

The last sighting of her was at 3.10pm by the childminder heading towards home
Who thinks CL left her home again between that time and the time she made the calls/texts to people in the evening to another location.

I thought so all the time.
For a quarter of an hour CL left again and it was discussed here on WS, if she went to the Travel agency or to the NH or to drop a mail or where ever.

 

[Popejohn3]

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well I do not need to contact cold case because I know that what is not on the microsite probably is not true. Linda chapman - i do not know 100% that it isn't true. However I have discounted it. I know that NYP know that Claudia got home after work on the 18th 100%. I have no idea what she did between then and talking to her dad.

perhaps that is why it’s called micro site

 

[susie sixpence]

The microsite has changed recently though I believe. Does anyone know what has changed?

 

[MEKON]

I thought so all the time.
For a quarter of an hour CL left again and it was discussed here on WS, if she went to the Travel agency or to the NH or to drop a mail or where ever.

I'm sure someone mentioned that a call could of been made from a public phone box

But maybe Claudia went to see someone to make arrangements for later

Has anyone thought that it might be a possibility that Claudia's Washing Machine had broken down . Thus; maybe someone local had sorted her Chef clothing for her.

 

[keep-it-real]

I thought so all the time.
For a quarter of an hour CL left again and it was discussed here on WS, if she went to the Travel agency or to the NH or to drop a mail or where ever.

I think you misunderstood my post FG 3.10pm is approx the time we are told she returned from that errand.
After returning home from that errand and making the calls and texts in the evening had she left the house to be at another location?

 

[Blonderabbit]

The microsite has changed recently though I believe. Does anyone know what has changed?

Yes it has changed, the timeline and the map. If you notice it doesn’t say four men arrested with murder, it says THREE. Says three realeased. Is it the nags three?

 

[Popejohn3]

Aug 2008 cigarette at her door. Other cigs and an energy drink against her kerb. Could have easily blown there... Would this put her as knowing the smoker??? I don't know.

Google Maps

And an update on the actual amount of LIGHT on the roof 'close-right' in this shot. I show the one on the left to be 8 mins from Astronomical Twilight and the other 13 mins from Astronomical Twilight > is 5 minutes able to produce such light differences OR is the one on the left at a MUCH LATER TIME than stated? Rhetorical.

Discussing the two shadows in the left picture frame: the shadow on the right is longer because he stood further away from the lamppost....you can align his head with bottom right hand corner of that whitish frame in the wall to his left .
Now check and you will see a smaller shadow being produced by the man returning but notice he is stood way past the bottom left corner of the frame on the wall to his right this time and therefore he stood much closer to the lamppost therefore creating a smaller shadow .
He goes in by himself and comes out by himself.imo

 

[Blonderabbit]

Discussing the two shadows in the left picture frame: the shadow on the right is longer because he stood further away from the lamppost....you can align his head with bottom right hand corner of that whitish frame in the wall to his left .
Now check and you will see a smaller shadow being produced by the man returning but notice he is stood way past the bottom left corner of the frame on the wall to his right this time and therefore he stood much closer to the lamppost therefore creating a smaller shadow .
He goes in by himself and comes out by himself.

You only see him by himself on that footage - that’s not to say there maybe other persons on additional footage that isn’t public

 

[Popejohn3]

You only see him by himself on that footage - that’s not to say there maybe other persons on additional footage that isn’t public

True but we cannot discuss footage we have not seen.
Maybe the whole thing was captured by the hidden camera in her wall mounted kitchen clock who knows

 

[Popejohn3]

I'm sure someone mentioned that a call could of been made from a public phone box

But maybe Claudia went to see someone to make arrangements for later

Has anyone thought that it might be a possibility that Claudia's Washing Machine had broken down . Thus; maybe someone local had sorted her Chef clothing for her.

They would have come forward ?

 

[keep-it-real]

@oudzuid .. Im just listening to the footage of the video I mentioned before and realise .. you need to be using the right earpiece only NOT the left.
Sorry for any confusion.

 

[Popejohn3]

I think you misunderstood my post FG 3.10pm is approx the time we are told she returned from that errand.
After returning home from that errand and making the calls and texts in the evening had she left the house to be at another location?

No personally believe she stayed home as her mother suggested .Then left for work in the morning and out through front door.

 

[keep-it-real]

No personally believe she stayed home as her mother suggested .Then left for work in the morning and out through front door.

After she left through the front door what then PJ?

 

[Popejohn3]

After she left through the front door what then PJ?

She got into a friend's car before the camera at the PO .
She might even have ducked because she spotted the lurker looking for her walking to work.
This ‘act’ could have started the final argument of her life .
The driver could have stopped the car demanding to know who the pedestrian was and what was going on ?!

 

[Vixey]

a couple of pics to show the lack of access to the nags and the front view of alleyway manView attachment 282231 View attachment 282232 and where the ten foot is behind Claudia's house

The gates at the top of each garden is how access is through I believe to take out bins x

 

[Yozzer]

I think it would have been something she would have acted upon immmediately if it wasnt true.
IMO

Re Linda Chapman: There is a television interview on Getty videos with LC standing at the point where she saw CL, describing it to an ITN news journalist which anyone can access for themselves.