UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #13

[Officer Dibble]

so,

• arranged to meet SC Thursday evening at the Nags
• JK was working at the Nags that night
• JK became worried about 10pm because Claudia didnt turn up. BUT no mention of any calls to Claudia's phone that evening
• SC called Claudia's phone friday morning (9am) and it went straight to voicemail
• SC called the Nags landlord to go to Claudias house to knock on the door, but no answer (but there wouldn't be if she went to work?)
• SC called PL to alert him that she has been unable to contact Claudia
• PL goes to the house, lets himself in, no sign of Claudia, no sign of distrurbance
• PL calls police and they arrive quickly and take disappearance seriously.

questions - did PL call Claudia's workplace before calling the Landlord of the Nags - otherwise none of this timeline makes sense
If JK was worried Thurday evening, why no call to CL?
Why did SC not call te uni first to see if CL was at work?

The way its written here makes me think of answers along the lines of JK and CL had fallen out so JK did not contact CL but was just conconcered. Instead she asked SC to contact next morning. JMO MOO

 

[Officer Dibble]

Moving tribute to Peter Lawrance on tonight’s program at the end - sent that weird feeling right through me - what a shame he couldn’t of had closure.

second time for me watching “missing and murdered” it stated her phone was switched off at 12.10pm north west of York - wonder who lives near there?

Why would you ask who lives near there? It doesn't need to involve a home, surely? Is there someone you had in mind?

 

[Officer Dibble]

This documentary was filmed 10 years later. People refine their versions over time (to present a more favourable image of themselves perhaps). I'm pretty sure in older interviews, it was SC who was most concerned as she had been 'abandoned'. I have read other versions of this story where JK did not use the word 'worried' and adopted a more relaxed stance to CL's absence from the NH that night. So I understand your drift.
Neither woman was concerned enough to check on CL but perhaps it was reasonable to assume that she had fallen asleep, in which case, why wake her up? I think SC's text was how most adult women would deal with it - since CL was not a child.

That makes more sense to me in context. Thanks.

 

[Officer Dibble]

This documentary was filmed 10 years later. People refine their versions over time (to present a more favourable image of themselves perhaps). I'm pretty sure in older interviews, it was SC who was most concerned as she had been 'abandoned'. I have read other versions of this story where JK did not use the word 'worried' and adopted a more relaxed stance to CL's absence from the NH that night. So I understand your drift.
Neither woman was concerned enough to check on CL but perhaps it was reasonable to assume that she had fallen asleep, in which case, why wake her up? I think SC's text was how most adult women would deal with it - since CL was not a child.

That makes more sense to me in context. Thanks.

 

[Popejohn3]

The way its written here makes me think of answers along the lines of JK and CL had fallen out so JK did not contact CL but was just conconcered. Instead she asked SC to contact next morning. JMO MOO

And SC had more time because she was on holiday

 

[Vixey]

That makes more sense to me in context. Thanks.

I agree, but Suzy knew Claudia had no work Friday. I would knock on incase dozed off and she was upset I had not x

 

[Vixey]

I agree, but Suzy knew Claudia had no work Friday. I would knock on incase dozed off and she was upset I had not x

Then again Jen had received the 12 days straight message hours before her disappearance, Wonder If she mentioned to Suzy. You would not have been worried Friday morning If thought Claudia was in work x

 

[Bagpipes]

Suzy has spoken on a facebook site previously regarding the location of Claudias bag on the bed as she followed behind PL. so I believe all three entered to look for claudia x

According to PL, SC wasn't there at the time he entered the home of CL.

 

[Bagpipes]

Why would you ask who lives near there? It doesn't need to involve a home, surely? Is there someone you had in mind?

Really???

 

[MEKON]

By the very nature of the relationship being secret there would be a reasonable chance of the man being seen if the man was staying overnight at Claudias, especially if he was local or a well known person in the area people could recognise.

Perhaps the man owned a second home.
Maybe he was a married man that worked away from home and that work came with overnight accommodation.
He could have had a job that allowed him had access to acommodation at a number of locations.. lets say hotel management as an example.

just thinking of all the possible options

It would be interestinging if any local men who Claudia could possibly of been having an affair or secret relationship had a second home in the vicinity where Claudia lived

Surely this could of caused a problem if the venue was not as secret as people hoped; and an interested party interrupted 'the party'

 

[MEKON]

She may have left for an overnight stay at any time beyond 3pm on the 18th - the calls to her mum etc may of been from elsewhere.

