UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #13

[susie sixpence]

Was there a small dark vehicle shown on morning and evening cctv ?

There was the dark coloured car on the right but the alley man has not been connected with it at any point during the investigation.

 

[Popejohn3]

Dbm

 

[Popejohn3]

DBM

Do you mind and please confirm if you agree
That DBM stands and always will , for Deleted By Me
Lol because others thought it’s for Don’t Bother Me

So Jen and Claudia were out in Cyprus around Christmas time x

no I don’t think so !

 

[oudzuid]

Do you mind and please confirm if you agree
That DBM stands and always will , for Deleted By Me
Lol because others thought it’s for Don’t Bother Me

no I don’t think so !

@Popejohn3 There is no question in my mind what DBM means and this has been covered many times before as Deleted By Me.

I was about to post the same message twice which always confuses so that's why DBM.


I would not be online if I was worried about people bothering me

 

[Yozzer]

[QUOTE="susie sixpence - I doubt that a vehicle was backed into the alley because the cctv would be of a vehicle they are looking for not a person. Surely the camera would have picked up the entry and exit of such a vehicle on the Limes cctv[/QUOTE]

Quite possibly but what do police do if the vehicle's owner is a HP resident and says he was loading some paving/cement/sand whatever into the van. If he sticks to his story it's his word against theirs. That's what the police are up against.

 

[Popejohn3]

DBM

Do you mind and please confirm if you agree
That DBM stands and always will , for Deleted By Me
Lol because others thought it’s for Don’t Bother Me

So Jen and Claudia were out in Cyprus around Christmas time x

no I don’t think so !

[QUOTE="susie sixpence - I doubt that a vehicle was backed into the alley because the cctv would be of a vehicle they are looking for not a person. Surely the camera would have picked up the entry and exit of such a vehicle on the Limes cctv[/QUOTE]

Quite possibly but what do police do if the vehicle's owner is a HP resident and says he was loading some paving/cement/sand whatever into the van. If he sticks to his story it's his word against theirs. That's what the police are up against.

sure and only within that short window of time

 

[Popejohn3]

I wonder who ended up buying Claudia’s Car ?

 

[MEKON]

[QUOTE="susie sixpence - I doubt that a vehicle was backed into the alley because the cctv would be of a vehicle they are looking for not a person. Surely the camera would have picked up the entry and exit of such a vehicle on the Limes cctv[/QUOTE]

Quite possibly but what do police do if the vehicle's owner is a HP resident and says he was loading some paving/cement/sand whatever into the van. If he sticks to his story it's his word against theirs. That's what the police are up against.

If a vehicle has been used in the vicinity of the back , then surely it has been loaded up out of view from any camera. And then the vehicle has vacated the area by 'blending in'; via using an excuse such as the one above

 

[ArcadeFire]

I doubt anyone brought CL car surely it was retained for evidence. Flicking back through my York photos earlier I looked at the alleyway photograph I took and actually it was wider then I remembered you could reverse a car down. Funny how the mind alters things. But anyway it’s irrelevant she wasn’t abducted that way as there would be CCTV footage. Has anyone had any success gaining access to Facebook groups concerning CL. When I request to join I’m never approved...?!

 

[Blonderabbit]

I doubt anyone brought CL car surely it was retained for evidence. Flicking back through my York photos earlier I looked at the alleyway photograph I took and actually it was wider then I remembered you could reverse a car down. Funny how the mind alters things. But anyway it’s irrelevant she wasn’t abducted that way as there would be CCTV footage. Has anyone had any success gaining access to Facebook groups concerning CL. When I request to join I’m never approved...?!

What makes you think she wasn’t taken that way?

 

[Tri-Lambda delta]

good detail, I can see what you are presenting, however even if you were to take it that you are right (which I dont think you are as the police generally verify times as cctv clocks go off with power cuts etc, so lets say you are right to evaluate it. if he's carrying her body off - what is he doing back in the morning? If I had just killed someone id be getting a boat to Timbuktu - not going anywhere near the scene

Unless you wished to make it look like she went to work (and was alive the next day) as everyone knew you were at the corner and there at her front door that night? IF you were in bed at 5:30am with a ...witness (i.e. solid alibi) ...then you're off scott-free. You fooled everyone. No matter how guilty you are... you wont be looked at twice. And this is where a review of the timeline would reintroduce those who have already been dismissed by having an alibi. (Someone should on March 18th 2021 have a look at the Limes Court CCTV images... at 7:15pm. Is the lighting correct? Or is the lighting showing 8:15pm or even 9:15pm?) Why not look at it? What is stopping you looking at it?)

