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Until now, I thought that Giuffre and Andrew met long before she was able to escape Epstein's alleged coercive control. I am surprised that, at the same time that Giuffre claims to be acting without free will, she was recruiting children for Epstein as part of a paid pyramid scheme. Eighteen months later, while on a paid study-vacation in Thailand, she parted ways with Epstein by simply telling him that she was moving on. His only response was to wish her a good life.

For some reason, I thought the events of 18 months occurred over several years - in part because documentation about coercive control and trafficking suggests that leaving those associations is extremely difficult.
Respectfully, 18 months is ~1 & 1/2 years. And I wonder if perhaps the now deceased victim VG might have experienced something akin to ‘Stockholm Syndrome’ in her time there. MOO
 
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These emails are damning though none of these parties have been convicted aside from GM. Eerie that the author starts his email off “I think you should let him “hang himself”


“WASHINGTON — Pedophile Jeffrey Epstein ended his friendship with Bill Clinton because he believed the former president was a liar, according to new emails the disgraced financier’s estate handed over to Congress on Wednesday.

The emails obtained by the House Oversight Committee show that Kathryn Ruemmler, a former White House counsel to President Barack Obama, had a chummy relationship with Epstein — and the two frequently discussed politics in the lead-up to the 2016 election.

In a Jan. 23, 2016, email, Epstein revealed that he broke off contact with Slick Willy after “he swore, with whole-hearted conviction to me that he had done something, he had forgotten that he also swore the exact opposite to me only weeks before.”

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Perhaps Charles knew in advance that this was going to get worse and pulled the plug on AM.


“A US congressman has accused Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor of “hiding” from a government committee seeking to question him over an investigation into Jeffrey Epstein.

Suhas Subramanyam, one of the Democrat members of the House Oversight Committee, also warned the former prince that the panel he sits on will “continue to pursue” the matter.

The committee wrote to Mountbatten-Windsor earlier in November, requesting he sit for a “transcribed interview” in connection with his “long-standing friendship” with paedophile financier Jeffrey Epstein.

The letter, signed by 16 members of Congress, said the committee had identified “financial records containing notations such as ‘massage for Andrew’ that raise serious questions”.

It has requested that he responds by this Thursday, 20 November.

Subramanyam told The Guardian that the former duke “has been hiding from us, and I think he will continue to try to hide from people doing meaningful investigations of this matter”.

“It seems like every time we find more evidence, [former] prince Andrew seems to be in the documents,” he added.

“And so I think if he is hoping that the story will just go away by ignoring us and being silent, he will be sorely disappointed, as we continue to pursue this over the next year and beyond.”


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I don’t believe Andrew MW is obliged to respond to anything/anyone in America.

I could be wrong but I’d like these same people to answer a question.

Why are y’all not going after the wealthy Americans named in flight logs etc?

There are plenty of Americans to choose from.
 
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I don’t believe Andrew MW is obliged to respond to anything/anyone in America.

I could be wrong but I’d like these same people to answer a question.

Why are y’all not going after the wealthy Americans named in flight logs etc?

There are plenty of Americans to choose from.

Same here. They have emails with some of the parties identity’s. So they do have information that they can investigate. Maybe they are privately having conversations for now? I don’t know what it is.
 
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Poor horse.
 
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Poor horse.

Right?! He has had enough of that scoundrel and no longer wants to carry him around.

Another US official has been implicated. I don’t have time to look for it at the moment.
 
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Get used to seeing Andrew on horseback or golfing.

His lifestyle isn’t going to change much, he will be living in the lap of luxury but in a smaller mansion, on a vast estate in Norfolk.

He will still have servants as he is unable to fend for himself, same as all ‘senior’ royals.

The family just wants him out of sight.

The King has three valets to dress him and keep him in clean socks.

As well as the guy who draws his bath and puts his toothpaste onto the brush for him.

Wish I could find the video of Harry ‘all tied up’ while putting on a top.

Took two men to get him disentangled. SMH
 
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Get used to seeing Andrew on horseback or golfing.

His lifestyle isn’t going to change much, he will be living in the lap of luxury but in a smaller mansion, on a vast estate in Norfolk.

He will still have servants as he is unable to fend for himself, same as all ‘senior’ royals.

The family just wants him out of sight.

The King has three valets to dress him and keep him in clean socks.

As well as the guy who draws his bath and puts his toothpaste onto the brush for him.

Wish I could find the video of Harry ‘all tied up’ while putting on a top.

Took two men to get him disentangled. SMH
I'd be embarrassed for people to know that about me!
 
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IIRC, Andrew wasn't so keen on horse-riding once. Some years ago he was given a position as the something-or-other of a horsey something-or-other, and I remember him then riding more to get back into practice. Remember, you heard it here first, in all its glorious detail! So he probably rides a lot these days just to fill in his day.
 
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I guess he prefers horse riding to walking around the estate.

He doesn’t really look like a guy who goes for long walks, his choice of course.

One can only watch so many movies on the telly. 😉
 
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When he played golf a lot he would have done more walking - unless he played trump-style, in a golf cart most of the time.
 
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"Sarah Ferguson's new children's book
'will be PULPED'
after former Duchess was stripped of her title alongside shamed ex-husband Andrew.


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Publishing sources said
that 10,000 copies of 'Flora and Fern: Kindness Along The Way'
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I took a Quick Look at Fergies Instagram yesterday.
All comments on her posts are naturally switched off but she comes across as BEYOND tedious and annoying.
Can’t imagine having to live with her to be honest.
 
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