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GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #10
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Had to repeat lie
“He said he told his sons that Helen had left a note saying she was going to Broadstairs - which wasn’t true - but once he told the lie he had to repeat the same lie to everyone.
“He said on the morning of April 15, he was handed a phone by either Nick or Joe, and it was Helen, who asked if he could find her phone.
“He said Nick hit him on the side after he said Helen’s brother wanted to call the police.
“He said he was asked to bring the phone to Broadstairs the following day.
“He said Nick said if I wanted to call police I should do so after 3pm that day.”
Reported Helen missing to police
“He said at 3.37pm he reported Helen missing to police.
He said he had tried to log into Helen’s bank account soon after, to see if there were any recent payments made.
“He said he went to Broadstairs on April 16 and drive down with Helen’s phone in his pocket.
“He said he put the phone on charge in the house and turned it on briefly - which is how it must have connected to the router.
“He said Nick joined him on a walk along the cliffs, where Nick took Helen’s phone from him after asking him to drive to Margate.
“He said Nick said they needed Helen a few more days to help them sort out a problem.”
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/incoming/live-helen-bailey-murder-trial-12633390
“He said he told his sons that Helen had left a note saying she was going to Broadstairs - which wasn’t true - but once he told the lie he had to repeat the same lie to everyone.
“He said on the morning of April 15, he was handed a phone by either Nick or Joe, and it was Helen, who asked if he could find her phone.
“He said Nick hit him on the side after he said Helen’s brother wanted to call the police.
“He said he was asked to bring the phone to Broadstairs the following day.
“He said Nick said if I wanted to call police I should do so after 3pm that day.”
Reported Helen missing to police
“He said at 3.37pm he reported Helen missing to police.
He said he had tried to log into Helen’s bank account soon after, to see if there were any recent payments made.
“He said he went to Broadstairs on April 16 and drive down with Helen’s phone in his pocket.
“He said he put the phone on charge in the house and turned it on briefly - which is how it must have connected to the router.
“He said Nick joined him on a walk along the cliffs, where Nick took Helen’s phone from him after asking him to drive to Margate.
“He said Nick said they needed Helen a few more days to help them sort out a problem.”
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/incoming/live-helen-bailey-murder-trial-12633390
It is very strange Colour P. I wouldn't be surprised if IS did some googling beforehand. On an eg company listing website you can check JS's address and then if Helen had given him the postcode (which she must have for him to do that 50 mile drive unannounced) he would have been able to work out the value of her house. It is very crude to even write it.
helen was so so vulnerable - he really took advantage of that.
helen was so so vulnerable - he really took advantage of that.
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Drove to Leatherhead
“Stewart said on April 18 he drove to Leatherhead wanting to speak to Tony Hurley. “He said he didn’t tell Tony about what happened to Helen, because Tony didn’t appear to believe him about wedding plans with Helen.”
Feared for Helen's safety
“He said on April 21 DC Daines and DC Lockwood came to see him.
“He said police had been searching the house and items had been broken.
“He said he didn’t tell the police about Nick and Joe because he feared for Helen’s safety if he did so.
“He said the next contact with Nick and Joe was on April 26. He said Joe told him to open the front gates at the Royston house, before he was hit in the side.
“He said he heard a car by the front door - and Helen had said there was something they wanted in the garage. “He said they asked for the Jeep keys, before leaving him a phone.
“He said the Jeep was then parked over the cesspit cover in the
Stewart said he felt like harming himself
“Stewart said the kidnappers wouldn’t let him speak to Helen until they got what they wanted.
“He said he never did tell anyone what was going on.
He said he felt like harming himself, going to the cliffs in Broadstairs and the railway line in Royston.
“I didn’t tell Gill Currie I had seen Helen walking down a lane with the dog.
“I did refuse a further search of the Royston house.”
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/incoming/live-helen-bailey-murder-trial-12633390
“Stewart said on April 18 he drove to Leatherhead wanting to speak to Tony Hurley. “He said he didn’t tell Tony about what happened to Helen, because Tony didn’t appear to believe him about wedding plans with Helen.”
Feared for Helen's safety
“He said on April 21 DC Daines and DC Lockwood came to see him.
“He said police had been searching the house and items had been broken.
“He said he didn’t tell the police about Nick and Joe because he feared for Helen’s safety if he did so.
“He said the next contact with Nick and Joe was on April 26. He said Joe told him to open the front gates at the Royston house, before he was hit in the side.
“He said he heard a car by the front door - and Helen had said there was something they wanted in the garage. “He said they asked for the Jeep keys, before leaving him a phone.
“He said the Jeep was then parked over the cesspit cover in the
Stewart said he felt like harming himself
“Stewart said the kidnappers wouldn’t let him speak to Helen until they got what they wanted.
“He said he never did tell anyone what was going on.
He said he felt like harming himself, going to the cliffs in Broadstairs and the railway line in Royston.
“I didn’t tell Gill Currie I had seen Helen walking down a lane with the dog.
“I did refuse a further search of the Royston house.”
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/incoming/live-helen-bailey-murder-trial-12633390
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When you actually put the lever arch file into context, it really is ridiculous, isn't it?
Two men looking for a nondescript lever arch file are prepared to injure and kill over it, but not actually describe it or the contents so they might be able to produce it.
GIVE ME THE FILE
Which file?
GIVE IT TO ME
What does it look like?
LAST CHANCE TO GIVE ME THE FILE
What's in it? So I know what I'm looking for?
THAT'S IT. YOU'VE HAD IT.
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Nick threatened sons
“He said Nick told him to go to Broadstairs for a second time as if to appear to look for Helen.
“He said he removed the wifi router from the Broadstairs house because he wanted to use it as a wifi extender at the Royston house.
