UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #9

[MajorLang]

Were they arrested?

No, not for Claudia. One groped a female customer in his nightclub and was up in a sexual assault charge but that's it.

 

[Andyboy]

This is just a Google shot of excavations preparing the old scrap yard land for building student accommodation on. There are no signs that anyone has found anything and so your comments are a huge stretch of imagination.
You started your postings well with a great account of a breaking car. Your account of a football team hanger that has no relationship to Claudia at all and now of a digger going about a normal task makes me highly suspicious of your reason for being on WS. Sorry but just my opinion which I am entitled to deduce.....

Wouldn't be up to any skullduggery with the entrance doors wide open I would think

 

[HongKongPhooey]

No, not for Claudia. One groped a female customer in his nightclub and was up in a sexual assault charge but that's it.

Thats what I thought, thanks

 

[MajorLang]

Were they arrested?

No, not for Claudia. One groped a female customer in his nightclub and was up in a sexual assault charge but that's it.

I think she was uncovered July 2018 by a third-party. Innocent, maybe.
And I'm saying this due to an image taken by Google Street Maps.

It may have caused NH some stress (left country) he died months later.
This is just my opinion. This is murky.

No he owed Andrew Jamieson money that's why he died....Jamieson supported York town but now lives the high life abroad with his Thai bride-Neil had similar tastes as can be seen.

As I've said before, all the activity around Claudias night and morning could well have been drug related crime-Claudia could have been elsewhere-Acomb possibly.

 

[MajorLang]

Well there is one last THING to show... I can give you a link to a place and let you all deduce the scene for yourself. You decide (like Columbo) what was happening on (July 2018) in the Horwell Scrap Yard that was sold.

What did they uncover? Or were moving. (Roll your mouse) to ZOOM IN.
PS: Months after this (Nov 2018) NH died abroad.

LINK> خرائط ‪Google

Be it innocent or not... it needs checking out.‬‏‏
Disclaimer: Everyone is innocent until proven guilty in a Court of Law.

Tri-Lambda-Why is your Google link in Arabic????

 

[Joolz1975]

Not checked in here for ages but you guys have been busy!!

 

[Yozzer]

Tri-Lambda-Why is your Google link in Arabic????

It happens when you paste a google link for some reason....or does when I do it.

 

[Tri-Lambda delta]

This is just a Google shot of excavations preparing the old scrap yard land for building student accommodation on. There are no signs that anyone has found anything and so your comments are a huge stretch of imagination.
You started your postings well with a great account of a breaking car. Your account of a football team hanger that has no relationship to Claudia at all and now of a digger going about a normal task makes me highly suspicious of your reason for being on WS. Sorry but just my opinion which I am entitled to deduce.....

I actually now think that your reluctance (MajorLang) to STUDY the actual available FINDINGS (of things that are actually REAL, caught on camera) and not hearsay... are hindering this actual CASE.

(1)When there is a drunken sexual Modus Operandi on record in Court for GP April 2009 the month after the CL disappearance.
(2)Evidence in his car 'rare football shirt' that links him from the VUDU lounge to Heworth 18th/3/2009. And he would be approaching from his home in the correct direction from his home. [Unlike the person they arrested and whose house they dug up.]
(3)Evidence that he tried to purchase the uninvestigated land from the Horwell Bros.
(4)NH (one bro who sold the land) dies abroad same year the possible body is uncovered on land they sold.

>>>Car DNA is hindering this investigation. This DNA may NOT be the KILLERS. If it is NOT the killers DNA you have already interviewed the killer(s) and let them go because YOU have decided "THIS was the KILLER's DNA" and this ASSUMPTION is the "Mother of all f~~k-ups!". The DNA is NOT the Coup de grâce to this case's finale. >DNA was taken at a place that was not the crime scene. DUH ! that DNA has become A GET OUT OF JAIL FREE card ! The killer wont match it.

