UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #7

[MajorLang]

It was well known that Claudia had a love of horses from an early age and had her her own pony when a young girl. In this BBC article about her disappearance I noted that it said she continued to ride up until she disappeared. I wondered if anyone knows if she owned her own horse or if she rode out of an riding school/equestrian centre.
these could potentially opened up a new group of people she may have came into contact with.

What happened to Claudia? - BBC News

Her horse died not long before she disappeared but I do understand where you are going here

 

[MajorLang]

It was well known that Claudia had a love of horses from an early age and had her her own pony when a young girl. In this BBC article about her disappearance I noted that it said she continued to ride up until she disappeared. I wondered if anyone knows if she owned her own horse or if she rode out of an riding school/equestrian centre.
these could potentially opened up a new group of people she may have came into contact with.

What happened to Claudia? - BBC News

Her horse died not long before she disappeared but I do understand where you are going here

Is there a chance the police were not able to trace CL’s movements weeks / months before she disappeared as well as they claim or hoped to ?
After all it’s seems mobile footprints for the Acomb area only came about ( revealed ) years later ?!
Where did her car travel to before it broke down ?
Did she pick the smoker from his home or place of work ?

i spoke with an ex SIO of police-not York who suggested that police will know her locations but are keeping their powder dry for a court case.

 

[keep-it-real]

Her horse died not long before she disappeared but I do understand where you are going here

Do you know where it was stabled? ..
Im curious people with a love of horses usually have horsey friends or acquaintances that they talk horse with.
we know that when she was on holiday in Cyprus she put out feelers for work with horses.

 

[Popejohn3]

Do you know where it was stabled? ..
Im curious people with a love of horses usually have horsey friends or acquaintances that they talk horse with.
we know that when she was on holiday in Cyprus she put out feelers for work with horses.

Was it Ormskirk ?
Also this is a very revealing article
Missing Claudia Lawrence did not come to Cyprus 4 years ago, insist pals | UK | News | Express.co.uk

 

[Pinkizzy]

Ormskirk is near Liverpool

 

[MajorLang]

Was it Ormskirk ?
Also this is a very revealing article
Missing Claudia Lawrence did not come to Cyprus 4 years ago, insist pals | UK | News | Express.co.uk

Why would she stable her horse the other side of the country @Popejohn3

 

[MajorLang]

Was it Ormskirk ?
Also this is a very revealing article
Missing Claudia Lawrence did not come to Cyprus 4 years ago, insist pals | UK | News | Express.co.uk

The article is inaccurate. She didn't text Robbie she sent text to Steve Sammons. Who lived in Cyprus and was a good friend of George Foreman Nags Head landlord

 

[MajorLang]

The work of Hale,Hayward,Wahidin and Wincup - CRIMINOLOGY (2005) Chapter 11 page 228-235 :

Although the work of Larry Ray is referring to violent crime and crime in general (and not murder); it can provide insight into explanations of murder. Ray writes that the British Crime Survey suggests that perpetrators and their victims often know each other- either as intimates or acquaintances. The pattern is clearly gendered; with men being represented highly in incidents of stranger violence and domestic violence

Ray further uses the work of Croall (1998: 137) to give ratios of certain crimes committed by Male and Females:

Ratio (M:F)

Sexual Offences 75:1
Common Assault 7:1
Violence Against the Person 5.7: 1

Ray adds that Gender patterning of crime is not a new trend as Males have been over-represented in all major violent crime categories since the collection of crime statistics began.

In 1992 only 8.7% of convictions for violence against a person were conducted by Females; in 2002 the % was 10%

Thus; we could safely state that Claudia's perpetrator was most likely Male



Similarly Larry Ray offers explanations about the nature of masculinity and its relationship with domestic violence. Although he is suggesting risk factors associated with Domestic violence. There are common risk factors associated with perpetrators of murder and domestic violence. These are: Alcohol abuse,Depression/Personality Disorder and low educational attainment

A few more posts @MEKON and you will have published the whole of that book on here

 

[MajorLang]

Was it Ormskirk ?
Also this is a very revealing article
Missing Claudia Lawrence did not come to Cyprus 4 years ago, insist pals | UK | News | Express.co.uk

If you knew anything about looking after horses it's that you have to tend them at least twice a day. Are you saying that each morning and night she drove from York to the North West and back-Have you been taking some of that stuff that Claudias friends were pedling?

