UK UK - Corrie McKeague, 23, Bury St Edmunds, 24 September 2016 #6

[JamesKing]

I have by no means lead a wild life but I agree with you, Corrie's behaviours don't stike me as at all unusual or risky, Hé's a young man with a good job, no dependants maybe some money left over at the end of each month sadly though they probably have lead to whatever has happened to him.

But a "wild life" isn't 2 hours sat in a doorway in your best clobber.

No drink. No girl. Just a kebab stain and a need for a wee.
Hardly "wild" is it.

 

[markymint]

I suppose it could! They're pretty much an obscure dark blob... so could be anything I guess

Still. I think I was wrong about a helmet, it really probably isn't. The thing that makes it look like a helmet or head with a shine, is actually something else, cos it's visible in 2 of the shots, so it's on the window, lens, or street, and isn't a "shining" part of the figure.

And here's what I see in the slender figure pic:

To me it looks a lot like someone stood around waiting, not walking past.

 

[Shiressleuth]

James, yes I remember those days and the party 7 can to get 10 of u in.

 

[MidsummersDay]

Still confusing.

So far CCTV has been viewed up until 12 on Sat afternoon.

Only 4 vehicles go in the area up to 0800 hours.

That's if you put what is being said by Nicola together.

Surely it should read "no vehicles go into the area up to 12 noon"
If the footage has been viewed till then, then people and cars are seen.

I can only assume that cars entering after 0800 are not suspected in anyway as being involved.

So if it is believed Corrie departed in a car, yet no one is looking at cars "past 0800", then why bother looking for people ?

Does this go back to "the phone in the bin" ?
As in, does someone go back to (try to) retrieve it in the morning.

I don't think anyone has gone back to retrieve the phone as we're led to believe that it left BSE at approximately 0430 and headed towards BM at 0458 were it died at 0800. :/

 

[MissTerious]

Why hang around outside for two hours and sleep in a doorway if there's a party you are invited to going on? Since now Nicola has made the latest statement. the accident walking home can pretty much be ruled out as he left in a vehicle. It seems to be that the family and investigating police might be at odds with each other and what ever investigation is going on, the family may not be privy to it all, and although they say that they are happy with the skill level of the investigative team they are frustrated by lack of resources.

This makes me wonder what the current thinking might be if police are maybe not working with the family on every aspect and despite the level of public support, there is very little national media coverage or updates. Could it be that police do not want this case in the media spotlight, they have a good idea of what has happened but do not want it jeopardised by media speculation? Was the hub more about finding witnesses to whatever occurred rather than suspects? Officially, it seems that it is only Nicola who suggests that 4 minute man is of the utmost interest. People in the hub reported that the police didn't even point this man out to them.

AWOL - waiting for a weakness or error in hiding to lead them to where he has been hiding out.
Terrorism - being held by a terrorist group to be revealed at a later date. I find it odd for this to be the case when Corrie was only there by chance unless the events of the evening had been orchestrated.
Opportune abduction/attack - someone just happened to be in the area but if you were bundling a person into a car would you just pause and put their phone in the bin and wouldn't the force required without spilling blood at the scene leave some signs of a struggle, bins knocked about or something falling out of his pockets etc.

I'm probably rambling now but I just find it so odd that a case so followed by the public can be so quiet officially.

 

[MidsummersDay]

if he did go with Scenario 3 if that person picked Corrie up willingly then why wouldn't they come forward even if they dropped him somewhere else and they had nothing to hide ? Could they have picked him up willingly gone to a party things turned sour and few people are keeping tight lipped.

Are there any taxis legally operating in BSE with foreign drivers with limited grasp of English? Or does BSE have a problem with foreigners offering lifts to make money on the side posing as taxis per chance?

 

[MidsummersDay]

A moped would also travel at a similar speed to a larger vehicle, a bin lorry for example. The rider would also be identifiable by a passer-by; whereas the same can't be said for the driver of a car.

.....additionally (depending on it's power plant bhp), it COULD be stuck behind it for the majority of the way to BM with limited power to overtake. Probably only a motorcyclist would understand my thought process with this one.