Evidence on camera of the uncovering of what looks like a body-bag at the Horwell site. Which you don't wish to look into... due to the pulling in of a high ranking person who bought the site.. is the Police Force's own undoing.

Look at the evidence. At one point you didn't even have any DNA.

WHY am I interested in this case?

I now feel MajorLang you and other 'Masonic connections' are putting an interfering finger-in-the-pie to undermine the search for the truth in this case. I'm calling you out. Ease off ME... I'm here to solve this.

And the REASON this all started is >I< think that the two vehicles parked outside the HORWELL SCRAP YARD (showing body) are the same two vehicles parked outside her house on the BUS FOOTAGE.

I think July 2018 they HEARD that a body had been found and they were down there like 'sh~t off a shovel'. On LAND they had already sold and had NO power over. NH may have fled abroad... dying Nov 2018 from stress only months later. (Just my 'hearsay' opinion)

You liked my initial car footage because it led to the NAG's HEAD... and possibly fed the narrative that you WISH to follow and are trying to tell. I'm just showing EVERYTHING that appears to be true (due to evidence) I'm NOT forcing a result. I'm going purely on what is unraveling by real evidence that is showing itself over time... which happens to be Google Street images taken 'after' the time of the 'crime' that involve(s) what the police have released and the locations I am able to view regarding such released data.

 

[Joolz1975]

I actually now think that your reluctance (MajorLang) to STUDY the actual available FINDINGS (of things that are actually REAL, caught on camera) and not hearsay... are hindering this actual CASE.

(1)When there is a drunken sexual Modus Operandi on record in Court for GP April 2009 the month after the CL disappearance.
(2)Evidence in his car 'rare football shirt' that links him from the VUDU lounge to Heworth 18th/3/2009. And he would be approaching from his home in the correct direction from his home. [Unlike the person they arrested and whose house they dug up.]
(3)Evidence that he tried to purchase the uninvestigated land from the Horwell Bros.
(4)NH (one bro who sold the land) dies abroad same year the possible body is uncovered on land they sold.

>>>Car DNA is hindering this investigation. This DNA may NOT be the KILLERS. If it is NOT the killers DNA you have already interviewed the killer(s) and let them go because YOU have decided "THIS was the KILLER's DNA" and this ASSUMPTION is the "Mother of all f~~k-ups!". The DNA is NOT the Coup de grâce to this case's finale. >DNA was taken at a place that was not the crime scene. DUH ! that DNA has become A GET OUT OF JAIL FREE card ! The killer wont match it.

Evidence on camera of the uncovering of what looks like a body-bag at the Horwell site. Which you don't wish to look into... due to the pulling in of a high ranking person who bought the site.. is the Police Force's own undoing.

Look at the evidence. At one point you didn't even have any DNA.

WHY am I interested in this case?

I now feel MajorLang you and other 'Masonic connections' are putting an interfering finger-in-the-pie to undermine the search for the truth in this case. I'm calling you out. Ease off ME... I'm here to solve this.

And the REASON this all started is >I< think that the two vehicles parked outside the HORWELL SCRAP YARD (showing body) are the same two vehicles parked outside her house on the BUS FOOTAGE.

I think July 2018 they HEARD that a body had been found and they were down there like 'sh~t off a shovel'. On LAND they had already sold and had NO power over. NH may have fled abroad... dying Nov 2018 from stress only months later. (Just my 'hearsay' opinion)

You liked my initial car footage because it led to the NAG's HEAD... and possibly fed the narrative that you WISH to follow and are trying to tell. I'm just showing EVERYTHING that appears to be true (due to evidence) I'm NOT forcing a result. I'm going purely on what is unraveling by real evidence that is showing itself over time... which happens to be Google Street images taken 'after' the time of the 'crime' that involve(s) what the police have released and the locations I am able to view regarding such released data.

Interested to hear all views, curious how much information has been passed on to the authorities.

Not doubting your talents or abilities but how sure are you that they dont already know all this and have discounted it?

