UK UK - Corrie McKeague, 23, Bury St Edmunds, 24 September 2016 #3

[Dcflag]

Alternatively, remember the item he dropped? Was it his phone and now damaged and even more peeved he's decided to lob it in the bin whilst checking it and having a pee?

Damaged but still working, he sent his brother a message inbetween the two cctv clips

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

Damaged but still working, he sent his brother a message inbetween the two cctv clips

The Find Corrie website FAQ says it was a friend, not his brother the picture was sent to.

 

[JamesKing]

And it was definitely Biffa? Was that from the police conference too? I'll see if I can find it as well..

No. They never mentioned the company.
I think "we" did that.
Although I don't think it was ever corrected on FB. Then again, neither has the landfill, so I'm being rather "hopeful" on that one !

 

[Dcflag]

The Find Corrie website FAQ says it was a friend, not his brother the picture was sent to.

I think it was on here I picked up the message being to his brother, perhaps it was crossed wires as I believe it was his brother who mentioned it in the conference?

 

[soundssuspicious]

You mean "we can categorically say, if he left on foot between the hours of 0300 and 0800 we absolutely would have seen him, however it is forensically not impossible that he did leave on foot"

If it's a struggle to actually clarify that point, then I don't think there is much hope for anything.

Tony said "if he left on foot we would absolutely have seen him, however it is forensically not impossible that he did not leave on foot"

I added the words "between the hours of 0300 and 0800" to highlight that CCTV had only been studied between those hours.

What I missed - and you rightly pointed out - is that Tony said "It's forensically NOT impossible that he did not leave on foot".

Tony is right - unless forensics studied the pavements and roads of course they couldn't FORENSICALLY determine whether Corrie had left on foot. And it's all too late now...his footprints and any evidence of DNA would long be gone now...unless there was blood, perhaps.

Whichmmeans the only hope left of determining Corrie leaving on foot would be by camera - and as it appears they've only been viewed up until 08:00 Saturday morning, who's to know he didn't leave later?

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

I think it was on here I picked up the message being to his brother, perhaps it was crossed wires as I believe it was his brother who mentioned it in the conference?

I *think* the confusion is that the the picture was of Corrie and his brother so that might be the source? All the earlier comments have gone now because only the latest posts have comments turned on so can't check.

The "landfill" was another thing that was eventually corrected by the family but that info is lost too I think. I remember a comment from either Tony or Nicola that the landfill was indeed the Mildenhall recycling centre.

 

[Dcflag]

I *think* the confusion is that the the picture was of Corrie and his brother so that might be the source? All the earlier comments have gone now because only the latest posts have comments turned on so can't check.

The "landfill" was another thing that was eventually corrected by the family but that info is lost too I think. I remember a comment from either Tony or Nicola that the landfill was indeed the Mildenhall recycling centre.

But if we're to believe this was apparently a general waste collection it wouldntfo to mildenhall?

Considering everyone is banging on about the lorry you'd think there would be more clarifications of the facts, what it collected and where it went.

 

[soundssuspicious]

I think it was on here I picked up the message being to his brother, perhaps it was crossed wires as I believe it was his brother who mentioned it in the conference?

Well, that's changed. Because I categorically remember seeing somewhere on numerous occasions, that Corrie sent a picture and text to his brother. I seem to remember Nicola saying that, too. And now that's changed to "Corrie sent it to a friend"....

The more that comes out the more this early hour text seems odd....some people would think the family are protecting Corrie and that this "photo/text" wasn't sent to his brother at all.

 

[JamesKing]

Tony said "if he left on foot we would absolutely have seen him, however it is forensically not impossible that he did not leave on foot"

I added the words "between the hours of 0300 and 0800" to highlight that CCTV had only been studied between those hours.

What I missed - and you rightly pointed out - is that Tony said "It's forensically NOT impossible that he did not leave on foot".

Tony is right - unless forensics studied the pavements and roads of course they couldn't FORENSICALLY determine whether Corrie had left on foot. And it's all too late now...his footprints and any evidence of DNA would long be gone now...unless there was blood, perhaps.

Whichmmeans the only hope left of determining Corrie leaving on foot would be by camera - and as it appears they've only been viewed up until 08:00 Saturday morning, who's to know he didn't leave later?

And/or when the cameras where on that sight (or at least one of them).

It a very "grey area" (pardon the pun). He could have walked out easily (in theory). I hope they have modelled those cameras.

If they have...and it done right.
And at least one of those cameras was always on that spot (09/34)
And if there is absolutely nothing moving
Mo car. No person. Nothing at all.
Then he departed after 0800.

But I'm just not sure we're getting "everything" to be honest.

P.S. Don't forget it's market day. And a shopping day. No idea what usage that area gets from 0800 onward.

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

But if we're to believe this was apparently a general waste collection it wouldntfo to mildenhall?

Considering everyone is banging on about the lorry you'd think there would be more clarifications of the facts, what it collected and where it went.

