UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #18

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  • #461
If that is so surly the police would tell the other person and or his her partner that the phones were close together ??
They may have told parents but not necessarily the public. Why would they.
 
  • #462
IMO Local Involvement and POI's plus friends know. I suspect there was a disagreement re county lines drugs and Claudia got in the way.
It is totally unacceptable for Ruanes, Cooper and Robinson to stay silent and say no comment (Already Named POIs in Media already so no breach of rules)

However, I do think that lack of comment from JK and SC, her "Best Friends" borders on Ambivolence.
Can I just say I think you have the wrong word and it borders upon indifference by JK And SC - especially SC - I put the full weight of Claudias father going to his grave without closure on SC’s shoulders!
 
  • #463
If that is so surly the police would tell the other person and or his her partner that the phones were close together ??
NYP have not ruled Campbell out - ss has a solid alibi. Campbell admitted to passing York. Why did he pass York - wasn’t there a faster alternative route?.
 
  • #464
If that is so surly the police would tell the other person and or his her partner that the phones were close together ?
If that is so surly the police would tell the other person and or his her partner that the phones were close together ??
How could they do that? They would be in breach of data protection. The police have to be very careful when it comes to disclosure, apart from anything else it could impede a trial
 
  • #465
Can I just say I think you have the wrong word and it borders upon indifference by JK And SC - especially SC - I put the full weight of Claudias father going to his grave without closure on SC’s shoulders!
Yes-Indiference works for me.
SC was as she said "A sh** Friend" As quoted in media on Channel 5 Documentary-Not my words but hers.
 
  • #466
Wonder what time on the 19th Campbell passed York ?
 
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  • #468
They may have told parents but not necessarily the public. Why would they.
What I mean is like we know your husbands phone was feet away from Claudia’s!
Can you give us an explanation for this ?
 
  • #469
They may have told parents but not necessarily the public. Why would they.
What I mean is like we know your husbands phone was feet away from Claudia’s!
Can you give us an explanation for this ?
 
  • #470
They may have told parents but not necessarily the public. Why would they.
What I mean is like we know your husbands phone was feet away from Claudia’s!
Can you give us an explanation for this ?
 
  • #471
They may have told parents but not necessarily the public. Why would they.
What I mean is like we know your husbands phone was feet away from Claudia’s!
Can you give us an explanation for this ?
 
  • #472
Found a bit about RC’s trip to collect 4 vans

He says he was crossing to Italy when she disappeared - wonder if this was when she was reported missing or when she failed to show at work

Some of MSM are inaccurate re the texting part. One newspaper says she was texting Steve Samons as one of her final texts about coming to Cyprus and being unaffordable.
Express are saying that text was to Robbie Blake.

This is why I believe that we shouldn't put too much weight behind MSM.

We are told that Samons has a cast iron alibi but was he friends with Blake and did the Alibi mean anything.
Samons was also good friends with Landlord at Nags George Foreman.

If Blake was passing York, would he not stop by toes his old friend Claudia and pop in to see George at Nags?
 
  • #473
Some of MSM are inaccurate re the texting part. One newspaper says she was texting Steve Samons as one of her final texts about coming to Cyprus and being unaffordable.
Express are saying that text was to Robbie Blake.

This is why I believe that we shouldn't put too much weight behind MSM.

We are told that Samons has a cast iron alibi but was he friends with Blake and did the Alibi mean anything.
Samons was also good friends with Landlord at Nags George Foreman.

If Blake was passing York, would he not stop by toes his old friend Claudia and pop in to see George at Nags?
It could depend on the timings ferry etc - he went to Italy first and then across to Cyprus according to the link above
 
  • #474
What I mean is like we know your husbands phone was feet away from Claudia’s!
Can you give us an explanation for this ?
Im not sure if I’d ask a question in that phrase. You could ask - can you tell me what time your husband came in from work on the 18th March 2009?, what did you have for tea?
 
  • #475
I have always felt that she was shielding someone.
The person who was seen at her door a few afternoons before with the fringe when she looked shocked at his arrival and looked both ways before ushering him in.

Was this someone from Cyprus, SS?

Was RB who drove from Glasgow with fleet of vans that he was taking to Cypruse via Europe involved?
He said that on the way from Glasgow to the port, he passed York but didn't stop.

Did he stop, what happened and was Claudia taken

Was she staying away from nags because she was with him each evening
IMO
yes, you've clarified the. most likely scenario for me
ive always felt the sighting at. the. door to. be key...for her to be shocked etc would mean for me. someone. who was unwelcome in the. local community....ive never really bought the theory that a man was jealous enough of Claudia seeing someone else to attack either of them...you could say that. unfortunately I don't. think any man took Claudia seriously enough..and, if it. was someone. else boyfriend. or husband the only risk would be their wife or girlfriend knowing and. if they lived near enough to Claudia to see him arriving, then they'd have either seen him in that pinpoint of time or not...and I don't really believe in a planned attack. on that basis.
thanks
 
  • #476
yes, you've clarified the. most likely scenario for me
ive always felt the sighting at. the. door to. be key...for her to be shocked etc would mean for me. someone. who was unwelcome in the. local community....ive never really bought the theory that a man was jealous enough of Claudia seeing someone else to attack either of them...you could say that. unfortunately I don't. think any man took Claudia seriously enough..and, if it. was someone. else boyfriend. or husband the only risk would be their wife or girlfriend knowing and. if they lived near enough to Claudia to see him arriving, then they'd have either seen him in that pinpoint of time or not...and I don't really believe in a planned attack. on that basis.
thanks
Hi Cortina, hope you’re having a nice weekend! What evidence do you have that it wasn’t planned? Thank you
 
  • #477
I have created composites of the 'movement' in the footage and pointed out what I see from studying figure movement and shadows. I see something more complex than simply a person walking to an alley and back. On the return-journey one frame/one suspect caught my eye. I'm only saying what I see and deduce.
 

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  • #478
Im not sure if I’d ask a question in that phrase. You could ask - can you tell me what time your husband came in from work on the 18th March 2009?, what did you have for tea?
Exactly this. A competent investigating officer, interviewing a POI or someone close to the case, wouldn't disclose crucial information in a way that could let a suspect off the hook.
 
  • #479
I have created composites of the 'movement' in the footage and pointed out what I see from studying figure movement and shadows. I see something more complex than simply a person walking to an alley and back. On the return-journey one frame/one suspect caught my eye. I'm only saying what I see and deduce.
Thought provoking for sure, it’s a confusing couple of images. I see (and this is my opinion) a man in both morning and night on his own. I have put the footage under the microscope of Adobe - there’s only 1 person and whilst there are times as stills it looks feminine - when you look at the moving image as whole it’s a man - the same man. A man in his fifties - is a fair description. It’s not JK. Though it wouldn’t surprise me to learn she was present when whatever happened, Happened
 
  • #480
Exactly this. A competent investigating officer, interviewing a POI or someone close to the case, wouldn't disclose crucial information in a way that could let a suspect off the hook.
Well by not disclosing some info looks like they let him off any way !
And what about releasing the clip of allyway so so late in the investigation?
What reason could they have had go not releasing it early ?
 
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