 

[Vixey]

I actually now think that your reluctance (MajorLang) to STUDY the actual available FINDINGS (of things that are actually REAL, caught on camera) and not hearsay... are hindering this actual CASE.

(1)When there is a drunken sexual Modus Operandi on record in Court for GP April 2009 the month after the CL disappearance.
(2)Evidence in his car 'rare football shirt' that links him from the VUDU lounge to Heworth 18th/3/2009. And he would be approaching from his home in the correct direction from his home. [Unlike the person they arrested and whose house they dug up.]
(3)Evidence that he tried to purchase the uninvestigated land from the Horwell Bros.
(4)NH (one bro who sold the land) dies abroad same year the possible body is uncovered on land they sold.

>>>Car DNA is hindering this investigation. This DNA may NOT be the KILLERS. If it is NOT the killers DNA you have already interviewed the killer(s) and let them go because YOU have decided that THAT was the KILLER's DNA and that ASSUMPTION is the "Mother of all f~~k-ups!". The DNA is NOT the Coup de grâce to this case's finale. >DNA was taken at a place that was not the crime scene. DUH ! that DNA is had become A GET OUT OF JAIL FREE card ! The killer wont match it.

Evidence on camera of the uncovering of what looks like a body-bag at the Horwell site. Which you don't wish to look into... due to the pulling in of a high ranking person who bought the site.. is the Police Force's own undoing.

Look at the evidence. At one point you didn't even have any DNA.

WHY am I interested in this case?

I now feel MajorLang you and other 'Masonic connections' are putting an interfering finger-in-the-pie to undermine the search for the truth in this case. I'm calling you out. Ease off ME... I'm here to solve this.

And the REASON this all started is >I< think that the two vehicles parked outside the HORWELL SCRAP YARD (showing body) are the same two vehicles parked outside her house on the BUS FOOTAGE.

I think July 2018 they HEARD that a body had been found and they were down there like 'sh~t off a shovel'. On LAND they had already sold and had NO power over. NH may have fled abroad... dying Nov 2018 from stress only months later. (Just my 'hearsay' opinion)

You liked my initial car footage because it led to the NAG's HEAD... and possibly fed the narrative that you WISH to follow and are trying to tell. I'm just showing EVERYTHING that appears to be true (due to evidence) I'm NOT forcing a result. I'm going purely on what is unraveling by real evidence that is showing itself over time... which happens to be Google Street images taken 'after' the time of the 'crime' that involve(s) what the police have released and the locations I am able to view regarding such released data.

What body? Perhaps you will stick around so that we can explore your theory’s further. I however think claiming Masonic connections without any evidence to support this is wrong and should be removed. Where has it been said a body was found at the Horwell scrapyard, do you have a link?

 

[Tri-Lambda delta]

It's mentioned above Vixey

I'm out. Delete me. I'm gone.

 

[Thelastleg]

I actually now think that your reluctance (MajorLang) to STUDY the actual available FINDINGS (of things that are actually REAL, caught on camera) and not hearsay... are hindering this actual CASE.

(1)When there is a drunken sexual Modus Operandi on record in Court for GP April 2009 the month after the CL disappearance.
(2)Evidence in his car 'rare football shirt' that links him from the VUDU lounge to Heworth 18th/3/2009. And he would be approaching from his home in the correct direction from his home. [Unlike the person they arrested and whose house they dug up.]
(3)Evidence that he tried to purchase the uninvestigated land from the Horwell Bros.
(4)NH (one bro who sold the land) dies abroad same year the possible body is uncovered on land they sold.

>>>Car DNA is hindering this investigation. This DNA may NOT be the KILLERS. If it is NOT the killers DNA you have already interviewed the killer(s) and let them go because YOU have decided "THIS was the KILLER's DNA" and this ASSUMPTION is the "Mother of all f~~k-ups!". The DNA is NOT the Coup de grâce to this case's finale. >DNA was taken at a place that was not the crime scene. DUH ! that DNA has become A GET OUT OF JAIL FREE card ! The killer wont match it.

