UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #9

[Tri-Lambda delta]

BUS FOOTAGE. Enhanced... to show you how the final image was derived. Orientation corrected on first pass... brightness and contrast upped for second pass. Third Pass has a ZOOM-IN on a detail (vehicle occupants).

I have included the location to the left of the vehicle so that Member:'keep-it-real' can see the area he's also studied.

 

[Andyboy]

The Police released the 'make and model'.

Correct. (And you won't catch the KILLER(s) by finding an old Ford Focus Hatchback either, that is if THAT 'make' was even correct.). The vehicle, due to it's location, parked at the place of work of the #1 suspect in 2009; whose Modus Operandi surfaced the next month of April 2009 by landing him in Court to face a sex charge... at this place of work... & Sporting the connecting rare 'football shirt' (racing up Heworth).... and with business connections to LH and NH(now deceased)... and a body (possibly moved July 2018) located at the deceased's place of work. Makes the 'make and model' being right-or-wrong irrelevant.

The vehicle isn't the Killer's signature. It's decoration, the trophy-shirt MAY BE.

If I was a Detective facing 4 suspects I would passively ask each in turn...."What football teams do YOUR friends support? And tell me WHY they support them."

The 17th March 2009 - The Arsenal vs Hull city FA Cup Q-Final was at Wembley and this very same day, the 17th March was St.Patricks Day (Lots of drinking!) ... so who drove you home? (It was a late kick-off.) Of the group... Who is known as the local sober driver? That avenue of questioning may gain fruit.

The Hull shirt is a good spot, as a big arsenal fan I was at that game, at the Emirates not at Wembley, not that it matters much, I have never seen Hull play in white, I suppose because there home kit is so unusual it rarely causes a colour clash, I looked up the history of hulls kits and they had a white kit in 2007,2008,also I thought that as its Yorkshire it is probably Leeds and not hull

 

[Tri-Lambda delta]

The Hull shirt is a good spot, as a big arsenal fan I was at that game, at the Emirates not at Wembley, not that it matters much, I have never seen Hull play in white, I suppose because there home kit is so unusual it rarely causes a colour clash, I looked up the history of hulls kits and they had a white kit in 2007,2008,also I thought that as its Yorkshire it is probably Leeds and not hull

EMIRATES: Tuesday, 17 March 2009 Arsenal (2) vs Hull City (1) was the FA CUP QUARTER FINAL.

Hey Andyboy... well done YOU MADE ME FIND THIS! The WHITE KIT (speeding up Heworth) was another ARSENAL KIT...but WHITE.

The EMIRATES GAME (you mentioned 19th Dec 2009 must have been the one you were at) was for the league game of 2009 Arsenal vs Hull City. Here is the program... (but thank you, as you made me FIND THIS!) which NOW MEANS the #1 Suspect hangs a RED Arsenal Kit in his car... and the WHITE ARSENAL kit TOO! according to this 2009 evidence....

This is amazing evidence making the DRIVER a total Arsenal fan.

My #1Suspect is George Pavlou owner of the VUDU LOUNGE. The hanger in his car (parked outside his club Oct 2009) is a RED Arsenal one. The Heworth Rd car hanger ( 18th March 2009) is a WHITE Arsenal hanger. Both Pavlou Bros wanted the scrap yard owned by The Horwell Bros (Brother NH is now deceased, which is suspicious, the other LH had an affair with CL).

This is what made him my #1Suspect George Pavlou, of the Vudu Lounge, York, in 'sexual touching' court shame

 

[Andyboy]

The Police released the 'make and model'.

Correct. (And you won't catch the KILLER(s) by finding an old Ford Focus Hatchback either, that is if THAT 'make' was even correct.). The vehicle, due to it's location, parked at the place of work of the #1 suspect in 2009; whose Modus Operandi surfaced the next month of April 2009 by landing him in Court to face a sex charge... at this place of work... & Sporting the connecting rare 'football shirt' (racing up Heworth).... and with business connections to LH and NH(now deceased)... and a body (possibly moved July 2018) located at the deceased's place of work. Makes the 'make and model' being right-or-wrong irrelevant.

