GUILTY Uk - Emile Cilliers Accused Of Tampering W/ Wife's Parachute, Wiltshire, 5 April 2015

[Alyce]

Here's today's full listing

Winchester 2 T20160267
emile stolz cilliers
Details: Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 13 Continues - 09:33
Trial (Part Heard) - No Event - 10:00
Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 14 Sworn - 10:16
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 11:20 - 11:11
Trial (Part Heard) - Resume - 11:19
Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 14 Continues - 11:24
Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 14 Continues - 12:04
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 12:45 - 12:37
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 14:00 - 13:02
Trial (Part Heard) - Resume - 14:02
Trial (Part Heard) - Legal Submissions - 15:31
Trial (Part Heard) - Court Closed - 15:45


http://www.thelawpages.com/court-hearings-lists/Winchester-Crown-Court.php

 

[Alyce]

And back as usual on Monday

The Crown Court

at Winchester
Daily List for Monday 30 April 2018 at THE LAW COURTS,WINCHESTER


Court 2 - sitting at 10:00 am

THE HONOURABLE MR JUSTICE SWEENEY
Trial (Part Heard)
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Order made under S45 Youth Justice & Criminal Evidence Act 1999


https://www.courtserve.net/courtlis...p?courtlist=winch_T180430.01.htm&type=crlists

 

[Tortoise]

Thanks Alyce.

 

[Moll]

Thanks, Alyce and Tortoise, for clarifying this odd situation as far as possible. As we did get reports of Mr Bayada's evidence, I suppose we still might get some reports later, before the final speeches.

 

[Tortoise]

I hope so Moll.

 

[Tortoise]

I've just been over the first trial records to get some timings

Week 1 (3 days) - Mr Bayada 2 days
Week 2 - Mr Bayada 2 days, site visit 1 day, 9 other witnesses
Week 3 - 8 witnesses, toilet video watched, judge instructed jury that slinks were deliberately removed, they were not missing or did not come off accidentally.
Week 4 - text messages, gas fitting and VC on stand for 3 days giving evidence.
Week 5 - VC another 3 days (x-exam and re-exam), EC police interview 1 day. DEFENCE opens and EC gives evidence 1 day.
Week 6 - EC x-exam 2 days. Pros and Defence closing speeches 1 day each.
Week 7 - Judge's summing up 2 days. Jury deliberates 2 days (1 day juror unwell)
Week 8 - Jury deliberates all week, majority ruling 10-2 given on Tues, 2 jurors leave with stress on Thurs and majority ruling given 9-1, Jury discharged on Friday.

Yesterday was the end of week 3 in the re-trial. Just keeping tabs, since nothing is being reported.

 

[Moll]

Thanks, Tortoise. So by the end of Week 3 in the first trial they had heard 18 witnesses, and VC was soon to give evidence in the next two weeks over a period of six days altogether. This time they have heard 14 witnesses.

 

[Moll]

Courtserve shows Court 2 sitting at 10am, same restrictions as before. It shows up below this time but enormous, sorry! There are no further details on the Winchester Crown Court site, except that the case is named as Emile Stolz Cilliers.

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[Alyce]

Law Pages finally have something up - but more of the same really - up to #15 witness.

editing now that I have re read Tortoise post above.

19 Prosecution witnesses last time, including VC - so we might get to her by the end of this week

 

[Alyce]

Bit more info from today - unless they have got their figures wrong, then it looks as though Witness 15 has been recalled


Winchester 2
T20160267
emile stolz cilliers

Details: Trial (Part Heard) - Resume - 10:30
Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 15 Continues - 10:36
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 11:50 - 11:36
Trial (Part Heard) - Resume - 11:49
Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 16 Sworn - 11:55
Trial (Part Heard) - Legal Submissions - 13:02
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 14:05 - 13:02
Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 15 Sworn - 14:10


http://www.thelawpages.com/court-hearings-lists/Winchester-Crown-Court.php

 

[Moll]

This is a very boring case second time round, isn't it? Worse than one of those TV dramas all in the dark with everybody mumbling.

