GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #1

[BatFace]

Does anybody else find themselves irritated at the persistent descriptions of Stewart in the press as a "computer expert"? I've seen next to no evidence of this. "Unemployed hobbyist and long-term malingerer" seems nearer the mark.

 

[Interested Bystander]

To be blunt - gastro health issues can sometimes result in diarrhea and fecal incontinence.

I'd be throwing them out too!

I think he said the duvet was bloodstained from his surgery but I have friends who would never think of keeping/washing a duvet with blood or any sort of staining. They would be straight down to the tip and new ones bought. They are so cheap now unless they are made from down.

 

[Florrie]

Does anybody else find themselves irritated at the persistent descriptions of Stewart in the press as a "computer expert"? I've seen next to no evidence of this. "Unemployed hobbyist and long-term malingerer" seems nearer the mark.

His website has been linked to further back, seems very amateurish.


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[hunkerdown]

Yes, I'm aware of the circumstances, but I still think it's a horrible title. I don't know what a "good" bikini is, or if it would make any difference if she was in a "bad" bikini. I dunno, it just sounds sort of frivolous and trivial.

Helen had a unique and humorous writing style and this title fitted with that - if you read the book it can one minute have you laughing, the next in tears - without context it may seem like a flippant title, but it was actually so very her.

 

[mrazda71]

Gorgeous grey haired widower?

Yes, although I'm not discounting that the one he took to the dump may have been used in the murder itself.

 

[ZaZara]

Been lurking here watching this trial with great interest. As a result of this I found this forum and been reading through everything here over the past week.
The prosecution really need to get answers from the police about the reason why there was such a difficulty in removing the lid of the cesspit. This is to me the biggest hole in the prosecution's case so far. If it were just a health and safety issue then this needs to be clarified, as presented so far it seems that it was impossible for one person to move hence supporting IS's claim that Nick and Joe did it.

IMHO it is highly likely that IS also prepared this part beforehand, as part of his planning the entire 'disappearance'. Possibly he managed to put some straps underneath the lid, cover the ends with the grey slate for the time being and use them for leverage. Like with a moving harness or cradle.
Then after he killed Helen (slender woman) and Boris (small dog), possibly in the house, he'd move them in the wheelie bin through the side door into the garage, open the lid of the cesspit without problems, remove the straps when he put the lid back again and be done and back to the coffee machine in under 15 minutes.

No special forces needed, only evil ones.

 

[Joely 123]

In Helen's book she seemed to be describing 'life changing moments' that we use in literature. She talks of shifting from the young woman of the past into her sports car towards the big machine which gave her protection and some testosterone within that which possibly belong to the 1980's. It is a right of passage.
I know - one shifts from first driver, to passenger seat and then back seat within a lifetime.
I also know that with Helen having hormonal shift according to her menopausal age, it does deny the power one felt before. It makes one uncertain, sometimes, in being able to make a decision - even over a pair of shoes.

 

[BatFace]

His website has been linked to further back, seems very amateurish.


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Yes, I saw that. It didn't look like the work of a professional.

 

[jiminy]

I'm not entirely caught up so apologies if someone has already mentioned but Helen's other properties all seemed to be quite modest for her means. I wonder if buying that big house was driven by IS? I also felt like (purely MOO) he was the one pushing for the conservatory rebuild and she put it off for financial reasons, much to his annoyance.

Am I imagining that he was the one that got her the Jeep? (With her money obviously.)

ETA: I see others are questioning the Jeep too. I'll refrain from posting til I'm fully caught up in future!

 

[sleepyhead25]

Been following the case since the beginning but am yet to post.

I wonder if the Zopiclone in Helen's system affected her ability to drive and therefore her confidence driving? Especially if IS had been drugging Helen in the morning - presumably this would be the worst time for the medication to be given as it causes drowsiness - this would have been awful for Helen trying to go about her daily business, trying to complete errands etc.

As well as being tired she may have also been suffering other common side affects of the medication - brief internet search picks up a few that would making driving a car and making your way around difficult - Lack of Co-ordination, drowsiness, confusion, amnesia.

I hope Helen and Boris get justice.

 

[Alyce]

I'm not entirely caught up so apologies if someone has already mentioned but Helen's other properties all seemed to be quite modest for her means. I wonder if buying that big house was driven by IS? I also felt like (purely MOO) he was the one pushing for the conservatory rebuild and she put it off for financial reasons, much to his annoyance.