The vehicle isn't the Killer's signature. It's decoration, the trophy-shirt MAY BE.

If I was a Detective facing 4 suspects I would passively ask each in turn...."What football teams do YOUR friends support? And tell me WHY they support them."

The 17th March 2009 - The Arsenal vs Hull city FA Cup Q-Final was at Wembley and this very same day, the 17th March was St.Patricks Day (Lots of drinking!) ... so who drove you home? (It was a late kick-off.) Of the group... Who is known as the local sober driver? That avenue of questioning may gain fruit.

The Hull shirt is a good spot, as a big arsenal fan I was at that game, at the Emirates not at Wembley, not that it matters much, I have never seen Hull play in white, I suppose because there home kit is so unusual it rarely causes a colour clash, I looked up the history of hulls kits and they had a white kit in 2007,2008,also I thought that as its Yorkshire it is probably Leeds and not hull

Hey Andyboy... well done YOU MADE ME FIND THIS! The WHITE KIT (speeding up Heworth) was another ARSENAL KIT...

WEMBLEY: Tuesday, 17 March 2009 Arsenal (2) vs Hull City (1) was the FA CUP QUARTER FINAL.

The EMIRATES GAME (you mentioned 19th Dec 2009) was for the league game of 2009 Arsenal vs Hull City. Here is the program... (but thank you, as you made me FIND THIS!) which NOW MEANS the #1 Suspect hangs a RED Arsenal Kit in his car... and the WHITE ARSENAL kit TOO! according to this 2009 evidence....

This is amazing evidence making the DRIVER a total Arsenal fan.

Hey Andyboy... well done YOU MADE ME FIND THIS! The WHITE KIT (speeding up Heworth) was another ARSENAL KIT...but WHITE.

WEMBLEY: Tuesday, 17 March 2009 Arsenal (2) vs Hull City (1) was the FA CUP QUARTER FINAL.

The EMIRATES GAME (you mentioned 19th Dec 2009) was for the league game of 2009 Arsenal vs Hull City. Here is the program... (but thank you, as you made me FIND THIS!) which NOW MEANS the #1 Suspect hangs a RED Arsenal Kit in his car... and the WHITE ARSENAL kit TOO! according to this 2009 evidence....

This is amazing evidence making the DRIVER a total Arsenal fan.

Probably is an arsenal fan, but march 17th game definitely not at Wembley, was probably televised as well which would make him a big fan travelling all that way midweek

 

[Tri-Lambda delta]

The Hull shirt is a good spot, as a big arsenal fan I was at that game, at the Emirates not at Wembley, not that it matters much, I have never seen Hull play in white, I suppose because there home kit is so unusual it rarely causes a colour clash, I looked up the history of hulls kits and they had a white kit in 2007,2008,also I thought that as its Yorkshire it is probably Leeds and not hull


Probably is an arsenal fan, but march 17th game definitely not at Wembley, was probably televised as well which would make him a big fan travelling all that way midweek

Here is the BBC SPORT link... By BBC SPORT's Phil McNulty

BBC SPORT | Football | FA Cup | Arsenal 2-1 Hull.

and a YouTube link to the game

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[Andyboy]

Here is the BBC SPORT link... By BBC SPORT's Phil McNulty

BBC SPORT | Football | FA Cup | Arsenal 2-1 Hull.

Set up a game at Wembley against Chelsea in the next round, all semi finals at Wembley, never been a quarter final there, anyway on reflection I don't think he is an arsenal fan, I think the red and white shirts are of a different team, bearing in mind where heworth is I'd say he is a York City fan, home kit Red, white kit away

 

[keep-it-real]

Can you see the figure between them on the back seat? I won't speculate on here. Just sticking to results. I shan't show the second set of people as I forwarded that one to the Claudia Laurence: Cold Case. (I needed to SHARE this. In case I went missing.)