 

[MidsummersDay]

I think the forum is unanimous practically in the police and Uncle Tony's decision that Corrie left in a vehicle. We've skinned this rabbit on many an occasion and from many angles.
Two things that stick out for me beside the present CCTV debate and what type of vehicle he left in. Cast your mind back to him in the doorway of Hughes. Stood around for a couple of hours in the same spot is doable for infantry type. The military lot on here will appreciate my sentiments. But why stand if you can crouch. Why crouch if you can sit. Why sit if you can lay. Nothing so far suggests to me that Corrie lay down and grabbed a couple of hours kip. He had White trousers and a pink shirt. Id be trying to keep them as clean as possible if I was going to a party or was meeting a female meeting someone I wanted to impress. The last thing I'd want is to rock up somewhere looking like Bilbo Baggins.
My conclusions therefore are either he has decided to end his night of frivolities at 0330 (0324) OR he absolutely doesn't give a rats asre about his appearance and will rock up to anything. Looking at his car, his conscience with the chip fork/sachet litter, his haircut, deportment and demeanour, I would say he'd decided to call it a night and get a lift to a bed and shower when he woke up.

Putting that to one side for the moment. If this is the case then he would probably want a fresh set of clothes when he'd woke up and most definately have his ID on him in his wallet to get onto a neighbouring base never mind to return to his own. Granted the guards at his pwn base most likely would recognise him to eleviate the lack of ID problem. We know that his clothes at his own base wern't touched as access was granted to his accom to rescue the puppy. So he MUST have had no issues with getting into a car with anyone beit taxi (illegal or otherwise), lift or other...that had been prearranged.

A prearanged taxi would more than likely collect from a taxi rank. im not familiar with the legalities of Hackney laws or the local area for ad hoc collections but the unless youre handicapped or disabled in someway, the bottom of Shortbrackland doesnt seem very legal to collect when the taxi rank at Buttermarket is 50 yards away.

This leaves me to think either a private collection OR an illegal taxi. If its an illegal taxi ill open that dis ussion up to the locals of BSE as they would be more aware of the problem than any of us.

If its a private collection, Corrie MUST have made contact prior to 0100 and be known to him. There MUST have been a professional or social relationship no matter how smal between him and the driver. That suggests a dialogue that has opened up be it text, voice, or verbal. Its still a contact to 'prearrange'. I personally cant believe that the police do not have the powers to interrogate the numbers he dialled on his phone that night before 0324 (0100).

I'm thinking a smoke screen by the family (Uncle Tony) and some serious background work being done by the SP. Ask me again in an hour and i'll probably change my mind! :/

 

[Shiressleuth]

Back in thread 5 I listed one of the lurkers as long black coat man an found where it was mentioned at last. It was looloo 77 , and dcflag at10.41 and simone44 at 10.47 all number 67 in that thread.

 

[Shiressleuth]

Back in thread 5 I listed one of the lurkers as long black coat man an found where it was mentioned at last. It was looloo 77 , and dcflag at10.41 and simone44 at 10.47 all number 67 in that thread.

something seen was not allowed to be mentioned in the pod anyone know what that was?

 

[JamesKing]

3 cars in Short Brackland that came (?) and left Bury that night. And the Silver car left also.

That's 4 cars that left then.

All the cctv shown in the pod was from AFTER Corrie entered it.
So, we know that the Silver car had left.
And we know the Silver car was there for the 2 hours Corrie was.

Corrie would only be in one of them. One of them that left Short Brackland.

Any chance the four cars are linked ?

 

[JerricaBenton]

3 cars in Short Brackland that came (?) and left Bury that night. And the Silver car left also.

That's 4 cars that left then.

All the cctv shown in the pod was from AFTER Corrie entered it.
So, we know that the Silver car had left.
And we know the Silver car was there for the 2 hours Corrie was.

Corrie would only be in one of them. One of them that left Short Brackland.

Any chance the four cars are linked ?

I thought it was only 4 vehicles (not necessarily cars) which included the bin lorry?