 

[Popejohn3]

I doubt anyone brought CL car surely it was retained for evidence. Flicking back through my York photos earlier I looked at the alleyway photograph I took and actually it was wider then I remembered you could reverse a car down. Funny how the mind alters things. But anyway it’s irrelevant she wasn’t abducted that way as there would be CCTV footage. Has anyone had any success gaining access to Facebook groups concerning CL. When I request to join I’m never approved...?!

I will be the one who finds the truth: Mother of Claudia Lawrence still has hope eight years on

check and see what her mother says about her car

 

[MEKON]

Unless you wished to make it look like she went to work (and was alive the next day) as everyone knew you were at the corner and there at her front door that night? IF you were in bed at 5:30am with a ...witness (i.e. solid alibi) ...then you're off scott-free. You fooled everyone. No matter how guilty you are... you wont be looked at twice. And this is where a review of the timeline would reintroduce those who have already been dismissed by having an alibi. (Someone should on March 18th 2021 have a look at the Limes Court CCTV images... at 7:15pm. Is the lighting correct? Or is the lighting showing 8:15pm or even 9:15pm?) Why not look at it? What is stopping you looking at it?)

That night time footage with 'White coat person and Dark Alley person' no matter which way you look at it certainly looks 'dodgy'. Even if you feel it's people working together or 'Dark Alley person' genuinely does not want to be seen by anyone. It is still 'very iffy'.

 

[MEKON]

I will be the one who finds the truth: Mother of Claudia Lawrence still has hope eight years on

check and see what her mother says about her car

That is very strange that the car has been sold in many manners

 

[Popejohn3]

That is very strange that the car has been sold in many manners

The strange thing I have read that article many times before and that bit about the car escaped me .
Is it possible for someone to Add that information on the Sly ?

 

[Popejohn3]

What makes you think she wasn’t taken that way?

But anyway it’s irrelevant she wasn’t abducted that way as there would be CCTV footage.
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the above is the reason ArcadeFire thinks she was not taken that way !
So may I ask why do you ask the question?
Plus / since you have said in recent past that you yourself believed Claudia used the front door!
May I know what is going on here ?

 

[Blonderabbit]

Unless you wished to make it look like she went to work (and was alive the next day) as everyone knew you were at the corner and there at her front door that night? IF you were in bed at 5:30am with a ...witness (i.e. solid alibi) ...then you're off scott-free. You fooled everyone. No matter how guilty you are... you wont be looked at twice. And this is where a review of the timeline would reintroduce those who have already been dismissed by having an alibi. (Someone should on March 18th 2021 have a look at the Limes Court CCTV images... at 7:15pm. Is the lighting correct? Or is the lighting showing 8:15pm or even 9:15pm?) Why not look at it? What is stopping you looking at it?)

It has been checked and checked by the review team. However - what was he doing in the morning?

 

[Blonderabbit]

But anyway it’s irrelevant she wasn’t abducted that way as there would be CCTV footage.
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the above is the reason ArcadeFire thinks she was not taken that way !
So may I ask why do you ask the question?
Plus / since you have said in recent past that you yourself believed Claudia used the front door!
May I know what is going on here ?

Exactly

 

[Vixey]

I will be the one who finds the truth: Mother of Claudia Lawrence still has hope eight years on

check and see what her mother says about her car

Ooh! Thank you pope, The car we are shown body work was in bad condition, Surprised to read it was sold if that indeed wasn’t a loan car x

 

[Yozzer]

Unless you wished to make it look like she went to work (and was alive the next day) as everyone knew you were at the corner and there at her front door that night? IF you were in bed at 5:30am with a ...witness (i.e. solid alibi) ...then you're off scott-free. You fooled everyone. No matter how guilty you are... you wont be looked at twice. And this is where a review of the timeline would reintroduce those who have already been dismissed by having an alibi. (Someone should on March 18th 2021 have a look at the Limes Court CCTV images... at 7:15pm. Is the lighting correct? Or is the lighting showing 8:15pm or even 9:15pm?) Why not look at it? What is stopping you looking at it?)

The police will have verified correct times from other witnesses on that 19.15 cctv film. E.g. the person visiting the HR property opposite Limes Court who stood near the front door ("can you confirm what time it was when you called to visit your friend in HR that night?")....the group of people seen walking from right to left just before the suspect appears ("so you had been for a drink in the NH...at what time did you leave the pub?") and so on. Also they would establish when the street lights were scheduled to switch on as a way of verifying times.