UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #8

[Popejohn3]

Who are you calling a shadow?

A picture paints a thousand words ...

 

[keep-it-real]

Possibly but unfortunately, the home of the person who I suspect is alley man isn't visible on google maps so I can't check out his car.
We do know MS had a light blue old Ford Focus which will have piqued NYP's interest in him.

Do you know his workplace ... maybe worth doing a Google map/street walk search on that

 

[Yozzer]

A picture paints a thousand words ...

Very poetic.

 

[Yozzer]

Do you know his workplace ... maybe worth doing a Google map/street walk search on that

Yes I've tried but it's a large employer and multiple large car parks with changing landscapes over the years if you get my drift. Will give it another go....

 

[Deleted member 102539]

I had forgotten the landlords name but it was Richard Cartwright. I hadn’t previously seen this article with a picture of him though. I definitely think he’s a red herring and likely NOT the man on CCTV. Despite the book making it sound gospel that it was him on the footage.

Family of Richard Cartwright say he was not a suspect in Claudia Lawrence investigation

He would fit the type of men very well: more money than the other men together (perhaps), because he was so busy earning money, similar age group. Unmarried though and possibly not used to have a relationship with a woman, also perhaps not willing to give a woman a long leash. Idea may have been: who I pay for, is mine (business-minded as he was described). - I don't think, is HAS to be him, who caused Claudia's disappearance. But I don't understand, why he fGs should not be the one, when all the men we heard of, could "easily" also have been the abductor. Did one or the other help him, because someone was dependent on him? Speculation and MOO

 

[Deleted member 102539]

I believe that she worked the night of the 19th and in her way home passed Claudias with her boyfriend. She knew that Claudia did not turn up for a meeting with Suzy. I'm not saying she worked the night of the 18th.

 

[Popejohn3]

Who are you calling a

He would fit the type of men very well: more money than the other men together (perhaps), because he was so busy earning money, similar age group. Unmarried though and possibly not used to have a relationship with a woman, also perhaps not willing to give a woman a long leash. Idea may have been: who I pay for, is mine (business-minded as he was described). - I don't think, is HAS to be him, who caused Claudia's disappearance. But I don't understand, why he fGs should not be the one, when all the men we heard of, could "easily" also have been the abductor. Did one or the other help him, because someone was dependent on him? Speculation and MOO

most people thought he was good man

 

[Popejohn3]

No @Officer Dibble its not obvious but it's true
She would have know how to lay things out and perhaps leave the hair dye out to make it look like Claudia was disappearing and disguised.

We can’t have it both ways here “ make it look like Claudia was disappearing and also make it look like Claudia went to work as usual which only gives a 30 minute window cause come 6 am she would be missed !

 

[Deadbeat]

I don’t know what DO stands for but I assume those are the initials of Claudia’s work colleague who suddenly remembered, a year later, that she’d mentioned seeing a boyfriend on the Monday night?

Check out this article regarding him:
Colleague of missing York chef Claudia Lawrence comes forward with fresh lead

I found this in particular VERY interesting:


Det Supt Galloway said Claudia’s colleague had decided to give the police this information after watching the recent appeal on BBC’s Crimewatch.

He said: “He had been reviewing how he could help the investigation on the first anniversary and he remembered this piece of information.

“He is a person known to the investigation from the outset. It is information he has decided to impart today. I don’t criticise him but I would be a liar if I said I didn’t find it very frustrating.”

I’m wondering now if he just made this new ‘information’ up for some reason. It’s very suspect.

Those ‘probe statistics’ at the bottom of the article are interesting as well, although obviously from ten years ago.

 

[Deadbeat]

Det Supt Galloway said Claudia’s casual boyfriend, who she had been seeing for several months, had another long-term partner and had not been definitively eliminated from the inquiry.

Sorry, which man was this again? Her ‘casual boyfriend’ (At the time of her disappearance) who had a long term partner, who she’d been seeing for several months? There’s a lot of people connected to this case and I get confused. Some we know names for, others we don’t...

 

[Inspector Evans]

most people thought he was good man

I don't want to derail this thread in a needless direction but was it ever said if RC drank in the Nags head? I'm assuming if it was him turning up on one of the CCTVs for whatever reason he must've lived pretty locally so could just pop up easily.

 

[Yozzer]

Det Supt Galloway said Claudia’s casual boyfriend, who she had been seeing for several months, had another long-term partner and had not been definitively eliminated from the inquiry.

Sorry, which man was this again? Her ‘casual boyfriend’ (At the time of her disappearance) who had a long term partner, who she’d been seeing for several months? There’s a lot of people connected to this case and I get confused. Some we know names for, others we don’t...

This has also been described elsewhere as a long term casual relationship (between he and CL). I suppose one person's idea of a ltr is another person's brief encounter.
The Tuesday night boyfriend (if he existed) was the alleged 'new' one.

 

[Yozzer]

I don't want to derail this thread in a needless direction but was it ever said if RC drank in the Nags head? I'm assuming if it was him turning up on one of the CCTVs for whatever reason he must've lived pretty locally so could just pop up easily.

Apparently he was a loner, never went out drinking with the lads according to one article and was a workaholic. He is also mentioned in the medium.com blog which was written by someone who worked in the Nag's Head and knew the locals including Claudia and co. and states that she didn't recognise him (RC) as having drunk at the NH while she worked there.
PS you are not derailing the thread whatsoever.

 

[Popejohn3]

This has also been described elsewhere as a long term casual relationship (between he and CL). I suppose one person's idea of a ltr is another person's brief encounter.
The Tuesday night boyfriend (if he existed) was the alleged 'new' one.

He exited alright !

 

[Yozzer]

He exited alright !

Proof?

 

[Popejohn3]

Proof?

The police should have the proof by now

 

[Popejohn3]

Apparently he was a loner, never went out drinking with the lads according to one article and was a workaholic. He is also mentioned in the medium.com blog which was written by someone who worked in the Nag's Head and knew the locals including Claudia and co. and states that she didn't recognise him (RC) as having drunk at the NH while she worked there.
PS you are not derailing the thread whatsoever.

What is this Meduim.com?
Is it Moonsafari article?

 

[Andyboy]

He exited alright !

Must be true, the chef said so, only a year later mind

 

[Angleterre]

Hi sister !

Hi PJ3

 

[MajorLang]

He would fit the type of men very well: more money than the other men together (perhaps), because he was so busy earning money, similar age group. Unmarried though and possibly not used to have a relationship with a woman, also perhaps not willing to give a woman a long leash. Idea may have been: who I pay for, is mine (business-minded as he was described). - I don't think, is HAS to be him, who caused Claudia's disappearance. But I don't understand, why he fGs should not be the one, when all the men we heard of, could "easily" also have been the abductor. Did one or the other help him, because someone was dependent on him? Speculation and MOO

Cartwright had a brother with learning difficulties and as well as working hard he would be supporting his brother.
Perhaps someone was trying to set him up as the fall guy (patsy)for this but it didn't work. A more successful set up of someone occurred recently in the Jo Cox politician killing.