 

[bbyblueeyez]

i just look for Nicola and Tonys updates comments I haven't commented on there but my daughter has..... Back to the cars didn't someone put a pic up from google air( which is an old pic) and the same silver car was on it or was that another one ? I think the cars would be connected for all travelling down to same sort of venue I don't think they would be connected for a abduction ....<modsnip>

 

[Hexenb]

Are there any taxis legally operating in BSE with foreign drivers with limited grasp of English? Or does BSE have a problem with foreigners offering lifts to make money on the side posing as taxis per chance?

A few months ago a few friends and I went out for a evening our cab picked us up and drove us to town as we were about to pull over a soldier (he was in uniform) was about to cross the road we were turning into, my friend said ooh watch the soldier the taxi driver said No lets run him over! and was really nasty with his tone we were all gobsmacked my friend said hey that's out of order he then apologised and said sorry, we still chat about it now are our military hated that much

 

[bbyblueeyez]

I somethings must drive the family potty especially the tags but draw comfort out of it the same its good have the publics backing she can fall on it whenever she feel she needs to and the people want to help

 

[bbyblueeyez]

here in hull we few bogus Taxi drivers and I'm not just saying people who want to make a few bucks .... Also i notice a lot of sons friends will put "anyone taxiing tonight" i worry sick about it

 

[JamesKing]

I thought it was only 4 vehicles (not necessarily cars) which included the bin lorry?

3 Cars in SB + Bin Lorry in SB + Silver car = 4 cars

How many fingers have you got ? 8 and 2 thumbs ! Magic !

Nicola said they were struggling to identify the silver car.
Then there was a deluge of suggestions to what make and model it could possibly be

Much later on Tony said forget the Silver car.

Now we see CCTV that makes it impossible for it not to have been seen by Cam09.

But Silver car was there....and by 3.25 it had gone !

Are the 4 cars linked (3 + 1).

 

[calo44]

If we go on the theory that it was a pre-arranged pickup, would it be safe to say that it was a taxi, a web hookup or a friend? Friend is prob ruled out as most of his buddies were out that night themselves and it sounds like he never did meet up with them. So - taxi? Or web hookup?

Earlier, we talked about Grindr and Tinder and how the info in those apps is impossible to trace without the phone itself. Would anyone know - if you logged into your account on these type of apps from a different device, does it show your history? Like, who you've talked to and maybe the message stream that went back and forth?

It sounds like it'd be a way to see if he did communicate through an app? It's only been said that he sent a photo to a "friend" at 3:08 - he could have sent the person the photo of he and Darroch so they'd recognize him when they pull up in the horseshoe area? (Like: Hey, can you send a recent photo so I really know it's you?)

Taxi seems like it'd be easy to trace (do you have uber and lyft there in the UK? - an app where anyone can use their own car as a taxi service thru the app). Could he have used something like that to get him back to base?

 

[JerricaBenton]

3 Cars in SB + Bin Lorry in SB + Silver car = 4 cars

How many fingers have you got ? 8 and 2 thumbs ! Magic !

Nicola said they were struggling to identify the silver car.
Then there was a deluge of suggestions to what make and model it could possibly be

Much later on Tony said forget the Silver car.

Now we see CCTV that makes it impossible for it not to have been seen by Cam09.

But Silver car was there....and by 3.25 it had gone !

Are the 4 cars linked (3 + 1).

I thought the silver car was included in the 4 vehicles Tony mentions - is this not correct then? Is this clarified on the Find Corrie website?

 

[Shiressleuth]

3 Cars in SB + Bin Lorry in SB + Silver car = 4 cars

How many fingers have you got ? 8 and 2 thumbs ! Magic !

Nicola said they were struggling to identify the silver car.
Then there was a deluge of suggestions to what make and model it could possibly be

Much later on Tony said forget the Silver car.

Now we see CCTV that makes it impossible for it not to have been seen by Cam09.

But Silver car was there....and by 3.25 it had gone !

Are the 4 cars linked (3 + 1).

yeah but fingers, thumbs and toes are also digits. It is a silver car but the others are vehicles sothey could be a van bike lorry coach bus etc. Uncle t said vehicles not cars didn't he? Also cctv sees corrie leave doorway so would know exactly when silver car left too.