Am I imagining that he was the one that got her the Jeep? (With her money obviously.)

ETA: I see others are questioning the Jeep too. I'll refrain from posting til I'm fully caught up in future!

Her London home seemed fairly substantial........the cottage was just a holiday home so probably sufficient for short term breaks...and the Gateshead property was an investment property far as I know.

Hartwell Lodge was much bigger than any other she had previously purchased...although she would certainly get more for her money in Royston than London.
But I agree with you, I think the purchase of that particular house was down to IS. I imagine it was way beyond anything he would have been able to afford and no doubt gave his ego a boost - local boy done good living in his luxury house.


eta ........Helen did say ( in her book ? ) that the reason they settled on Royston ( rather than presumably London ) was because they ( for they read IS ) did not want to disrupt the boys life any more than it had been already. ( boys at this time were 18 and 21 ).
There is then another comment by Helen ( newspaper interview ) where she talks about missing London and says that with hindsight it would have made more sense for her and IS to buy themselves a property in London and buy an apartment for the boys in Royston or thereabouts.

 

[Interested Bystander]

So far I cannot see anything but guilt. How can he claim no guilt when:-

Helen and Boris were found in the pit.

There is evidence of sleeping drugs over some months in her hair and he clearly states she would not take medicines or go to her doctor for help with her stress. It is a drug he has been prescribed.

There is proof he had Helen's phone in Broadstairs

He attempted to move money from Helen's account to his (3 attempts)

Off with his head!

 

[MillyM]

Her London home seemed fairly substantial........the cottage was just a holiday home so probably sufficient for short term breaks...and the Gateshead property was an investment property far as I know.

Hartwell Lodge was much bigger than any other she had previously purchased...although she would certainly get more for her money in Royston than London.
But I agree with you, I think the purchase of that particular house was down to IS. I imagine it was way beyond anything he would have been able to afford and no doubt gave his ego a boost - local boy done good living in his luxury house.

I wonder if it was just a coincidence that previous owner of the house worked in IT, or if IS knew of him through his own dabblings in that field and that was how they came by it?

 

[MillyM]

Anyone seen/commented on this?

Joe.........

http://sykic.co.uk/andbeyond/2016/02/01/gosh-not-another-crappy-post/

 

[BatFace]

How interesting...

 

[Cherwell]

Anyone seen/commented on this?

Joe.........

http://sykic.co.uk/andbeyond/2016/02/01/gosh-not-another-crappy-post/

IS's alter ego?

Or do you think Joe and Nick are real?

 

[MillyM]

IS's alter ego?

Or do you think Joe and Nick are real?

I don't know. I really don't. Be interested to see if he's on any sites for fetishes, swingers or dogging as 'Joe'!!

 

[icemaiden65]

IS's alter ego?

Or do you think Joe and Nick are real?

Alter ego I suspect. Have just been browsing through that 'And Beyond blog' and it's very much a 'work in progress'. I have a blog and would never go about things in the haphazard way IS has - apart from one 'post' it has his touch all over it - and should have been kept in draft while he played. You just don't go public with a mess like that, he certainly is no 'IT expert'. There are random letter combinations when it seems he could have been seeing how the layout would look, thoughts about spacing are typed here and there. There could well have been some input from Helen as some of the better writing (what little writing there is) has her touch and perhaps she was quite involved.

But, this is the bit that almost made me weep: http://sykic.co.uk/andbeyond/2016/01/29/wedding-fever/

[h=1]Wedding Fever!
[/h]January 29, 2016 by Ian
It’s all go here at Hartwell Lodge, as young couple Ian and Helen plan their super stylish London nuptials. And Beyond has discovered that the keywords for this uber-glam couple are: chic, elegant and Metropolitan as befits this film-star and his dowdy menopausal woman.

God knows who referred to Helen in that way, possibly her with her self-deprecating sense of humour - but I hated reading it anyhow.

 

[Duchy]

I don't know. I really don't. Be interested to see if he's on any sites for fetishes, swingers or dogging as 'Joe'!!

LOL I'm following that thread too!

 

[Cherwell]

Some it's been copied from other sites, eg
http://www.realsimple.com/food-recipes/cooking-tips-techniques/french-cuisine