Do you mean the one wearing the hat?

 

[Tri-Lambda delta]

Can a MODERATOR amend any time I've said WEMBLEY for the location of the 17th March 2009 FA Cup Quarter Final... and change it to the correct location of EMIRATES. Please. [It's a technical amendment, but lets correct it for the record.]

Good spot 'andyboy'. PS: It's nothing like the 2008-2009 York City kit.

I'm going off what the KIT actually looks like in the car. I'm not trying to crowbar my own opinion of any location or apply my own influence to what the kit could be. I'm was trying to identify the actual kit in the car. The same way the actual car was identified by the police.

 

[keep-it-real]

Can a MODERATOR correct any of my previous comments and change any time I've said WEMBLEY for the location of the 17th March 2009 FA Cup Quarter Final... and amend it to EMIRATES. Please. [It's a technical amendment, but lets correct it for the record.] Good spot andyboy.

I'll pop back in a month to see if anything has moved along.

Disappearing so soon again?

 

[keep-it-real]

Can a MODERATOR amend any time I've said WEMBLEY for the location of the 17th March 2009 FA Cup Quarter Final... and change it to the correct location of EMIRATES. Please. [It's a technical amendment, but lets correct it for the record.]

Good spot 'andyboy'.

I shouldnt worry about it @Tri-Lambda delta everyone will see that @Andyboys corrected you.

 

[Andyboy]

Can a MODERATOR amend any time I've said WEMBLEY for the location of the 17th March 2009 FA Cup Quarter Final... and change it to the correct location of EMIRATES. Please. [It's a technical amendment, but lets correct it for the record.]

Good spot 'andyboy'.

No worries, it's only because I went that I remembered

 

[Tri-Lambda delta]

Well there is one last THING to show... I can give you a link to a place and let you all deduce the scene for yourself. You decide (like Columbo) what was happening on (July 2018) in the Horwell Scrap Yard that was sold.

What did they uncover? Or were moving. (Roll your mouse) to ZOOM IN.
PS: Months after this (Nov 2018) NH died abroad.

LINK> خرائط ‪Google

Be it innocent or not... it needs checking out.‬‏‏
Disclaimer: Everyone is innocent until proven guilty in a Court of Law.

 

[Popejohn3]

EMIRATES: Tuesday, 17 March 2009 Arsenal (2) vs Hull City (1) was the FA CUP QUARTER FINAL.

Hey Andyboy... well done YOU MADE ME FIND THIS! The WHITE KIT (speeding up Heworth) was another ARSENAL KIT...but WHITE.

The EMIRATES GAME (you mentioned 19th Dec 2009 must have been the one you were at) was for the league game of 2009 Arsenal vs Hull City. Here is the program... (but thank you, as you made me FIND THIS!) which NOW MEANS the #1 Suspect hangs a RED Arsenal Kit in his car... and the WHITE ARSENAL kit TOO! according to this 2009 evidence....

This is amazing evidence making the DRIVER a total Arsenal fan.

My #1Suspect is George Pavlou owner of the VUDU LOUNGE. The hanger in his car (parked outside his club Oct 2009) is a RED Arsenal one. The Heworth Rd car hanger ( 18th March 2009) is a WHITE Arsenal hanger. Both Pavlou Bros wanted the scrap yard owned by The Horwell Bros (Brother NH is now deceased, which is suspicious, the other LH had an affair with CL).

This is what made him my #1Suspect George Pavlou, of the Vudu Lounge, York, in 'sexual touching' court shame

And having read the article on G P is probably how the police eliminated him from the CL inquiry !
IE that is how they ( imo )managed to get his dna and finger prints and they did not match anything the police had re CL

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Well there is one last THING to show... I can give you a link to a place and let you all deduce the scene for yourself. You decide (like Columbo) what was happening on (July 2018) in the Horwell Scrap Yard that was sold.