 

[Tortoise]

At least the judge only has to tweak his summing up notes from the first trial, so that might lead to an earlier conclusion.

 

[Moll]

I've just found his youtube account. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9a-VXzfmtMJETLmxZ1O4kg

How weird that he's put all these four inconsequential clips up since the trial began.

 

[Moll]

Usual restrictions today.

Details:

Trial (Part Heard) - Resume - 10:00 Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 17 Sworn - 10:22

 

[Moll]

This makes interesting reading, in the light of the continuing ban on reporting this case:
https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/reporting-restrictions-guide-may-2016-2.pdf

e.g. s.4
Where the court is satisfied that a reporting restriction pursues a legitimate aim and is truly necessary,it must consider carefully the terms of any order. The principle of proportionality requires that anyorder must be narrowly tailored to the specific objective the court has in mind and must go nofurther than is necessary to achieve that objective. Over-broad orders are liable to be set aside.

 

[Alyce]

Looks like VC is next up - from Twitter



Heart South News
‏ @HeartSouthNews
4h4 hours ago

A woman's due to give evidence in the trial of her husband Emile Cilliers, who denies trying to murder her by tampering with her parachute in Wiltshire in 2015

 

[Legally Bland]

We may have live reporting:
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13:12
Sergeant's wife wanted to 'paint him in a bad picture', court hears
The wife of an Army sergeant who is accused of twice trying to kill her today said she was not 'completely' telling the truth and wanted to 'paint him in a bad picture' during police interviews.


Victoria Cilliers, a physiotherapist and former Army officer, claimed she had 'elaborated' and was 'angry' when she was interviewed after falling 4,000ft when her parachute failed to open.


It is alleged Emile Cilliers, of the Royal Army Physical Training Corps, tangled his wife's main parachute and removed two vital links from her reserve canopy while in a toilet cubicle, causing both to fail on April 5, 2015.






Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-truth-police-interview.html#ixzz5EFffMAsa
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[Moll]

Here too:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-43962653

So VC still says EC took less than 5 minutes in the loo.

 

[Legally Bland]

13:28
Cilliers 'damaged gas fitting to cause explosion', prosecution says
Prosecutors allege just a week before, Cilliers had damaged a gas fitting at the home he shared with his wife, now 42, in Amesbury, Wilts, in a bid to cause an explosion.

South African Cilliers, who was having affairs with two women and was in contact with prostitutes, had allegedly racked up debts of around £22,000 at the time. It is claimed he thought he would receive a £120,000 life insurance payout if Mrs Cilliers had a 'fatal accident'.

In fact, prosecutor Michael Bowes QC said the insurance money would go to his wife's estate if she was to die, but Cilliers was not aware of this.


13:36
Prosecution says wife changed her story
Giving evidence today at Winchester Crown Court, Hampshire, Mrs Cilliers said she was angry when police interviewed her after the horrifying accident.

When asked today whether she was concerned about the amount of time Cilliers had spent in the toilet with the parachute, she said she was not.

But prosecutor Michael Bowes QC said that was not what she had told police during her police interviews.


13:40
Victoria Cilliers says she was 'not telling the truth' during police interview
When Mr Bowes QC asked Victoria Cilliers whether she had told the police the truth, she said: 'I was not telling the truth.

'I am not saying I lied completely. I was angry and I elaborated throughout the statement to paint Emile in a bad picture.

'I know what I said in my police statement and I had a reason and a motive for doing that.'


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[Legally Bland]

13:45
Army sergeant's wife left note in her will instructing estate should go to her children - not her husband
It was also heard that Mrs Cilliers had left a note with her will, saying Cilliers 'poorly manages money' and instructing that her estate go to their children in the event of her death.


Reading the letter, Mr Bowes QC said: 'Dear executors, in the event of my death I would like to leave my estate to my children.


'By his own admission, Emile poorly manages money and I am not confident [the money I leave] would be used for the benefit of the children. I do hope, Emile, that you understand my reasoning. I love you and you are an amazing father.'


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