We were told it was cardboard/paper and weighed 15kg then 11kg. That would be quite a lot of flattened cardboard and paper. 11kg of general waste would be a pretty empty bin depending on the nature of the waste and wouldn't be worth emptying or paying for it to be emptied, IMO.

 

[Dcflag]

And/or when the cameras where on that sight (or at least one of them).

It a very "grey area" (pardon the pun). He could have walked out easily (in theory). I hope they have modelled those cameras.

If they have...and it done right.
And at least one of those cameras was always on that spot (09/34)
And if there is absolutely nothing moving
Mo car. No person. Nothing at all.
Then he departed after 0800.

But I'm just not sure we're getting "everything" to be honest.

P.S. Don't forget it's market day. And a shopping day. No idea what usage that area gets from 0800 onward.

In one of tonys updates it says this:

From the area Corrie was last seen, there is more than one vehicle of interest. One of which is the Bin Lorry, which has already been seized and forensically investigated.
Other vehicles remain unaccounted for. We are unable to share the CCTV. Please refer to appeal about vehicles which can be found on this website, at the top of Find Corrie Mckeague Homepage or own our Help Find Corrie McKeague Facebook Group.

There's no way nothing moved on those cameras (in my opinion)

 

[MidsummersDay]

I can see that to a point, but that doesn't explain why he jogged to the end of the walkway, abruptly turned left, stopped, looked all around in confusion as though searching for someone, and then SLOWLY headed towards the bin area. A man needing a pee doesn't do that.

He probably jogged there thinking he was going to miss his suggested lift (which I am absolutely in favour of) and realising there were no headlights from his said lift decided to relieve himself whilst considering his next move?

 

[MelmothTheLost]

We were told it was cardboard/paper and weighed 15kg then 11kg. That would be quite a lot of flattened cardboard and paper.

Agreed. Look which businesses back onto that bin area and were therefore presumably using the bins.

Thorntons and Superdrug would both be receiving large quantities of stock, almost certainly packed in cardboard boxes. They would have a lot of cardboard to send for recycling.

Carphone Warehouse and Samuels less so.

I'm guessing that Greggs receive uncooked and part-baked food from a central production centre and then finish it off in the shop. Theirs may come in cardboard trays but equally might arrive in reusable plastic trays.

 

[MidsummersDay]

Well, that's changed. Because I categorically remember seeing somewhere on numerous occasions, that Corrie sent a picture and text to his brother. I seem to remember Nicola saying that, too. And now that's changed to "Corrie sent it to a friend"....

The more that comes out the more this early hour text seems odd....some people would think the family are protecting Corrie and that this "photo/text" wasn't sent to his brother at all.

If I remember rightly Corrie sent a photo image of himself and a friend to his brother. His brother stated in a TVs press conference that he'd received it.
I'm of the speculative opinion that it was a cover story as the family already had Corrie's phone details and it was a Tinder photo sent by mistake to his brother. MOO.

 

[MidsummersDay]

The Find Corrie website FAQ says it was a friend, not his brother the picture was sent to.

In that case his brother Darroch should be charged with publicly perverting the course of justice in my opinion. I specifically remember him saying it. I can see him in my head now saying it. The whole of my theorisations have hinged on verbal evidence (which I believe is admissible in court?) being factual.

 

[Holly&Ivy]

I'm thinking one of two things now 1) the person or persons responsible did work late and maybe even owned a pub or club in BSE. Lot of people in that area of work would have links to drugs world. It was arranged that he would meet them at 3.30am after they locked up. 2) It is a person or persons from one of the bases

 

[Dcflag]

In that case his brother Darroch should be charged with publicly perverting the course of justice in my opinion. I specifically remember him saying it. I can see him in my head now saying it. The whole of my theorisations have hinged on verbal evidence (which I believe is admissible in court?) being factual.

It says it was sent to a friend as a continuation of an earlier conversation

 

[Holly&Ivy]

Interesting too that the name of the fb page was originally BRING CORRIE HOME and was changed to FIND CORRIE suggesting that as we all believe the family also believe he is no.longer alive

 

[JamesKing]

In one of tonys updates it says this:

From the area Corrie was last seen, there is more than one vehicle of interest. One of which is the Bin Lorry, which has already been seized and forensically investigated.
Other vehicles remain unaccounted for. We are unable to share the CCTV. Please refer to appeal about vehicles which can be found on this website, at the top of Find Corrie Mckeague Homepage or own our Help Find Corrie McKeague Facebook Group.

There's no way nothing moved on those cameras (in my opinion)

I agree.

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

In that case his brother Darroch should be charged with publicly perverting the course of justice in my opinion. I specifically remember him saying it. I can see him in my head now saying it. The whole of my theorisations have hinged on verbal evidence (which I believe is admissible in court?) being factual.

Well that is jumping quite far ahead! (did he state it on a video? Have a link?) I think most of these contradictions are coming about because, as others have said, the family are trying to protect his image and/or
are trying to avoid embarrassment?

I can't get past why the Police still remain silent about addressing the public for what is still officially a missing person case so nothing right now surprises me.