What did they uncover? Or were moving. (Roll your mouse) to ZOOM IN.
PS: Months after this (Nov 2018) NH died abroad.

LINK> خرائط ‪Google

Be it innocent or not... it needs checking out.‬‏‏
Disclaimer: Everyone is innocent until proven guilty in a Court of Law.

That does really look quite extraordinary! Did police ever follow up, do you know?

 

[MajorLang]

Hi Major 'Hooters' Lang.



I actually read your posts weeks ago and you're the person who motivated me to actually put evidence together rather than to just make comments. Sorry that you never got to see my first message(s) as they all went to the Cold Case... but if I stick to the facts of 'WHAT CAN BE SEEN BY EVERYONE' (including a judge) it may make the Police make a move and gain a conviction rather than a bounce-back.

When I saw the 'football hanger' in the left rear window of the vehicle travelling up Heworth I thought the owner of this vehicle parked on the streets of York 'Oct 2009' was connected to a 4 man narrative (attachment inc below) But... I suspect my 4 suspects are a different 4 to your 4. And the DIRECTION traveled up Heworth from the suspect's home or 'place of work' would make sense. [The license plate is visible on Google Street Maps, as is its location.

I've redacted the image... but am allowing you to see 'the football hanger'. Looks like the 2008-2009 Arsenal shirt. [These hangers are rare.] The image is stamped '(c) Google 2019' but trust me its 100% Oct 2009. (Arsenal played vs Hull City FA Cup Quarter final 17th March 2009)

I see a hanger. There is no way from the photo you show that a football team can be identified.

but which car was this in as your not showing "braking car"?

 

[HongKongPhooey]

And having read the article on G P is probably how the police eliminated him from the CL inquiry !
IE that is how they ( imo )managed to get his dna and finger prints and they did not match anything the police had re CL

When you say what they had - you mean from inside her home? Being as she hasnt been found. But if someone wasnt in her home, that doesnt prove a whole lot to me.

I dont know of the person GP, it's just a general observation.

 

[MajorLang]

My #1 Suspect was in court April 2009 (the month after Claudia's disappearance) for a drunken sexual offence and narrowly avoided being put on the sexual register. [THIS PUT HIM ON MY RADAR] He may own the vehicle parked outside his premises (as seen above, sporting 'football hanger', similar to Heworth speeding-vehicle). Is connected to LH, and the now deceased NH (which I think is very suspicious ). I have seen a pic of my #1 Suspect with NH (now deceased) at the location where I think CL is/was.

Disclaimer: My #1 Suspect is 'Innocent until proven guilty in a Court of Law'. And I'm talking about you HERE because of your own conduct in April 2009. So forgive me if I'm off... but you KNOW why you're my #1. Start talking~Hand yourself in.

Your talking about one of Pavlous from Vudu lounge who assaulted a girl who was at his club.
But this doesn't mean he had anything to do with Claudias dissapearance because he "groped" a female???

 

[Popejohn3]

When you say what they had - you mean from inside her home? Being as she hasnt been found. But if someone wasnt in her home, that doesnt prove a whole lot to me.

I dont know of the person GP, it's just a general observation.

These brothers were flagged up very early on in the investigation !

 

[HongKongPhooey]

These brothers were flagged up very early on in the investigation !

Were they arrested?

 

[MajorLang]

I think she was uncovered July 2018 by a third-party. Innocent, maybe.
And I'm saying this due to an image taken by Google Street Maps.

It may have caused NH some stress (left country) he died months later.
This is just my opinion. This is murky.

This is just a Google shot of excavations preparing the old scrap yard land for building student accommodation on. There are no signs that anyone has found anything and so your comments are a huge stretch of imagination.
You started your postings well with a great account of a breaking car. Your account of a football team hanger that has no relationship to Claudia at all and now of a digger going about a normal task makes me highly suspicious of your reason for being on WS. Sorry but just my opinion which I am entitled to deduce.....