 

[MEKON]

A few more posts @MEKON and you will have published the whole of that book on here

'' Nargh....coz there's over 600 Pages in the book ''

 

[Popejohn3]

Why would she stable her horse the other side of the country @Popejohn3

Obviously I got it wrong I’ll try and find what I read in the past

 

[Popejohn3]

If you knew anything about looking after horses it's that you have to tend them at least twice a day. Are you saying that each morning and night she drove from York to the North West and back-Have you been taking some of that stuff that Claudias friends were pedling?

Lol

 

[Popejohn3]

The article is inaccurate. She didn't text Robbie she sent text to Steve Sammons. Who lived in Cyprus and was a good friend of George Foreman Nags Head landlord

Yes this a reason an example of the shoddy reporting.Also the number of times CL went to Cyprus some say four some say eight

 

[keep-it-real]

If you knew anything about looking after horses it's that you have to tend them at least twice a day. Are you saying that each morning and night she drove from York to the North West and back-Have you been taking some of that stuff that Claudias friends were pedling?

Certain stabling facilities offer a range of equine care, tending your horse on your behalf is one of them and can be included in the fee.
There is also a consideration that she may have stabled the horse with a friend/horsey friend/family friend/ at a reduced price and they also tended the horse for her.
We know Claudia worked shifts her early morning shift started at 6.am and finnished at around 2.30pm so travelling to/tending /and travelling to work would mean a very early start for Claudia.
I think its likely any private stabling of the horse included tending it.

Cobweb died of old age before Claudia went missing.

 

[Frivolous]

This case reminds me of S5 of Line of Duty, regarding the OCG and all that crap. Not sure why

 

[keep-it-real]

Obviously I got it wrong I’ll try and find what I read in the past

The article isnt shoddy to me Robbie Campbell clearly talks about coversations with Claudia and discloses that Claudia had arranged to stay with him on the trip she had arranged for the Easter holidays.
Its possible the conversations she had with both Robbie and Steve included discussions about the flights being expensive due to school holidays this would be a normal conversation subject with them both if they both speaking to her about coming to Cyprus. Its interesting to note tho that Steve new nothing of her pans to stay with Robbie (steve said she usally stayed in a hotel)
Clearly similar conversations were being had with both men as both have mentioned conversations about finding work with horses.

 

[Popejohn3]

Certain stabling facilities offer a range of equine care, tending your horse on your behalf in one of them and can be included in the fee.
There is also a consideration that she may have stabled the horse with a friend/horsey friend/family friend/ at a reduce and also tended the horse for her.
We know Claudia worked shifts her early morning shift started at 6.am and finnished at around 2.30pm so travelling to/tending /and travelling to work would mean a very early start for Claudia.
I think its likely any private stabling of the horse included tending it.

Cobweb died of old age before Claudia went missing.

Absolutely Cl must have had someone to tend to her horse imo

 

[MajorLang]

Certain stabling facilities offer a range of equine care, tending your horse on your behalf is one of them and can be included in the fee.
There is also a consideration that she may have stabled the horse with a friend/horsey friend/family friend/ at a reduced price and they also tended the horse for her.
We know Claudia worked shifts her early morning shift started at 6.am and finnished at around 2.30pm so travelling to/tending /and travelling to work would mean a very early start for Claudia.
I think its likely any private stabling of the horse included tending it.

Cobweb died of old age before Claudia went missing.

Yes the horse dies and one of Claudias female friends mentioned in a social media group that Claudia tended her horse daily up until that point

 

[MajorLang]

This case reminds me of S5 of Line of Duty, regarding the OCG and all that crap. Not sure why

Probably because undercover cops have been mentioned in this case

 

[MajorLang]

Pl

'' Nargh....coz there's over 600 Pages in the book ''

Pleased about that
You could summarise what the stats would say about Claudias killer
Age
Gender
Social demographic
Etc.