“He said Nick insisted he went on holiday to Spain.
“He said he was told to go to the bar in the airport - he said Nick said if they didn’t get what they wanted they would require compensation of half a million pounds.
“He said Nick took the mobile phone from him.
“He said Nick then made threats to his sons Jamie and Oliver.”
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/incoming/live-helen-bailey-murder-trial-12633390
“He said Nick told him to go to Broadstairs for a second time as if to appear to look for Helen.
“He said he removed the wifi router from the Broadstairs house because he wanted to use it as a wifi extender at the Royston house.
“He said Nick insisted he went on holiday to Spain.
“He said he was told to go to the bar in the airport - he said Nick said if they didn’t get what they wanted they would require compensation of half a million pounds.
“He said Nick took the mobile phone from him.
“He said Nick then made threats to his sons Jamie and Oliver.”
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/incoming/live-helen-bailey-murder-trial-12633390
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Stewart was charged with Helen's murder
“Stewart said he went on holiday and made out he enjoyed it. He said he came back on June 24, 2016.
“He said he had no means of contacting Nick or Joe, except by contacting Helen’s phone.
“He said he realised he could raise £190,000 towards the ransom of half a million pounds.
“He said police came to arrest him for Helen’s murder on July 11 - and that when he got up he saw the garage door open and thought they had been burgled.
“He said his solicitor told him to say nothing. He said he was then rearrested when Helen’s body was discovered in a cesspit.
“He said he thought police were lying to him that they found her body there. “He said he followed his solicitor’s advice to say nothing during the interview - and that after this interview he was charged with Helen’s murder.”
Solicitors told about Nick and Joe
“Stewart said he was threatened in prison six or seven times - and was assaulted in prison.
“He said he was moved to a different area of the prison but was threatened once more.
“He said he first told his solicitors about Nick and Joe in September 2016 but he was threatened again and withdrew what he told them.
“He said he was handed a phone in prison - and that a man on the phone said Helen should never have been involved, that Joe and Nick had been sorted.
“He said he did not kill Helen - or play any part in disposing of her body in the cesspit.”
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/incoming/live-helen-bailey-murder-trial-12633390
“Stewart said he went on holiday and made out he enjoyed it. He said he came back on June 24, 2016.
“He said he had no means of contacting Nick or Joe, except by contacting Helen’s phone.
“He said he realised he could raise £190,000 towards the ransom of half a million pounds.
“He said police came to arrest him for Helen’s murder on July 11 - and that when he got up he saw the garage door open and thought they had been burgled.
“He said his solicitor told him to say nothing. He said he was then rearrested when Helen’s body was discovered in a cesspit.
“He said he thought police were lying to him that they found her body there. “He said he followed his solicitor’s advice to say nothing during the interview - and that after this interview he was charged with Helen’s murder.”
Solicitors told about Nick and Joe
“Stewart said he was threatened in prison six or seven times - and was assaulted in prison.
“He said he was moved to a different area of the prison but was threatened once more.
“He said he first told his solicitors about Nick and Joe in September 2016 but he was threatened again and withdrew what he told them.
“He said he was handed a phone in prison - and that a man on the phone said Helen should never have been involved, that Joe and Nick had been sorted.
“He said he did not kill Helen - or play any part in disposing of her body in the cesspit.”
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/incoming/live-helen-bailey-murder-trial-12633390
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Helen seen walking dog
“A witness, Marco Humphrey-Lahti, said he saw Helen walking Boris on April 11 between 9.30am and 9.45am. “You may think that what he told you fits in with what you have on your timeline which shows a gap in Helen’s iPad activity.
“You then heard next from Janice Richards, who said she saw Helen when she was at home with her daughter Catherine.
“She said she knew of Helen, and that Helen became a familiar sight walking her dog.
“She said that she and her daughter Catherine had seen Helen on April 11, between 1pm and 2.20pm.
“She said it was ‘unlikely’ that the sighting of Helen could have been in the morning of April 11.”
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/incoming/live-helen-bailey-murder-trial-12633390
“A witness, Marco Humphrey-Lahti, said he saw Helen walking Boris on April 11 between 9.30am and 9.45am. “You may think that what he told you fits in with what you have on your timeline which shows a gap in Helen’s iPad activity.
“You then heard next from Janice Richards, who said she saw Helen when she was at home with her daughter Catherine.
“She said she knew of Helen, and that Helen became a familiar sight walking her dog.
“She said that she and her daughter Catherine had seen Helen on April 11, between 1pm and 2.20pm.
“She said it was ‘unlikely’ that the sighting of Helen could have been in the morning of April 11.”
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/incoming/live-helen-bailey-murder-trial-12633390
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Thanks for the insight into the severe debility IB and I don't doubt that when he was in intensive care in the 90's that was an awful time for him.
I was more wondering when he took the insurance policy out in relation to when he claims he had his symptoms, around 95?
We often have journalists browsing here at this stage, so if there's a curious one .......this would be interesting to know.
ETA: Imagine if, upon conviction, they release a prior conviction for petty fraud committed by IS in the past!
Apologies Cotton. I have only just got back as far as this post. I think he will have been feeling odd/weak for sometime and probably realised there was something wrong. I ignored my problem for 4 years as I persuaded myself it was nothing important, probably post some infection and would get better. I was not a breadwinner and it didn't occur to me to think of insurance for possible future illness. However, it may well be that he was getting strange attacks of weakness after a cold and just maybe he realised it could be something serious in the offing, in which case he could have taken out the insurance at the time he had started suffering for MG. We don't know when he took out this insurance. If we did it would make comment much easier. It is also entirely possible he knew he had a serious problem before taking out the policy. I am sure the Insurance Company will now look into this, unless they are not following the story.
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