UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #17

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Odd if it was a digital camera as she is reported not to have a computer

In my opinion there are people who know the 5 on here. It’s a bit like doing a puzzle in the dark - changing pieces about - eventually you will get pieces that fit together. We know it’s highly likely one or two of the five and the others have helped with disposal. But they have never killed again. Though they killed poor defenceless Claudia IMO - kind, well liked, help anyone - even a girl
With no Place to stay - Claudias own dad looking after her like she’s his own ……

I agree that there were probably people who helped with the disposal who aren't killer types....more like a good punch up....but it could be that some people were selling drugs....which might. have the same long term effect.
 
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on the BBC news website it says that the. lead detective says that they've had new information and leads since they announced the search of the wood and lake ar4ea
 
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Difficult to understand that the owners of the land currently being searched took two years, after a study into the terrain and surroundings, to pass on the information (whatever it is), to the police. Unless information was passed on initially but it's taken updated forensic science to evaluate it. Having submitted a file requesting prosecution to the CPS, with regards to the "four" arrested, and the CPS not charging anyone due to lack of evidence, it's obvious that the police have evidence of a Crime and knowledge of a crime, but that it's not strong enough to guarantee a 90% chance of prosecution, and that it may be reliant upon circumstantial evidence rather than weighted in factual scientific evidence..... also known as 'proof'. The police will have had all CCTV material analysed by experts, and will have 99% for sure, seen and noted everything that has been and is being discussed on here. Police tactics throughout the investigation have obviously been carefully planned and organised with aims and objectives in mind.

It's confusing, but the survey from a few years back had nothing to do with this current search. LE started investigating again b/c of a new survey:

Examiner Aug 27: An environmental survey was underway at Sand Hutton Gravel Pits just days before police descended on the area to reopen the Claudia Lawrence murder investigation.
 
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Difficult to understand that the owners of the land currently being searched took two years, after a study into the terrain and surroundings, to pass on the information (whatever it is), to the police. Unless information was passed on initially but it's taken updated forensic science to evaluate it. Having submitted a file requesting prosecution to the CPS, with regards to the "four" arrested, and the CPS not charging anyone due to lack of evidence, it's obvious that the police have evidence of a Crime and knowledge of a crime, but that it's not strong enough to guarantee a 90% chance of prosecution, and that it may be reliant upon circumstantial evidence rather than weighted in factual scientific evidence..... also known as 'proof'. The police will have had all CCTV material analysed by experts, and will have 99% for sure, seen and noted everything that has been and is being discussed on here. Police tactics throughout the investigation have obviously been carefully planned and organised with aims and objectives in mind.
The biogas plant is over the road from the search area. The environmental survey that was done was organised by the church as has been stated in various media links on the page.
 
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Very interesting that the Police forewarned JK that they would begin new searches but not CL’s mother?

because the police know who the perpetrator is! “in my opinion “
 
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I just hope the current searches are a true development and not another goose chase. Remaining positive
Me too They must have pretty significant information to be spending almost 2 weeks searching the area.
 
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Other thing to note in the uk, the tendency would be to look right first to cross a road, alleyman def looks left at the end of the road……
But he didn't cross the road and he may have looked left to see who was coming in that direction.
 
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Does anyone know who owned the corner house at the time alleyman was filmed
Are you referring to the corner house / Heworth Road / Place or the corner house next to the Pub?
 
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I agree that there were probably people who helped with the disposal who aren't killer types....more like a good punch up....but it could be that some people were selling drugs....which might. have the same long term effect.
I would say that drugs were definitely involved of some kind, either recreational or stimulants for middle aged men who needed a bit of help.

IMO
 
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on the BBC news website it says that the. lead detective says that they've had new information and leads since they announced the search of the wood and lake ar4ea
@cortina I would say that MSM has disappointed in its reporting recently, not just on this case but generally.
I like to follow what the police say.
So many rabbit holes created by poor journalism.

Keep an open mind ..
 
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I’m going with one killer and 4 accessories ;)

humble opinion etc
Interesting?
By accessory do you mean hair straighteners or the person (Accessory to) who's house the identical hair straighteners were removed from by Police?
 
  • #36
So his brothers van on drive here ! Thank you Woodburnbay x
Perhaps changing locks as new owners added security.
So handy to have locksmith in the family.
 
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I would say that drugs were definitely involved of some kind, either recreational or stimulants for middle aged men who needed a bit of help.

IMO
You sound like your an authority IMO
 
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