Evidence on camera of the uncovering of what looks like a body-bag at the Horwell site. Which you don't wish to look into... due to the pulling in of a high ranking person who bought the site.. is the Police Force's own undoing.

Look at the evidence. At one point you didn't even have any DNA.

WHY am I interested in this case?

I now feel MajorLang you and other 'Masonic connections' are putting an interfering finger-in-the-pie to undermine the search for the truth in this case. I'm calling you out. Ease off ME... I'm here to solve this.

And the REASON this all started is >I< think that the two vehicles parked outside the HORWELL SCRAP YARD (showing body) are the same two vehicles parked outside her house on the BUS FOOTAGE.

I think July 2018 they HEARD that a body had been found and they were down there like 'sh~t off a shovel'. On LAND they had already sold and had NO power over. NH may have fled abroad... dying Nov 2018 from stress only months later. (Just my 'hearsay' opinion)

You liked my initial car footage because it led to the NAG's HEAD... and possibly fed the narrative that you WISH to follow and are trying to tell. I'm just showing EVERYTHING that appears to be true (due to evidence) I'm NOT forcing a result. I'm going purely on what is unraveling by real evidence that is showing itself over time... which happens to be Google Street images taken 'after' the time of the 'crime' that involve(s) what the police have released and the locations I am able to view regarding such released data.

Wow, what a post. I'm going bshes to look at the photo. Are you saying that you can see a body bag? I never heard that a body had been found but then if it was a poor vagrant probably wouldn't even get a mention in the press. With regards to the jeep outside Claudia's House, was this not identified as a Ford Ranger. The jeep in your photo I thought was Mitzubishi.

 

[Vixey]

It's mentioned above Vixey

I'm out. Delete me. I'm gone.

I am new on here so not sure if this information is known.I shall look back as I have not seen information regarding a body and rather intrigued.I was only suggesting that without evidence a claim regarding Masonic connections should not be posted,unless you meant you believe there are such connections to the Claudia case? I will read above but better if you can help that you stay.

 

[Andyboy]

Wouldn't they have dug up the body before they left instead of hoping it wouldn't be found by the new owners who were going to dig it up for development

 

[keep-it-real]

It's mentioned above Vixey

I'm out. Delete me. I'm gone.

@Tri-Lambda delta ... Anybody who puts forward a theory on WS should be open to questions posed in relation to it. If youre going to throw your toys out the pram because people dont fall to their knees in praise of every word you say without question then perhaps this isnt a forum where you will feel comfortable.

Pull yourself together man lets have less of the dramatics and get on with solving this crime

 

[Andyboy]

Fred west's Garden, a mysterious musical interlude earlier, its better than the telly, and better value than my sky subsctipion

 

[Thelastleg]

@Tr-Lambda delta. I hope you are still around. I went back and looked at the google view. I see what you mean. But if I was going to bury a body, I would dig a hole deeper that that. When I was at a site inspection of my new office a few years ago, the water mains were wrapped in black plastic. I mentioned that it looked like a body bag. The builder told me that they do that to preserve water pipes. Now I'm wondering if this is true or was he disposing of someone.

 

[Andyboy]

Why Bury a body on your own property thus possibly incriminating yourself when you have the vast expanse of the Yorkshire moors on your doorstep, and then dig it up in daylight where anyone could see it

 

[MajorLang]

It happens when you paste a google link for some reason....or does when I do it.

Proxy blocker??

 

[MajorLang]

It's mentioned above Vixey

I'm out. Delete me. I'm gone.

Claire Hooton has left the room but has instead set up a fund to raise donations. But for who???

BTW. I have been quite scathing of Freemasonery here recently so I'm afraid Tri-Lambdas comments don't commute.

A football hanger in a car that is indistinguishable.
A "body bag" on waste land that only the poster can see.
All sad time wasting and let's hope Claire takes the Pope with her.