There are plentiful possibilities discussed that have led to Claudia's disappearance;such as: a stranger or someone she knew has picked Claudia up on the way to work

However; if we think about a 'complicated secret Boyfriend' scenario. Then perhaps Claudia could not spend a full night with her 'secret lover'. If the lover had another partner; then surely Mr X would most likely need to be home at a respectable time

I do not think there are that many people that are out the way working night shifts; thus allowing their partners to do what they please on a night time

 

[MEKON]

If the person is known locally, perhaps discretion (Hotel/room) perhaps x

Maybe even a person's second property or a friends house who is out for the night themselves

 

[Blonderabbit]

Generally being the operative word in this case.

Doesn’t make any sense “generally 15Hp) why leave a comfortable property ? Even if it is only out the back door and across the ten foot. And why take your rucksack and straights when you can pick them up in the morning after taking a shower and putting your face on?. Didn’t happen I.M.H.O

 

[MEKON]

someone came back and took it? or

her hair straightners were already in the bag and that was the purpose for her leaving the house that evening.

Possibly came back to Claudia's and picked the rucksack up to make it look like she left for work. And if this is so;perhaps or is someone that has knowledge of Claudia's life

 

[Blonderabbit]

Why would you ask who lives near there? It doesn't need to involve a home, surely? Is there someone you had in mind?

It’s natural to not want to go off on a tangent if you were getting rid of something - drop it off on the way home. Imagine if all of a sudden you had to hide a body - a river has to be a favoured place surely?

 

[MEKON]

Claudia was apparently spending a lot of time in the Acomb area in the weeks up to her disappearance

I was wondering if the change of location was not just a normal keeping "out the road of someone" because there was friction

But is it possible it was a ploy towards someone in the Nags Head, in the mould of "absence makes the heart grow stronger".

Was it to make it known publically that Claudia was spending time in the Acomb area where an 'old flame' was known to be present. This could give someone in the Nags Head a 'nudge' to make a choice

 

[Blonderabbit]

Possibly came back to Claudia's and picked the rucksack up to make it look like she left for work. And if this is so;perhaps or is someone that has knowledge of Claudia's life

Unlikely and unlikely. First of all - if I had just done a deed - I’d want to be as far away as possible to alienate the possible connection of me to the victim, secondly I just cannot see someone being clever enough to think yes will take her rucksack throw the cops off the scent make it look like she went to work, nice idea but unlikely.... very unlikely

 

[Blonderabbit]

Claudia was apparently spending a lot of time in the Acomb area in the weeks up to her disappearance

I was wondering if the change of location was not just a normal keeping "out the road of someone" because there was friction

But is it possible it was a ploy towards someone in the Nags Head, in the mould of "absence makes the heart grow stronger".

Was it to make it known publically that Claudia was spending time in the Acomb area where an 'old flame' was known to be present. This could give someone in the Nags Head a 'nudge' to make a choice

Friction , what friction? Has anyone ever suggested there was friction “officially” as far as GF she was a lovely lovely lovely lovely lovely lass just a lovely lass, Suzy says Cl was like a sister in fact they called each other “Sledge” and then of course dear JK - referring to CL saying she would just run off without letting someone know, she loved her friends and her family.... so friction.... from where?

 

[MEKON]

Friction , what friction? Has anyone ever suggested there was friction “officially” as far as GF she was a lovely lovely lovely lovely lovely lass just a lovely lass, Suzy says Cl was like a sister in fact they called each other “Sledge” and then of course dear JK - referring to CL saying she would just run off without letting someone know, she loved her friends and her family.... so friction.... from where?

It was suggested that Claudia had not gone in the Nags Head for a few days

There has also been statements by the authorities in the sense of complex relationships

Therefore; there could of been friction within a relationship. If Claudia had a secret Boyfriend,then very few people would be aware of any friction

Furthermore; unless the perpetrator was a stranger, there must of been some type of friction somewhere. If there wasn't then Claudia would be still here today

 

[Blonderabbit]

It was suggested that Claudia had not gone in the Nags Head for a few days

There has also been statements by the authorities in the sense of complex relationships

Therefore; there could of been friction within a relationship. If Claudia had a secret Boyfriend,then very few people would be aware of any friction

Furthermore; unless the perpetrator was a stranger, there must of been some type of friction somewhere. If there wasn't then Claudia would be still here today

Claudia went to the nags fri 13th, Sunday 15th, she was due in on Thursday 19th - that’s hardly staying away. She went there more than I did.

complex relationships - we all have them - some more than others - if I disappeared the police I’m sure would have a puzzle on their hands. A secret boyfriend - she had lots of friends that were men, I don’t think any were secret as far as I know (from what I have read) it’s just they are not all known. Friction - perhaps it was a heat of the moment accident, could of happened in
Passion which then left someone in a tricky situation - it may not have been intended.